MTG Salvation

He can actually be funny in Azorius control. Use Detain to lock down their big guys and jace to protect from weenies

I mean graveyard into your library

Idk, you guys have proven time and again to misjudge the power, or lack there of, or many cards before. Like I don't know how many of you wrote off bonfire as a bad fireball on the beginning when it was spoiled xD. Picked mine up for $5

Lol UW control. It's gonna happen. And if you really wanted to be a janky troll, use the new artifact that makes lands tap for any color and win with door to nothingness

Ok I know this card is meh, but with detain being an ETB ability, could make him pretty fun for UW control/tempo what are thoughts?

The only deck I can see this in is a janky UW control deck that uses Door to Nothingness as a wincon

Eh, I wish old Niv was around. But I guess it figures they changed the ability because allowing the old and curiosity in the same standard is a bad idea

Really -.- people are comparing this to emrakul??? Of course this wurm is uncomparable. emmie was wizard R&D saying to themselves " what is the most retarded creature ever?"

I mean really:
Annihilator 6
Protection from all colored spells
Flying
Shuffles itself AND your library back into your deck
AND gives you another turn when cast?
Oh and is a 15/15

Of course nothing is going to compare to that. I would be terrified of wizards ever printed a creature as powerful again.

This guy really loves Deadeye navigator. Just saying lol

Unfortunately, Quest for the Nihil Stone is no longer in standard. With that floating around, along with cards like Liliana's Caress, Inquisition of Kozilek, Scepter, and Megrim, you could quite easily do hand disruption decks.

I actually did pretty well with a deck built around hand disrupting in extended Alara/Zen/Mirrodin by using Quest For the Nihil, Lilliana Caress, Megrim, the undying ravenous rats, lilliana of the veil, and a bunch on hand disruption and control. Essentially, your hand disruption makes it so that Quest will always trigger, making them loose 5 life each upkeep per quest in play

After rotation if anyone will see play in frites its probably Griselbrand and Gisela. Gisela is VERY good against aggro (cutting their damage in half while doubling your own is brutal). Maybe Sigarda might show up (as a 1 or 2 of to protect their other fatties)

Could see play in a UB Tezz control maybe xD. It becomes a 5/5 that draws you a card and can tap to ping things out of the sky.

Quote from jturphy

Never compared it to a Titan. Said Titans were 100% better in control decks, which is true.

Also, no need to play the card, it is terrible.

Not true.
In a mirror match up or a match up against delver/Esper Solarflare a titan is worse for one reason. In order to bring in titan, you usually tap out. The problem is, they can easily mana leak/Doom Blade/GftT/Tribute to Hunger/Day/ ect.

With JP you can bring in a 5/5 flyer with still PLENTLY of mana open for further control of the board.

I find it hilarious that the detractors of this card are INTENTIONALLY being BAD magic players to say this card sucks. Of course you don't play JP turn 1... Only a bad magic player would do that...

I went 2-2 with a UG Druid Delver.

It actually ran pretty well when I wasn't getting color screwed so I just need to adjust my mana base and I am sure the deck can actually do well. I did manage to beat traditional Delver and a Bant pod deck. I just got over run by a mono-W human build (His oldric got really old) and a UW haunted humans deck -.-