MTG Salvation

So I used to be one of the people who wanted all the expensive to be reprinted into an affordable price range. I don't remember where on this thread I read it but after a couple of pages of catching up I kind of got a new idea. I see how reprinting massively could cripple the game. If they reprint beyond the threshold of demand it could hurt the game. Once the put cards out there, they can't take them out of circulation. Being conservative on the print run works to everyone's benefit. I don't really understand how to communicate what I'm feeling but I now understand why being careful reprinting staple cards.

I don't believe there is anything preventing you from doing so. During your upkeep you CAST the spell from exile, at this time you can pay the buyback. The spell then goes on the stacck and resolves as normal. The rebound doesn't effect the buyback.

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I would say it wasn't discovered that quickly, we drafted the set for a month or 2 before it was discovered to be useful

Yeah, It wasn't discovered quickly at all, I played a little bit during that era and I remember it being a worthless card forever and then jumping finally, only one person that I played with at the time had any number of them.

Just got my Mayael done custom art! I would love the name "Mayael, Mother of Dragons" I really want to make a dragon tribal variant.

I can easily see that you put aton of effort into this, and I could see this being the next comic book/book that comes with a promo card that is at my LGS. Good job!!

Cards like murder and deadbore to keep your opponents board clear and maybe rakdos cackler and other lower mana cards with unleash to keep your opponent on the defense. Also you may want to put rakdos keyrune to help get your more mana and Rakdos guildgate for a low cost varity. Also try bonfire of the damned, killing wave, and mutilate. I am speaking as if you are playing a standard deck, if you aren't playing a standard deck try sisters of the flame and rakdos signet for mana and terror maybe some burn for varity.

I so see your combo, the havoc festival and then wound reflection for a 1 turn win, or if that isn't enough get out a cryptborn horror with trample and power and toughness equal to your opponents life total. If you take out the fortune theif, wound reflection, and lightning Greaves your deck would be standard, when I get a chance I will try and work out a decklist, both standard, and nonstandard for you.

Wow, do those borders look like a**

everyone just CALM DOWN and give it a few more weeks, the set just came out a little over a week ago.
if you really want the cards and have the money, sure go get what you need or whatever. its not that big a deal if you get them too soon.
but if you don't need anything, and are just looking to round out your modern collection, i still think you need to wait a little longer.

Interesting trend for Scalding Tarn. Foils continue to slowly fall, but standard copies are slowly rising. This may be indicative of other high demand cards and an effect of there being a foil in every single pack. This must mean that, at least while the packs are in circulation and being opened, buying foils right now is a pretty good idea. In addition to my Tarns, I picked up two Blood Moons as well. It's really hard to pass up Foil Moons for $35...

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I apologize in advance for my ignorance of the format... or if it's even Modern that's affecting this... but why Seismic Assault?

Jank brew from MTG Goldfish. Draw cards, burn with lands. It was pretty sweet to watch.

SWWAANNSSS: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-77-46-tix-42-land-swan-hunt-modern

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Good writeup on Reddit about expected price trends, for those asking.

#1, never believe anything you read on Reddit. In fact, better to just never visit that ridiculous site in the first place.
#2, They're basing their assumptions on MM15's trends. However, MM17 has a much greater density of sought-after staples than MM15. While in Standard sets this usually means it spreads the costs around and Mythics and Rares stay cheaper, in limited print runs sets this means the set gets opened sooner. It also means people who hadn't bought into Modern yet will view this as their opportunity to do so.

MM13's prices began climbing 2 weeks after release.
MM15's prices began climbing 6-8 weeks after release, and in some cases later.
MM17 could well be somewhere in the middle, and I continue to think 3-4 weeks out is the sweet spot this time around.

Regarding fetches in particular, remember that not only do lands most often get gobbled up in full playsets, but they actually often get gobbled up in full playsets of the full cycle. Expect people to be buying 20 of these, not just 1 or 4. That shrinks supply much more than many people are giving it credit for.

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It can piss you off all you want, but I definitely value his opinion more than yours, considering he plays the deck nearly exclusively, works with WOTC, and is their statistics man.

They are also in position to influence the player base's thinking.

Those same people said Jund was dead without DRS, yet it lives, they said Jund was dead without BBE, yet it lives.

People get use to playing with recent additions to decks and tend to forget they were decks prior to those recent editions, and top level decks.

If you have a Modern scene near you, play Affinity without Mox Opals for one tournament. I think you may be surprised how well it works without them. Or dont, let others dictate how you think. Its up to you.

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Tarns dipping below 40 on tcg. Think they'll go below 30 after release?

And holy crap, foils are already listed at $80.

Being wrong never felt so good

Full spoilers are out now. Value is not guaranteed in the least. There are a lot of crap/low money rares. Average value is definitely higher than the previous MM set but getting back current box price in card value is still quite unlikely.

All we need now is a $3.99 MSRP with 36 packs/box and unlimited print run

Make it happen, Wizards

Moon and Voice..do I need another box and or job?

I think the optimism around this set making modern affordable and creating a paradise for the format isn't going to work out in the long run.

I think this game will die without chase cards. A lot of people open packs in hopes of winning the lottery. So, while it may allow more people access to tournies, you are going to completely alienate collectors and investors and whether you want to believe it or not, those people are just as important as tourney players.

Im fine with trying to keep card prices around 50 to 60. People who want everything reprinted to the point where everything costs a dollar?

I think those ideals will kill the game long before speculators or investors. I hope they don't print into oblivion.

What is the incentive for LGSs to crack packs for singles? Its not worth anybodys time to crack 100 booster boxes to sell 1 to 5 dollar cards.