I've got the link to the 2012 MP Power Rankings in my sig (and am currently 2/3rds of the way through the 2013 ones) - that'll be a good starting point for you.
The analysis on CubeTutor shows that the cube isn't balanced for a start - that's what I'd be doing first.
My MP Cube is 360 cards - 45 of each colour, 45 colourless, 35 land, 55 gold.
For you, that means start chopping from gold and green in particular, and start adding land.
Yeah, i need to balance out the colors and your cube is going to be a great resource thank you!!!
I already have all of the dual lands and fetches and so on in my 720 powered and I don't plan to get a new set for this cube. I'm going to use the less powerful versions of this cards. I figure if all of the color fixing lands are slower then it will still be balanced, just slower.
yeah but that is not the same as average cube stats from eidolon232
thanks for the link though.
I also just got all of the images changed over to the C13 images to make the visual spoiler easier to view and removed some cards that where added by mistake with the bulk upload.
I have been wanting to start a new cube for a long time.
I figure that by using the leftover cards from the 2013 commander packs it maybe a good start for a 360 multi-player cube.
If you where going to do something like this what would your auto-include cards be? (remember this is the leftovers so all of the auto include new cards would be removed)
What cards that are not in the commander 2013 set do you think are must get cards to make an idea like this work?
I think having this attitude about it only fragments the community. I think it leads to each side ignoring the other side. By that I mean, if someone has a cube with multiples you might be more inclined to disregard all the data they have for their "custom format" environment in the same way a lot of what happens in constructed is ignored in cube (because the formats are so different).
I think this kind of thing can be seen in many hobbies.
For example, if I collected model airplanes I may have no interest in model helicopters
or if I like Nascar I may hate formula 1
this does not make one side or the other wrong, it just makes them different.
If I was a baseball fan I wouldn't care less about your football stats.
It is the same way with cube, I play singleton cube... I dont care about information about multiple copy cubes and would not take the time to read posts on their experiences.
I think the same way about Pauper cube... to me it is an awful format. I do not enjoy drafting it or playing it. Does that make their idea of a cube wrong? NO... does it make my skin crawl... YES.
Singleton advocates: Would you be interested in [designing/playing with/acknowledging] a "cube" where there were two copies of every card included?
What I'm envisioning is a 180 card cube with two copies of every card, yielding a cube that is actually 360 cards, and draft-able by 8 people with three 15-card packs.
Why or why not?
I would not mind playing a group of cards designed like this. It sounds like it would be fun.
I would never design a group of cards like this because it goes against my personal definition of what the cube format is.
I think we almost need to come up with a new name for this so cube builders dont get offended
I mentioned EDH before... If I came up to my local EDH play group and just decided to build a EDH deck with 50 cards, but then used 2 of each to make 100 cards they would laugh me out of the room and say "That might sound fun for you, but you need to find a different group to play with if you think your going to use that deck."
I hear a lot of people complain about Jace's art, but i think it is good.
I can't see it being removed any time soon.
Yeah, i need to balance out the colors and your cube is going to be a great resource thank you!!!
I already have all of the dual lands and fetches and so on in my 720 powered and I don't plan to get a new set for this cube. I'm going to use the less powerful versions of this cards. I figure if all of the color fixing lands are slower then it will still be balanced, just slower.
thanks eidolon232 your the man!
i got you
well... it is not a cube yet, it really needs some major work.
I just thought i would start with the leftovers as a base.
yeah
thanks for the link though.
I also just got all of the images changed over to the C13 images to make the visual spoiler easier to view and removed some cards that where added by mistake with the bulk upload.
i would have to agree.
eidolon232 or anyone else, where do we find the average 360 cube stats?
where do we start?
http://www.cubetutor.com/visualspoiler/5233
I have not had a chance to remove all of the multiple cards, mistakes and the cards I have already used from the commander set yet.
you may want to start that project now
I figure that by using the leftover cards from the 2013 commander packs it maybe a good start for a 360 multi-player cube.
If you where going to do something like this what would your auto-include cards be? (remember this is the leftovers so all of the auto include new cards would be removed)
What cards that are not in the commander 2013 set do you think are must get cards to make an idea like this work?
What cards do you cut right off the bat?
is it even worth it?
I think this kind of thing can be seen in many hobbies.
For example, if I collected model airplanes I may have no interest in model helicopters
or if I like Nascar I may hate formula 1
this does not make one side or the other wrong, it just makes them different.
If I was a baseball fan I wouldn't care less about your football stats.
It is the same way with cube, I play singleton cube... I dont care about information about multiple copy cubes and would not take the time to read posts on their experiences.
I think the same way about Pauper cube... to me it is an awful format. I do not enjoy drafting it or playing it. Does that make their idea of a cube wrong? NO... does it make my skin crawl... YES.
I would not mind playing a group of cards designed like this. It sounds like it would be fun.
I would never design a group of cards like this because it goes against my personal definition of what the cube format is.
I think we almost need to come up with a new name for this so cube builders dont get offended
I mentioned EDH before... If I came up to my local EDH play group and just decided to build a EDH deck with 50 cards, but then used 2 of each to make 100 cards they would laugh me out of the room and say "That might sound fun for you, but you need to find a different group to play with if you think your going to use that deck."