Eldritch Rites all the way. Consuming contract is okay if it is cheap (like max. 2 mana), you can just bounce it after two choices. Other designs are not that interesting and double down and mummies are just silly and unplayable and I don't find them any fun Necromancer is too powerful to be low costed, this would cost like 6 mana. On turn six in a discard deck your opponent shouldn't have a hand full of cards. On the other hand Wheel of Fortune effects can work well with it.
The fun in a BUG discard EDH with Necromancy and Windfall effects is just tooo good.
I voted for Eldritch Rites, not any of the cards that are actually good, but I find Eldritch Rites the most interesting.
However it has many problems, it's very limited, the sac has to be a nontoken, and a creature, you can only cast black instant or sorceries and you still need to pay the mana cost after that, I just don't see why it either couldn't be sac creature, or better any instant or sorcery.
Would've made it more fun to me, but I suppose you can't have everything.
I like the point made earlier about it.
Its an Enchantment that relies on Creatures that allows you to cast Instants/Sorceries from your graveyard.
And still: Let's say the cost it cheap and it cost's 2B.
Why would you play it over Geth's Grimoire?
Is there a format where I wan't 2/2 zombies more than new cards? Especially when im playing discard (which is nigh impractical in EDH and disliked in Casual). And if im playing competitive discard in T2/Modern/Legacy I won't use such a janky card that possibly does little to nothing?
Don't understand why so many people like that card when Geth's Grimoire is allready stronger. And nope this card won't cost B
Also why not both? Benefiting from discard shouldn't be a "one of" in a deck. I can also think of plenty of times I'd rather have a 2/2 on the board than a card in hand (either for chump blocking, sacrifice outlets, or for combos with cards like Teysa).
It has plausibility, it is a really busy enchant, but I don't think it should be ruled out so easily.
I don't really like Eldritch Rites much, I see its plausibility, but I feel like a large portion of people voting for it aren't realizing it won't be in the same Standard season as Gravecrawler.
Cream of the Crop. The best of the best. The essence of thousands of submissions. Erm what?
1. Consuming Contract
Sign in Blood and Murder are not enough to risk losing in three turns and help only little to win the game. Without the each mdoe once & you lose it coud have been a "best of black" effect (Sign in Blood OR Murder OR Dark Ritual for 5BB maybe? Good Idea but bland execution.
2. Double Down
Some synergy with milling, but even with low casting cost it would be quite much work for little gain. Nothing special.
3. Blood in the Watering Can
Repeatable Creature Recursion! Oversold Cemetery that needs a little work for your value. Phyrexian Arena, City of Brass and your enemy will enable this quite easily.
Power scaling with the creatures you use. Playable in EDH, Modern and T2. One of the two cards I would really like to see.
4. Mass Mummification
That it's symetric just kills this card. Could have been a nice Lich-Variant. Like this it's just a gimmick card that needs a lot of deck-space so only you take advantage of it. Absolutely don't like it in the current form.
5. Soulfeaster's Rising Necrotic Ooze meets Rest in Peace? Sadly it's doing both parts far worse.
Most of the time I probably would prefer Dark Impostor for a similar effect. At least it feels interesting while beeing wonky.
6. Revenge of Necromancy
Geth's Grimoire only uses the best mode of this card and really isn't that great. You hardly use discard all that often and when Geth's Grimoire would be the better choice to draw more discard. Unless it costs B or 1B it would be outclassed by an uncommon artifact.
Flashback for black instant or sorcery spells is awesome even if you have to jump through some hoops. Reassembling Skeleton et al. fit into many black decks anyway. Who wouldn't like some spell recursion?
6. Demonic Bargain
One of the worst YMTC card designs I have seen so far. XB Draw a card each upkeep for X turns. Wouldn't be all too exiting. Giving your opponent a crazy token for playing a bad card is a lose-lose situation. Who could read this card and think "oh that sounds nice and balanced" ?
