Our strategy is more of a play cheap mill spells that #1 leave you enough mana to control the board #2 keep your hand full (Ponder, Augur, Thought Scour) and most importantly are recurrable with Snapcaster Mage so by the time you play Jace or a big Increasing Confusion you will mill them out in 2-3 turns
This. Now that I've thought about it, Augur is indeed needed. I'd run something like this.
Nice. I have been thinking of doing a blue mill once M13 comes out. While yes you said you are avoiding rotating cards, I just think avoiding ponder is a big no no, and to a certain extent, Vapor Snag and Ratchet bomb. Until then, I wouldn't use Auger of Bolas.
I'm not particularly experienced with MBC but to me it looks like you don't have enough control there, also no form of card advantage in control = bad. Your main way through the early game is with one for one answers, how do you avoid running out of cards?
Lily 3 is potentially an answer to this question, another one from M13 would be sign in blood.
Correct. All MBC post M13 should have Sign and Mutilate.. and Lily 3.0 to a certain extent. Also BSZ.
I used in my Metalcraft mono red deck with burn, some Iron Myrs, Wellsprings, Archwing Dragon, Slagstorms etc. One thing I found out is it's only good in paper but so slow in real life.
Kraken Hatchling, A 0/4 1cc creature that does NOT have defender. I honestly think this card could be a solid SB card for Mono U or U/x control decks, heck it might even be MB for those that run equipment, especially now in a format full of creature decks. Thoughts?
Yeah but if you got for 23 swamp + 1 cavern of souls. If you ever in a case when you need to have a 4th black for the obliterator, just name horror for the CoS.
That could work.. Maybe 2 caverns. problem is GP is only 2 days away and im a bit short on cash. we'll see. Thanks for the tip!
Oh, i didn't saw you removed blood artist. My bad.
Deck look great otherwise.
If I was playing it, i would probably drop it to 23 land and add a Go for the Throat.
Or if you really want to be at 24 land, I would probably remove 2 swamp for a cavern of souls and an Haunted Fengraf
But that's just me.
The very first version actually has 21 Swamps and 2 Buried Ruin. But during testing, colorless lands just wreck this deck. There were alot of times I have a messenger or Obliterator (even verdict) in my hand but cant cast them, it's unbearable i tell ya!
Now for the 23 or 24 land dilemma.. 23 actually works fine.. but now I have 7 4cc drops. It made me up the land count due to the fear of not hitting 4 lands on turn 4 or 5 consistently. I'll test it the deck out more later.. I'll post my findings.
As soon as Snag cycles out, Delver becomes infinitely weaker as a tempo aggro deck, the titans leave, and all that's left is the shattered remnants of Magic the Gathering. Which means people will be back to building decks around 3, 4, and 5 drops.
Zombies would still be present even after Scars and M13 rotates, also humans.. I'm actually already thinking of a mono black aggro deck right now.
Well I removed Blood Artist from the deck now as I went to a more Aggro Midrange route with the deck. Killing Wave and BSZ does NOT have the same function in any kind of deck. BSZ is a sweeper and Killing Wave is not.
If I were to play this deck I would sb the phantasms so that my opponent's removal is totally blank, then board them in g2 after he/she ships it to the sb for other stuff. I definitely wouldn't MB 3 Sands, since it's X cost makes doubles insanely redundant. Mindcrusher is sweet, though. It'd probably be the only critter I'd run, and I'd definitely run 4 Devastation Tide.
Nice tip. Yeah i think 2 Sands is the right number. Also, spot on on the Mindcrusher. I've very much liked him the first time I saw him and I think this is the deck for him
23 Swamps
1 Buried Ruin
Creatures – 9
3 Ravenous Rats
3 Vampire Nighthawks
3 Solemn Simulacrum
Planeswalkers – 2
2 Sorin Markov
Others – 24
4 Mutilate
3 Duress
3 Pristine Talisman
3 Lashwrithe
1 Batterskull
3 Sign in Blood
2 Go for the Throat
2 Sorin’s Vengeance
1 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Doomblade
1 Tribute to Hunger
2 Sever the Bloodline
2 Doomblade
2 Memoricide
2 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Curse of Death’s Hold
4 Despise
1 Massacre Wurm
This. Now that I've thought about it, Augur is indeed needed. I'd run something like this.
20 Island
2 Hunted Fengraf
Creatures – 10
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Augur of Bolas
2 Fog Bank
2 Jace, Memory Adept
Spells – 26
4 Ponder
4 Thought Scour
4 Mind Sculpt
4 Devastating Tide
4 Vapor Snag
2 Increasing Confusion
2 Tormod’s Crypt
2 Negate / Mana Leak
Correct. All MBC post M13 should have Sign and Mutilate.. and Lily 3.0 to a certain extent. Also BSZ.
That could work.. Maybe 2 caverns. problem is GP is only 2 days away and im a bit short on cash. we'll see. Thanks for the tip!
The very first version actually has 21 Swamps and 2 Buried Ruin. But during testing, colorless lands just wreck this deck. There were alot of times I have a messenger or Obliterator (even verdict) in my hand but cant cast them, it's unbearable i tell ya!
Now for the 23 or 24 land dilemma.. 23 actually works fine.. but now I have 7 4cc drops. It made me up the land count due to the fear of not hitting 4 lands on turn 4 or 5 consistently. I'll test it the deck out more later.. I'll post my findings.
Zombies would still be present even after Scars and M13 rotates, also humans.. I'm actually already thinking of a mono black aggro deck right now.
Well I removed Blood Artist from the deck now as I went to a more Aggro Midrange route with the deck. Killing Wave and BSZ does NOT have the same function in any kind of deck. BSZ is a sweeper and Killing Wave is not.
Nice tip. Yeah i think 2 Sands is the right number. Also, spot on on the Mindcrusher. I've very much liked him the first time I saw him and I think this is the deck for him
Btw, nice sig man. haha!
24 Swamp
CREATURES – 20
4 Gravecrawler
4 Diregraf Ghoul
4 Highborn Ghoul
4 Geralf’s Messenger
4 Phyrexian Obliterator
3 Lashwrithe
2 Mortarpod
SPELLS – 11
3 Tragic Slip
3 Distress
1 Go for the Throat
2 Geth’s Verdict
2 Essence Harvest
2 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Sever the Bloodline
4 Appetite for Brains
1 Distress
1 Tragic Slip
2 Black Sun’s Zenith
3 - ???
Will test the deck even further. Hopefully becomes ready before Saturday for GP Manila.