@stupidinteligence- I don't really focus on having an army of dudes let alone care for Auras (2 for 1's suck hard) monolith seems interesting I wouldn't of thought of it outside voltron style decks/combo
That's too bad, Eland Umbra would be pretty efficient in Doran.
I have to say I like TL, a lot. It, to me, is a stand alone format, and hard to compare to another. Yes, there are simular nuances between it and other formats, but I don't think it's fair to the format to say, "it a lesser, (insert per existing format here)" it was a really nice and inexpensive way to bring my fiancé into magic.I like it, because in frankly in not as monetarily as taxing as must other formats (I'm not sure about modern it never really appealed to me). well that was my two cents thanks for listening.
I hate the idea of proxied cards, maybe if you have the card in the mail, or maybe if you are testing the idea before you buy the card, if you are at you or your friends and they say its cool, the it might be ok. Please don't ever go to your LGS with Proxies it bad form,and rude.
Time Stretch ends games I get two uninterupted turns to do what ever i want, yes please. I say two uninterupted turns because they would have done something about the Time magic if they could have. Two turns and you are playing blue means the game is over or you have put yourself in a winning postion.
It is hands down one of the best lands you can run in EDH. Two life doesn't many anything antill you only have two left. Don't be scared run it, use it , love it.
I can try but I see there is a lot of heated discussion in this thread that I really don’t want to get involved in.
I run Hermit druid in a Damia Deck. I run lots of basic lands and it is by no means a hermit druid combo deck. It is a grave yard manipulation- self mill deck, so he fits the theme but I am not playing BUG Druid. A real life example from my own playing experience went something like this. Turn two buried alive turn three reanimate turn four activate hit something like thirty cards, into living death which gave me an instant win condition.
Now this doesn’t happen often but still his ability to mass dump into the yard (which in EDH is basically a second library) and keep you in basic lands at a Two drop is way over powered. He already got hit with the Ban Hammer on the French list. I feel the reason he hasn’t been hit with in multiplayer EDH is that not many people play Scion hermit. Until you get to big tournaments with prizes, things like Gen Con and other large open events and then this deck rips those formats apart.
Even in situations where he is not optimally built around I feel his power level, CMC and ability to promote crazy early board states warrants his banning and I am a person who love playing with him. I also know the argument of there is enough GY hate running around to stop this but there are enough answers to said hate, and that involves finding them early.
First sorry about the heated conversaion it how DK and I show that we love each other.
I think this is a case of good synergy. Hermit druid can do some really fun and cool thing like allowing you to living death. Hermit Druid in this case is just a soild peice of EDH With this example alone I would have to say he doesn't warrent a ban at this point. Play him enjoy him and have fun.
I don't either, considering you needed me to explain how to stop Kiki+Conscripts with a Doomblade.
Aren't you the clown that want to make EDH a competitive multiplayer FFA? You can't listen to anybody elses opinion how do you plan on making that work? I wish the best of luck man and I mean that with all sincerity, but please leave me the **** alone.
Your reading comprehension isn't showing, because that's not at all what I said. The card was specifically designed so that to be played, it altered the way a deck was built. It doesn't work as designed in EDH.
This isn't the same as "it wasn't designed with EDH in mind," because despite your spelling, you're right, until recently nothing was designed with EDH in mind. Just like Karakas and Worldfire (and very unlike Time Walk or Primeval Titan), though, this card was designed to do something that it doesn't do in EDH.
You were done with this conversation before you started, because you never once made a point beyond "I don't understand." You refuse to admit you're wrong. It's not ok, so for the last time, please stop.
Oh my God your right I completely missed the point it all coming to me know a that in type was good if you ran one and two of has no place in EDH regardless of the fact that it doesn't a single one of the banning criteria. How could I have missed that. Oh, thankyou magic god for showing me that error of my ways (and spelling for that matter). I have no Idea how I have been playing magic for 15 years with out your guidance.
Can we please Ban hermit druid? And not just because of the Combo deck. I run him in a totally no optimized GY manipulation deck and he just breaks the game open. To good for legacy. Ok in EDH ?
Can you give me an example of how he breaks the game with out being built around?
See, then you go lying about the reasons people have given you.
