Quote from ElectricEye »What's with all the sacrifice effects in this set?
Quote from SnowBunny »Quote from thatmarkguy »So you run it in decks where your deck was built to profit from a symmetrical boardwipe. Like, say, Afterlife. Or Undying.
But very few of those decks would prefer to blow up their whole board over just keeping the creatures and swinging in with them... And if you are introducing undying, you are now looking at formats that have Wrath of God/Day of Judgment/Supreme Verdict/Terminus.... and this card doesnt come close to those cards in power...
Quote from thatmarkguy »So you run it in decks where your deck was built to profit from a symmetrical boardwipe. Like, say, Afterlife. Or Undying.
Quote from ElectricEye »Wish this was 2 mana rather than 3. At 3 mana it does not seem quite impactful enough. But we shall see
Then again I am glad they did not churn out another extremely pushed 3 mana walker like Liliana of the Veil
Quote from Chosenone919 »Yes that might be, but from my experience, that will not always happen in Jeskai, as you will not have the chance to curve out in every game - either the mana don't work or your spells. And most UW Decks will for sure like to play some colorless utility lands I think, and then Sabatoge clearly becomes much better. It's not just all about the optimal settings. You can clearly have double blue on turn 3 and double white on turn 2. But you will not always be in that place and if you can't cast your Counterspell and your wrath, that's really bad.
Quote from Chosenone919 »I think this card is really overrated from players, that don't like playing against Teferi and Control.
As said above: Sinister Sabotage is much better - if you have played with Dissolve or Sabatoge, you will know. And with this Casting Cost (which is really hard on Turn 3 sometimes), I can't see it beeing played over Sabatoge and which decks wants more than 4 Cancels? And the life may be relevant in some minore situations, but 3 life is not that much, if you see all the creatures nowadays. When Renewed Faith was reprinted, many thought it would be as good as it was in the past, but 2 life are not that good against the decks from today. And the same is true for Absorb, which was for sure good when it was first printed, but now we have better Cancels and mostly 3 life will not safe you one more turn.
And when I see, that it might be good against Aggro - I mostly board out all my expensive countermagic, as you need much cheaper interaction and what will you counter with this on Turn 3? I can't see this really seeing any major play in Standard - and in older formats, no one will play 3 mana Counterspells, even the 2 mana ones are mostly bad.
Quote from KSDT »Honestly I don't think this will see any play. The only reason Ionize sees play is because 1UR is easier to cast in some mana bases than Sinister Sabotage's 1UU. Absorb not only is harder to cast than Sabotage, the extra effect is generally speaking weaker. You're only playing Absorb after you've already put in a full playset of Sabatoges and frankly not even hard core control decks need that many Cancels. Might as well run some cheaper or alternatively useful counters at that point (Disdainful Stroke, Syncopate, Spell Pierce, ect...).
Quote from WizardMN »It looks like there hasn't been much movement in this thread, but I figured I would share what I have done so far:
I called their phone line (1-800-408-0052) and got the message that they could not take my call due to high call volume.
I emailed CustomerService@HasbroToyShop.com and have received no response.
I attempted to open a Chat on their shop.hasbro.com website but they have disabled it.
At this point, I expect that the negative response and the complaints they are receiving are legitimately overwhelming them to the point where they can't do anything else. I don't think it is a willful ignorance of the issues but, without their communication, it is hard to tell.
I ended up finding Hasbro's Consumer Care phone line on Google which was different than the one above as the number above is for the Toy Shop specifically and the one I called is a more general number. I called 1-800-255-5516. This time I was finally able to get through to a person after about 10 minutes on hold. She told me that my order was voided and that nothing happened with it. She offered to submit a new order for me for 1 unit instead of the 2 I ordered. I asked her what this means for the other person I ordered one for since they stopped trying to submit an order once mine was successful. She said they were SOL.
The next issue came about when trying to submit the new order. Since it is a new order, they needed my credit card info which I provided. But, the charge was declined because I still had a pending charge from Hasbro for the original $549. There was no mention of when this charge would be released. I ended up using my debit card.
At the end of it, it appears that I now have a successful order for 1 unit instead of 2 like I ordered. It still does not show up on my account online, so I am not totally positive that things are going through.
Also, since I was upset mostly at the situation and what led to it more than not getting my full order, I emailed Brian Goldner, the CEO of Hasbro. I got the email off Google so I am not even sure it is the right email address, but it was cathartic to at least vent about the situation. If it does go to the right person, at least that is something. I fully expect it to be ignored so it isn't really something that I expected to achieve anything beyond me voicing my complaints.