As a fan of the scientific method, I must really point out that, when it comes to determining the probabilities of a phenomenon occurring, a single experiment conducted on two samples (I.E. the barest minimum) is not NEARLY enough to reach a definitive conclusions. Buy 50 packs, determine a specific pattern among all those (or most of those), and then we'll talk. Two packs prove nothing.
He opened two full sealed boxes, i.e., 48 packs. The two boxes had totally identical rares and mythics bar one pack in each having something different. The different cards were Mikokoro and Jace.
They were also in exactly the same order, albeit slightly jumbled during removing the packs from the box. The probability of that happening nears impossible.
Will it be one in each pack? What's your projection of their foil/nonfoil price upon release?
Not quite one in each pack. Steamflogger Boss can be in the land slot because it's a "legal" card. But it'll be pretty infrequent.
The value is weird. People buy un-set boosters for one of three reasons: For nothing but the fun of it, For a draft, Or for the land. Since the only card with "value" outside of collecting in each booster is the land (and boss), expect this to happen: The non foil lands will have a value of around the cost of the booster for a while. Boosters will be opened, but nothing like the quantity that a normal set sees being opened. The set won't see a second print run, and booster prices will drop to fire-sale levels while stores try to shift the stock. The value of the lands will go to a very low point as people buy ultra cheap boosters, and the set will dry up fairly quick after this point. After that, the prices will gradually rise, "value" should be restored by 12-18 months post dry up. Beyond that, the prices should keep going up slowly. This is pretty much what's happened to every Un-set, and was why Hasbro were so resistant to making another. I guess the only wrinkle in the theory is if it's actually really fun and good to draft, and people draft the heck out of it.
Foils will be *very* valuable from day one, and probably see no dip.
Great, so these hideous things are slightly more common than the much better Ultra Mythics we had before
Can the people who have actually seen these weigh in?
Are they any less disappointing looking in person?
They look like trash, and I'd never ever keep or trade for one. They honestly look worse IRL, which amazed me. My overall reaction was that they look like a kid's school art project.
On the other hand, the fact that one of the two Black mythics is already from the Innistrad block could mean that they had the balls to not reprint Liliana at all. It's still possible of course, but from all the sets they can choose from are both Black Mythics really going to be from the same block? It would explain the secrecy they had with the product.
If MM15 was a reliable indicator, most of the mythics in this set will be from Innistrad and RTR blocks. 9 of the 15 mythics there were from Zendikar and Scars blocks, and of the 6 that weren't, 4 were reprints from the original MM and another had just been unbanned.
Folks, get ready for some chaff, especially if both LotV makes the cut and Tarmogoyf gets another go-around. For one, I expect all three mythic miracles to be in this set.
As for a LOTV reprint, if she doesn't show up here she will probably be in Amonkhet. Unlike most modern staples where they can't print them in a standard legal set, LOTV isn't a standard warping card. With no strong discard effects and graveyard and discard mechanics leaving standard she could easily be introduced in standard.
Don't bet on that one. LotV was originally slotted to be the black PW in M15, but R&D decided it would be a mistake to put her in standard again.
They didn't print LotV in M15 because they didn't want a "no fun allowed" standard with LotV and Thoughtsieze at the same time, but said that she was still a candidate for Standard in "the right place".
In modern, how about 4 1/1 fliers, 4 cards, and take control and haste a creature for a turn for a meager 3 mana? Kari Zev's Expertise + fused Beck//Call. Throw in Simian Spirit Guides and you can be rocking this on T1 easy. For a spicy alternative, switch out Beck//Call for Breaking//Entering.
On Saturday, there was a Noxious Gearhulk, Sword of Light and Shadow, Chromatic Lantern, and one unknown masterpiece that the guy forgot which one he had, all he said was that he was able to get $60 credit for it. He pulled two that day. On Sunday someone opened a Sword of Fire and Ice and I opened an Aether Vial.
Oh for your Aether Vial , is the foil over the complete card or just the border ?
I have a Aether Vial and it looks like the foil on it is missing in the art and middle of the card. Looks very weird.
only te copper frame and border is foily. Its kinda dissapointing.
Have to agree. The foiling is really meh. It would have been better if they just did the generic Game Day style foil with the fancy frame.
He opened two full sealed boxes, i.e., 48 packs. The two boxes had totally identical rares and mythics bar one pack in each having something different. The different cards were Mikokoro and Jace.
They were also in exactly the same order, albeit slightly jumbled during removing the packs from the box. The probability of that happening nears impossible.
Not quite one in each pack. Steamflogger Boss can be in the land slot because it's a "legal" card. But it'll be pretty infrequent.
The value is weird. People buy un-set boosters for one of three reasons: For nothing but the fun of it, For a draft, Or for the land. Since the only card with "value" outside of collecting in each booster is the land (and boss), expect this to happen: The non foil lands will have a value of around the cost of the booster for a while. Boosters will be opened, but nothing like the quantity that a normal set sees being opened. The set won't see a second print run, and booster prices will drop to fire-sale levels while stores try to shift the stock. The value of the lands will go to a very low point as people buy ultra cheap boosters, and the set will dry up fairly quick after this point. After that, the prices will gradually rise, "value" should be restored by 12-18 months post dry up. Beyond that, the prices should keep going up slowly. This is pretty much what's happened to every Un-set, and was why Hasbro were so resistant to making another. I guess the only wrinkle in the theory is if it's actually really fun and good to draft, and people draft the heck out of it.
Foils will be *very* valuable from day one, and probably see no dip.
They have the dot because Steamflogger boss is on the same sheet as the lands. It's probably easier to set it up to just dot everything on a sheet.
Which makes them perfect.
They look like trash, and I'd never ever keep or trade for one. They honestly look worse IRL, which amazed me. My overall reaction was that they look like a kid's school art project.
They reprint promo art all the time. the art on Judge promos, for example, have been heavily reprinted recently.
They didn't print LotV in M15 because they didn't want a "no fun allowed" standard with LotV and Thoughtsieze at the same time, but said that she was still a candidate for Standard in "the right place".
I know what I'd rather have to fight...
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Have to agree. The foiling is really meh. It would have been better if they just did the generic Game Day style foil with the fancy frame.