You're done here.
I'm repeating Phil, please stop wasting our time and your own.
I'm done here? Real tough guy aren't ya.
Read the thread when you boil it all down thats all you said is it wasn't designed with EDH in mind...news flash antill recantly no cards were built with EDH in mind. I am so done with this conversation I have made my point, and you refuse to admit your wrong, and thats ok.
That's a waste of time, because it's an outright lie. The fact is there are reasons for Gifts to be banned and you refuse to acknowledge them.
Then you extend this olive branch of "if you feel otherwise..." but really it's an olive branch that's on fire because you have no intention of listening to the other side.
If someone could bring up a good reason other than it works differently in standard I would be happy to listen.
Could you seriously stop posting in this thread. I just read 5 pages of you being wrong. I don't want to read another 5.
You make good points, they're just not in the right direction.
I've made the same mistake with balance.
It's a list cause, give it up.
What am I missing the fact is there is no reason for gifts to be banned. If you feeel other wise lets talk it out. Telling me not to post some where is rediculous, and after that telling me I am wrong (which is fine I got no issue with that it has been known to happen), but offering no reason why you think so. Kind of a waste of everyones time don't you think.
@Sinfire you said no one in there right mind would cast Gifts if Tormod's Crypt was out, and you are absolutely right about that.
Ah yes, the dies to removal argument. Well played. And you know, now that you're forced to play blue to react to Gifts, you can play your own copy as well.
It's been said, people just chose to ignore it because it weakened their defense of unbanning it.
First the fact that it is blue is a terrible argument.
Second, I wasn't saying that I was bad because you can answer it I was saying that there were many way and times you can interact with it.
Last blue is not the only color with graveyard hate and spot control, both of which interact with Gifts.
Question if a card was printed in a commander percon and it say seacrh you deck for four cards an oppent choose two of then, put those cards into your hand and the others into your graveyard. And let say this card was an instant and four mana. Why would this card need to be banned?
First sorry about the heated conversaion it how DK and I show that we love each other.
I think this is a case of good synergy. Hermit druid can do some really fun and cool thing like allowing you to living death. Hermit Druid in this case is just a soild peice of EDH With this example alone I would have to say he doesn't warrent a ban at this point. Play him enjoy him and have fun.
Aren't you the clown that want to make EDH a competitive multiplayer FFA? You can't listen to anybody elses opinion how do you plan on making that work? I wish the best of luck man and I mean that with all sincerity, but please leave me the **** alone.
This is also flaming/trolling. -Weebo
Oh my God your right I completely missed the point it all coming to me know a that in type was good if you ran one and two of has no place in EDH regardless of the fact that it doesn't a single one of the banning criteria. How could I have missed that. Oh, thankyou magic god for showing me that error of my ways (and spelling for that matter). I have no Idea how I have been playing magic for 15 years with out your guidance.
This is also trolling. -Weebo
Can you give me an example of how he breaks the game with out being built around?
I'm done here? Real tough guy aren't ya.
Read the thread when you boil it all down thats all you said is it wasn't designed with EDH in mind...news flash antill recantly no cards were built with EDH in mind. I am so done with this conversation I have made my point, and you refuse to admit your wrong, and thats ok.
Infraction for flaming/trolling. -Weebo
If someone could bring up a good reason other than it works differently in standard I would be happy to listen.
What am I missing the fact is there is no reason for gifts to be banned. If you feeel other wise lets talk it out. Telling me not to post some where is rediculous, and after that telling me I am wrong (which is fine I got no issue with that it has been known to happen), but offering no reason why you think so. Kind of a waste of everyones time don't you think.
@Sinfire you said no one in there right mind would cast Gifts if Tormod's Crypt was out, and you are absolutely right about that.
First the fact that it is blue is a terrible argument.
Second, I wasn't saying that I was bad because you can answer it I was saying that there were many way and times you can interact with it.
Last blue is not the only color with graveyard hate and spot control, both of which interact with Gifts.
Question if a card was printed in a commander percon and it say seacrh you deck for four cards an oppent choose two of then, put those cards into your hand and the others into your graveyard. And let say this card was an instant and four mana. Why would this card need to be banned?