I saw some iconic cards from early on, but agree that they're outnumbered. Another problem is that it's sorta cool to reprint Channel, but what's the point, really? It's only usable as a restricted card in Vintage. And while Kokusho, the evening star can be considered iconic in a way, its relevance is small now and there was definitely no need to reprint ALL the legendary dragon spirits.
I definitely saw some cool reprints, and even some that are likely to make a difference, but in my opinion, this looks so far to be by far the weakest Masters product yet.
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Just_Plain_Mr_Mo posted a message on Iconic Masters ignores the first half of MagicPosted in: Magic General -
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jacobk posted a message on Pro Tour Aether Revolt/Dublin - Standard - 2/3-5Good news: After the bannings you can play an aggro deck in standard without shelling out for a rare 2 cmc vehicle!Posted in: Standard Archives
Bad news: Now you get to buy a mythic 2 cmc vehicle...
My only consolation is that I doubt this was a deliberate move by WotC. I mean, if they didn't see the Copy Cat combo coming, this probably caught them by surprise as well.
I'm a little surprised nobody tried jamming the Pummeler combo deck. I thought Invigorated Rampage would give it a little boost, and Liliana is seeing a lot less play lately. -
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jar75 posted a message on Pro Tour Aether Revolt/Dublin - Standard - 2/3-5This may have been the most boring PT I've ever watched.Posted in: Standard Archives -
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rogue_LOVE posted a message on The Modern Price Discussion ThreadOops, ninjad!Posted in: Market Street Café
Quote from Stoogeslap »Hey, what's up w/ Saffi Eriksdotter? Foils are sitting around $68 (dropped down 61% from $175) & non-foils are around $11.00.
An Abzan Company did decently well at a small tournament using her and Renegade Rallier last weekend. Loop her and rallied with a Blood Artist and sac outlet in play for infinite triggers. -
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Raver posted a message on The Modern Price Discussion ThreadSaffi recently saw play as a 1 of in abzan combo decks. Combos with the new renegade rallier and a sac outlet and is just good value overall in those style of decks.Posted in: Market Street Café
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meekrabkabob posted a message on Aether Revolt is insane.I think you're overreacting.Posted in: Magic General -
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EasyLover posted a message on Aether revolt MasterpiecesPlease DONT tell me this is our Christmas-gift ! im grateful, but how can one rejoice to Reprints, which are not affordable & not even T2-legal ?? Im utterly dissapointedPosted in: The Rumor Mill -
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RxPhantom posted a message on Aether revolt MasterpiecesI love that Wizards shows me all the cool cards I'll never have a chance to own. No sour grapes here. No siree.Posted in: The Rumor Mill -
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th3shinigami posted a message on Aether Revolt and REBELSTo make almost this entire post a moot point, the "rebel" card that was spoiled, Quicksmith Rebel only has rebel in the name, not the subtype.Posted in: Market Street Café -
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jeffbcrandall posted a message on Chandra, Torch of DefianceThe trouble with conspiracy was that while it had a lot of initial hype and enjoyment from players who wanted to play it. It never had near the demand of a typical standard set. One possibility is that wizards did their usual initial large print run, stores bought in on however much they felt they might be able to move (still no where near standard set amounts), and wizards/distributors still had left over product from that initial large print run that slowly filtered out as shops who had the demand restocked.Posted in: Market Street Café
The other possibility is yes, there was enough initial demand to run through the initial print run, and they made a second (but as usual smaller print run), but by that time demand had begun to, and did wane, and now there are a ton of unopened boxes running around the internet collecting dust, until it eventually gets old enough to where collectors or drafters decided to start gobbling them up at fairly cheap prices and the prices begin to rise as the supply begins to dip as almost inevitably always happens over time assuming the sets aren't terrible value wise/gimmick wise/etc.
For now though the first conspiracy set is still plenty well available all over the place from what I have seen online, in fairly large quantities. I still see regular sales of the original conspiracy boxes fairly often which is usually a sign of lack of demand and reasonably high stock levels left.
