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  • posted a message on [UMA] - Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper Boosters
    So this is a bit of a blunt approach, but let me put it like this: My first deck was in 1995 or so, and it was about 90 cards, all of it Lightning Bolts and Mesa Pegasus with "enough" lands to play enough of them out to win a game here or there. It was a ton of fun, and I've enjoyed Magic ever since! However, I much prefer playing a finely-tuned 3-Land Belcher deck in Modern to running old Kamigawa-block White Weenie or some such. Sure, games went longer "Back in the Day", but there's plenty of potential in interesting, interactive decks in most formats right now, and Standard is quite enjoyable. All these Rose-Colored Glasses feel like a bunch of BS to me; decks weren't necessarily "more fun" in the past, we just played in a manner that felt more fun in our small groups.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 01/10/2018)
    Anger of the Gods. Terminus. Settle the Wreckage. Nihil Spellbomb in Goyf decks. Scavenging Ooze. There are options you can even MD to hate out heavy GY decks, and plenty of good SB options. When the numbers show Dredge is a problem, then we can look at it as a problem. Until then, it's a deck with plenty of options available to fight it.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [UMA] - Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper Boosters
    Just a heads-up: many stores seem to be getting these at a very low Buy price. This set seems to be more of "We're sorry" from WotC to LGSs after the horribleness of Mythic Edition, allowing the LGS to charge up to the "Retail" price if they want to make a large profit on this product. Here's hoping we can all get one of these for around $250 instead, which is an extremely good price, IMO!
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [UMA] - Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper Boosters
    Quote from Manite »
    It's just hard to have faith in a company that has spent half a decade destroying consumer confidence. Their words are worth less than the cardboard they sell for so much.


    "Destroying consumer confidence"? Even though their past few blocks have all been major hits? As have been the Commander products, Conspiracy sets, and Battlebond? Hell, pretty much all of their sets since Shards of Alara? About the only products that haven't done well are secondary products like Duel Decks and Masters. I don't know what evidence you have to back up that claim, but it sounds like distorted perception of reality to me.

    No, their past few blocks have SOLD decently, though they ended print runs for Khladesh before the set even rotated due to their earlier mistaken ideas of "Quicker rotations is great, guys!" Which is the real problem: HASBRO directives that have led to constant shake-ups in how Standard works, more cards banned in 2 years than had seen banned in the last decade combined(!), and multiple terrible Masters sets smashed into the same year. Also, their newest Commander set wasn't highly-regarded, their treatment of Pros and Cheaters is constantly being addressed by fans and some of the best Pros around as "incredibly inadequate," and their communication is among the worst.

    PROFIT MARGINS!!! do not inspire confidence in a consumer, IMO. A company that can actually adapt and move in tandem with their player-base is much more successful than a Blockbuster that just continues to make a ton of money doing things exactly one way....until it doesn't.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [UMA] - Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper Boosters
    It's just hard to have faith in a company that has spent half a decade destroying consumer confidence. Their words are worth less than the cardboard they sell for so much.
    Are we talking about Konami? Because relative to what I've seen, I know we're not talking WOTC. And even if we were, I'd blame Hasbro first.

    I don't refer to the puppeteer and the puppet by different names; they are one and the same, despite their different appearances.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [UMA] - Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper Boosters
    It's just hard to have faith in a company that has spent half a decade destroying consumer confidence. Their words are worth less than the cardboard they sell for so much.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    It's nice to see some sensible approaches to this product here; there hasn't been any indication of how much product large chain stores will see, as "A Limited-Run Printing" could mean almost anything, and didn't instill much hope of solving price issues in Modern IMO. However, hopefully the blister packs will solve some of the issues by being heavily produced and distributed.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [UMA] - Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper Boosters
    Quote from tronix »
    cmon, dont you think you are being a bit sensationalist here? killing legacy? turning modern into legacy? how does anything about this product say that.

    i get that some people wish wizards would flood the market and stamp down prices in a serious way, but its just an unrealistic expectation.

    what we do know though is that this is more supply of some expensive cards, and prices of those cards will drop. we know this because its observable. the drop doesnt last forever, but wizards hasnt said they arent going to do value reprints in ancillary products anymore; but rather that they are shelving the masters line because it wasnt panning out as they hoped.

    i mean we literally have people complaining about 300+ dollar 'premium' products being stupid. guess what? they are going away!

    in short: the masters line being retired does not equate to the end of wizards caring about card availability. it just means they think they can address it in some other way.

    Wizards thinks a lot of things. Wizards has been fairly consistently wrong about those things for almost 2 years now, unless those things have to do with Arena or Standard after the rotation. How much faith can I have as a Modern player in such a company, given their past actions this year and last?

    The "evidence" is that there are no products I can think of they could print Fetches in. The Guild Kits had maybe 3 needed reprints. Is 3 reprints per set going to satisfy demand? In limited print run products? Not remotely. If people are going to play Magic as a *game*, not a financial investment, Wizards has been going about things the wrong way. I have little faith they will suddenly do a 180 and "figure out" how to solve Modern's current supply and pricing issues.

