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Ohhh, thanks! I didn't realize that.
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Definition of degenerative: characterized by progressive, often irreversible deterioration
Here are some more definitions that fit the description of the style of play of pauper control.
The game starts with three or four slow turns on their end of playing dork lands to gain life and playing removal on anything that hits the board. Then they play counters and creatures with discard effects to lock you out of the board and then follow up with fat creatures like gurmag angler along with flashback removal to wreck you on card advantage.
Turns out you really have no clue what you are talking about. My deck is not a combo deck, it is an alternative more aggro based burn deck. Sometimes a combo finish works but is not how I usually win. I mentioned it because I find it fun to fling big creatures out of nowhere as I don't often anticipate the move myself, I'll make it a point to not point out the odd synergy that some cards in my deck have the next time I ask for help. Considering this style of B/UB is 60-70% of the decks on MTGO this is quite "un-fun" and before you decide to try and complain some more about my "Combo deck" this was an issue two years ago when I first bought MTGO and bought a landfall pauper deck. I could not beat the deck with an aggro based deck that benefits from land triggers and in fact is the reason I stopped playing MTGO the first time.
Definition of degenerative: characterized by progressive, often irreversible deterioration
The game starts with three or four slow turns on their end of playing dork lands to gain life and playing removal on anything that hits the board. Then they play counters and creatures with discard effects to lock you out of the board and then follow up with fat creatures like gurmag angler along with flashback removal to wreck you on card advantage.
Turns out you really have no clue what you are talking about. My deck is not a combo deck, it is an alternative more aggro based burn deck. Sometimes a combo finish works but is not how I usually win. I mentioned it because I find it fun to fling big creatures out of nowhere as I don't often anticipate the move myself, I'll make it a point to not point out the odd synergy that some cards in my deck have the next time I ask for help. Considering this style of B/UB is 60-70% of the decks on MTGO this is quite "un-fun" and before you decide to try and complain some more about my "Combo deck" this was an issue two years ago when I first bought MTGO and bought a landfall pauper deck. I could not beat the deck with an aggro based deck that benefits from land triggers and in fact is the reason I stopped playing MTGO the first time.
This feels really uncalled for and provides nothing to the conversation. You could have said that in an educated way that actually disputes his claim or to argue against him. I scrolled back and I have no idea where this hostility comes from.
On a different note what are the odds that wizards does the second print run jam with mm2017? I have heard a lot of speculation on a large print run but also heard people say their LGS' are being limited on orders.
This makes me wonder if they(being wizards) are going to hold up sealed product for a second wave like in eternal masters.
Considering I don't think it sees play anywhere in modern and would be completely dead in sealed I would say not interested.
Considering how long whocansay has been on the forum I doubt that he would pull something like that out of nowhere. I understand everyone's diehard skepticism when it's a user who has no history on the site but I really doubt people who have been in the thread have any reason to try and ruin other peoples days (although it wouldn't surprise me).
Looking at what he said it is in your best interest to sell your fetches if you can take what he says with any sort of credibility (which I do, its a personal preference though). It's really reverse speculating, if you sell them now without seeing evidence and they don't get reprinted I HIGHLY doubt they will go up because besides the half-joking comments about fetches being in MM3 nobody (or very few people) would have been waiting to buy fetches until after the MM3 release. If he provides evidence, that most likely means that the evidence is out there for other people to see and that panic selling will start immediately. Considering the recent comments about fetches not being in standard it really would not surprise me to see them in the set. I honestly see too much downside if they get reprinted to the upside if they don't get reprinted. If you are actively playing the fetches than keep them for sure because in my opinion you always put your decks and cards that you are actively playing with at the highest priority. However if you are holding them for future deckbuilding or they are in a deck you don't use I would sell them off and buy them back after MM3. Worst case scenario you lose a bit on selling fees and shipping. Best case scenario you get about $30-$40 per fetch.
22 Mountain
2 Teetering Peeks
Creatures:
4 Goblin Arsonist
4 Skirk Prospector
4 heartlash cinder
3 Skinbrand goblin
2 Goblin Matron
2 Mudbutton torchrunner
2 Spikeshot goblin
4 titan's strength
3 Falter
4 Fling
1 Font of Ire
4 Traitorous blood
2 Fireblast
Like I mentioned this is just all free stuff. I was playing it to get to used to MTGO. Basically I run out chip damage with small goblins, then with a skirk prospector out I traitous blood your biggest creature and attack for all then fling it in your face. The other option is litter the board, heartlash cinder, falter, attack, fling. Font of Ire, spikeshot goblin, and skinbrand goblin are all kind of filler spots. I would be open to another color if it could help me get some card advantage going.
I will try and retyped this with my train of thought now derailed.
I do not disagree that snapcaster is a powerful card, however just because he is powerful does not necessarily mean he should have a high price. Essentially modern has seen a decrease in blue decks over the past few months due to the increase in super fast decks such as zoo, shadow, dredge, and infect. Blue is primarily a control/combo color and snapcaster definitely has a place in these decks. In the past snapcaster had a very high price due to the popular decks that were in the format such as twin and UW delver which both saw bans that essentially killed the decks. The older modern also saw a lot more control variants including simic, American, and grixis. Grixis is really the only notable control deck in the format right now with American being much less popular than it was and simic being almost non-existent. Snapcaster still sees play in almost every single blue deck in modern, it's just that blue decks are not nearly as powerful in the format as they were in the year or so coming off of his time in standard. Most blue decks are fringe with a few being tier 1/2 and even in some of those he doesn't see consistent play (hit or miss in scapeshift(combo), not in merfolk(aggro)). He can be compared to cryptic command, which is arguably the best and most versatile spell for a control deck in modern. Cryptic has been creeping down over the past couple of months, not because it isn't good, but because control isn't the powerful type it has been in the past. Planeswalkers are also very powerful cards, but really none of them see too much play in modern because they can't be protected very well in the format. This does not mean they are not powerful, it just means they are not good in the format. I really don't thin can say he is underpriced, his price is determined by demand which mostly comes from modern. The statement that he underpriced gives the impression that there is an implication of a standard price for powerful cards which isn't the case. It also feels like saying that his price is somehow not at or near the equilibrium of supply and demand. If you view his price long-term and you feel that control will come back, or at least start seeing tier 1 decks again then I think that someone could say in their opinion he is underpriced but context is important. I can see him ending up hovering around 30-40 like bob. Both are the most played cards in their colors and they both are staples in certain archetypes (Bob-BGx, Snap-Ux control).
I have been meaning to post for awhile now but have been busy. I got to play an infect deck a couple of times last week, and considering they used to be my worst matchup I really enjoyed it. I got to test the updated deck to it's full extent by actually playing faster than infect(!) and I also got to try out the rampager, which I also really liked. However I lost my third game by sputtering out, a lot of cards are great enablers but completely dead in the yard, as I often go through 20ish cards and hit one or two 2/1 creatures to bring back with a bunch of lands/red enablers that do nothing. Faithless looting does have flashback but with our new style of deck I feel that the three mana really is too much for the pace we are trying to play. With no removal and trying to flashback on turn three feels desperate. I kind of want to try the old deck style with a slower approach but update it with amalgam and maybe neonates. I also would like to try and put some dredge cards back in to get full value out of my graveyard as well as make my deck more resilient to grafdiggers cage/relic.