As for the singles values. The fact that the set wasn't opened nearly as much as a standard set (and never will be), was a reason that something like Dack was able to stay as high as he was until he got reprinted and then the price dive bombed accordingly.
In the case of the new Chandra, its in a large 1st set of a new block standard set, with several new planeswalkers, a new good cycle of duals (to finish off an old reasonably popular cycle), as well as several other decent cards in the set garnering attention, and of course last but certainly not least.... The special foil artifacts which are sure to have that fun lottery ticket effect to get people to open them for as we have seen similarly in the past. So supply isn't going to be anywhere near as low as Dack was, or even is now after the reprinting.
If it ends up being a multi-format all star in addition to a potential standard all star, then that's certainly something in the high value camp, but if not, then it dropping to $30 I could easily see happening. Time, as with all such things, will tell. Personally I would be patient if I was looking to pick some up. - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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These are fancier FTV's. It's a cheap way to leverage cards that are expensive on the secondary market while at the same time getting value for their limited game design and making people rip packs. This whole set made me yawn except for Mana Drain.
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Am I the only person who read this and thinks your LGS are cannibalizing each other and not actually growing? They're fighting over the same local players? Local stores opening up isn't growth - if you said you go to GPs in town every year and every year there are more people, that would hold more weight.
I live in a mid-market city. We're growing, but we still pale in size to somewhere like Atlanta. I see the same players all over town - compared to 5 years ago, player turn out and player growth (increasing # of new faces at events) has been on the decline. A sunday standard tournament that has been firing reliably since I started back (AVR) has not fired in 2 of the last 3 weeks. New LGS pop up, but the old ones shut down as the players migrate to the store featuring the best payouts as a promo to get people in.
I am worried about Magic and I am especially worried about where it will be in 2 years. I see us going farther down the Yugioh rabbit hole.
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I like how the hivemind has caught up to what I've been saying since BFZ released. Lazy ******* designers.
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Bad R&D on the game design side is leading to desperate/bad decision on the sales side. Nobody wants bans, but if they're forced because people simply give up on the format...well...it leads to gimmicks like Masterpieces. That and the intrinsic drive of sales to increase sales at all costs.
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If you want foils, that seems like an OK option right now. 7-8 bucks for NM.
This is purely Frontier "demand." Smells like Tiny Leaders, but may take off as there are quite a few tournaments firing on the format.
See also Hangarback Walker, JVP, Anafenza.
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You should really learn to read before you post. The whole PREMISE of this post is about MANA VAULT being reprinted at mega mythic rarity. Jeesh.
I think you're the one lacking social graces. I call a spade a spade, and you can't even be bothered to read my posts before heaping disdain upon them. Look in the mirror there sport before you start spouting off about rude people. I'll take rude over dumb any day.
Also, I am not disputing that historically preordering has been a bad idea. I just think some of you don't get how much of a shift this might be in terms of mythic/rare singles availability. An order of magnitude of depression of singles, and any microscarcities of hot cards resolved in days rather than weeks. Paradigm shifting. Buzzy word, but appropriate I think.
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I agree that dual lands currently have a track record of getting in the $1.50 range in the past few sets. However, those dual lands had zero eternal implications (beyond EDH). This is the first dual land set with eternal implications since KTK and fetches were definitely not under $2 during that entire run. I fully expected even the janky ones to stay above $3. I am no longer sure.
Homelands may have been a bit of a hyperbole, but it's in the right direction. Overprinting is overprinting. Before this set, overprinting meant languishing on the shelves. WOTC has a system in place to prevent too much of this - printing to "demand." This set, overprinting may be due to raw over-opening. WOTC keeps printing because they think it's organic demand but it's really not. Unexplored territory, IMHO.
Anyways, I wish I hadn't even started this thread now. I really don't give a flip what people do.