For me only two cards are really interesting: Blood in the Watering Can vs. Eldritch Rites
Would you like creature recursion or flashback for black instants & sorceries?
Revenge of Necomancy (Ugh I do not like that name) may be unplayable in Standard, but that doesn't mean its not an interesting card. Discard is always a tool people use, having a bonus tacked onto each discard based on your opponent's choice is nice. Not to mention how well it plays with Windfall effects.
All those people who wanted Necropotence reprinted or Black Enchant Destruction are disappointed, just as they should be.
While I'm not a fan of a chunk of these designs, the others are at least unique. Revenge of Necromancy (albeit I don't like the name) would be a really fun one for EDH.
Don't know if this has been addressed but the first sets name is the same as the last name of a crime boss in a soap opera.
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While I don't care about this even in the slightest, this has got to suck for all the people who booked flights and hotel and requested time off.
My condolences.
Its three months out, if they can't get their refund for their hotel/flight and their time off back, there's a problem elsewhere.
While its disappointing to say the least, you can't directly blame Wizards for "wasted money/time off". At least they gave 3 months notice.
Wait for the announcement of where the new location is and simply shift your reservations. If anything this might SAVE some money, because hotels in Indy for Gencon are stupid expensive.
First, is it absolutely confirmed that slivers shall return in Magic 2014? Second, if that is true, why do these new slivers not appear even remotely similar in physical appearance to the slivers of previous sets?
Considering all they were in previous sets were artificial living metal creatures basically that rapidly evolve, anything is possible with how they appear.
Hey guys, I know this is shocking, but nowhere in the original post does it even mention Legacy.
So can you all get off your high horses (on both sides) and end the argument at hand? We're talking Modern and Vintage banlists here. Take your bickering to the subforums.
The fun in a BUG discard EDH with Necromancy and Windfall effects is just tooo good.
I like the point made earlier about it.
Its an Enchantment that relies on Creatures that allows you to cast Instants/Sorceries from your graveyard.
Nath of the Gilt-Leaf is impractical? Crosis, the Purger, Cao Cao, Lord of Wei, Myojin of Night's Reach, Nicol Bolas are all fun legendaries involving discard.
Also why not both? Benefiting from discard shouldn't be a "one of" in a deck. I can also think of plenty of times I'd rather have a 2/2 on the board than a card in hand (either for chump blocking, sacrifice outlets, or for combos with cards like Teysa).
It has plausibility, it is a really busy enchant, but I don't think it should be ruled out so easily.
I don't really like Eldritch Rites much, I see its plausibility, but I feel like a large portion of people voting for it aren't realizing it won't be in the same Standard season as Gravecrawler.
Revenge of Necomancy (Ugh I do not like that name) may be unplayable in Standard, but that doesn't mean its not an interesting card. Discard is always a tool people use, having a bonus tacked onto each discard based on your opponent's choice is nice. Not to mention how well it plays with Windfall effects.
While I'm not a fan of a chunk of these designs, the others are at least unique. Revenge of Necromancy (albeit I don't like the name) would be a really fun one for EDH.
That's kind of irrelevant lol
Its three months out, if they can't get their refund for their hotel/flight and their time off back, there's a problem elsewhere.
While its disappointing to say the least, you can't directly blame Wizards for "wasted money/time off". At least they gave 3 months notice.
Wait for the announcement of where the new location is and simply shift your reservations. If anything this might SAVE some money, because hotels in Indy for Gencon are stupid expensive.
Was about to say this =3
Considering all they were in previous sets were artificial living metal creatures basically that rapidly evolve, anything is possible with how they appear.
I'll miss the "global" slivers though.
And by that I mean, they can always make a new one.
Yea.. shelling out $200 for some Standard decks is overkill for me, $1500 for a Legacy is way too much.
So can you all get off your high horses (on both sides) and end the argument at hand? We're talking Modern and Vintage banlists here. Take your bickering to the subforums.