    We have seen little evidence they will solve these issues. It is observable from the past few years that they either don't care, or are being mismanaged by HASBRO. What else can I think but, "Sucks to be me?"
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [UMA] - Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper Boosters
    Quote from Hertz »
    The only thing that is ridiculous regarding this set is the comments and attempts to justify intellectual property price based on costs. I will remind you that any personal copy of music you listen or game you play costs literally zero to be delivered to you; yet you pay for it.

    If you think that $300 is too much - well, guess what, just don't buy it. Whining about that is like going to Lamborghini forum and spending a day complaining that you cannot afford one.
    Quote from Crazy Pierre »
    There are 14 other cards in the pack, and this is virtually guaranteed to have one foil per pack.
    If they put a high amount of playable staples it will be fine. I'll gladly pay $16-$18 CDN for one pack to get something I can just flip for value, etc.
    It will be fine.

    THE EV IS NOT THE PROBLEM. The health of the Modern format is the problem! If you guys are looking for 8 Whales sitting at a table to be the entirety of a GP, great! We'll watch it on Twitch, I guess, because even though I've done quite well in multiple Modern tournaments, I'm not going to keep dumping money into it if prices just go soaring as the supply fails to meet demand! If you want Modern to just be Legacy 2.0, this is how that happens.

    People are angry because Wizards is essentially saying, "We're killing Legacy and turning Modern into Legacy 2.0, and we're going to try and make as much money off of you as we can while we do that." Modern players have been looking to make the format more approachable for newer players, and UMA does nothing to help with that. We're not running excel sheets to see how much money we can make off the newest Modern set; we're hoping it will drive down prices so we can try out more decks, or experiment with decks we've been previously unable to afford. I want my wife to be able to play her own style of deck; I want some of my friends to see if Modern is fun for them.

    But no, GP "8 Whales" Madrid is apparently the future of the format now.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [UMA] - Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper Boosters
    Quote from tronix »

    'just flood the market to lower prices, more people will play, and you will make more money'

    i mean really? 'lets forego this obvious solution that makes us more money because...(what?)'.

    Some possibilities:
    1) Slowly increasing the trickle to more and more value per set would slowly increase quarterly profits as customers buy more of it, feeding into the usual corporate tactic of "increasing profits by setting quarterly goals that exceed the previous quarter's goals" in an artificial manner.

    2) HASBRO has stock in one of the larger Secondary Market entities like SCG, and would lose money overall if they flooded the market and heavily tanked SCG or TCGPlayer's stock.

    3) Mismanagement or some kind of corporate move by HASBRO with other effects in the industry that just happen to negatively affect us as the players and WotC as one of their IPs.


    I mean, I can totally imagine there are logical reasons for WotC to be doing the things they've done this last year, and also be really irritated that there are easy solutions to how poorly Modern is being treated which are being ignored.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [UMA] - Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper Boosters
    Quote from Volrath »
    I really don't like Urborg. It could be any swamp and there is even an actual tomb...


    "New Urborg art not edgy enough for Volrath! More at 11."
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [UMA] - Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper Boosters
    I'm honestly just waiting for the giant "F U" at this point...will it be Amazon exclusive, so GREEDBRO can use a working website to sell their product for once, nonetheless screwing over every LGS that keeps the game running? Is it actually going to be a $20 Booster pack, with maybe 2x the Rare Slots or some such? Will it be a Mythic Edition II: Get F***ed Boogaloo?

    I'll probably just keep expecting the worst to keep my expectations low, while PRAYING they make these WPN store Box Toppers.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 01/10/2018)
    Miracle mechanic is "Fair"? Cascade is fair?? LOL.

    CoCo, Aether Vial, Blood Moon are fair? Haha, yeah, I agree there's a spectrum of Fair vs Unfair in Modern, and compared to KCI, those are all much closer to "Fair," but no "Good" deck in Modern is ACTUALLY 100% Fair, IMO.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Mono-blue Tempo
    Is MTGO quite a bit harder than Arena? Because I've been jamming this deck as on Arena, and I'm undefeated in multiple Competitive Constructed Leagues...

    Also, is Surge just straight better than Diamond in the SB? Been running Diamond, thought it was decent, but Surge seems awesome!
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/08/2018)
    I think the author's conclusion is incredibly misguided. The usual rhetoric of those who've never played Tron or KCI is always, "But muh deck-building restrictions!" Anyone who has played those decks know the restrictions are a laugh. It's like someone arguing a card has deck-building restrictions because it can only find cards made of card-board. What if you aren't playing those, guys??? Then it's a terrible card!! Rolleyes

    So yeah, the usual defense of a card that acts as half a demonic tutor for a good portion of Tier 1 decks (as well as historically Tier 1 decks like Lantern). I'd love to see Stirrings go, myself; KCI is a terrible deck, and should never be Tier 1. Tron is not far behind, though they're obviously seeing 20 pieces of hate printed against them right now. Nonetheless, I'd be happy to see Blue Tron be the new Tron deck in Town, so yeah; please ban Stirrings.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
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