It was a fun game. And pretty exciting when GJ got poe’d. Not an easy win at all.
If GJ would have been lynched, Grape might have reassessed. Or HR might have questioned why he was still alive, depending on who I killed.
I’m happy ZDS voted me before Grape could vote GJ.
@ZDS: I think that was ultimately your mistake. You somehow saw it as your job to start the voting, putting yourself up for lynch. Since you knew you were the LHF townie, letting Grape vote GJ would have been a better path to victory. Then on the last Day there was only 1 town to convince i stead of two. (Or you lose because GJ is town, but then you can blame Grape )
Actually no, I can’t leave this hanging. You’re throwing empty accusations without a shred of proof.
Show me why Highroller and Grape are more “proactive” than me. It’s just a buzzword you threw in with no reasoning. And it doesn’t mesh with your previous Highroller view at all + you said you didn’t even reread Highroller.
Meh I was gonna answer something but deleted it because I’m not gonna convince you that you’re mafia and you clearly stopped answering my questions.
We need others to chime in now.
How does a doorman not open the door for someone to come in without trouble? It’s the first role that jumps to mind.
What did you think it would do?
Who would you and GJ gang up on then if you wanted to keep townreading each other? That would mean accusing 2 towns together and you would need the third to side with you or have the two turn on each other. That would be extremely hard to pull off.
Dropping the HR scumread is the easy way out since Grape and me won’t lynch him.
You said in 242 that you would continue the discussion with HR on Day 2.
HR made 0 posts after that on Day 1 besides a twilight post to Snoopy.
You decided overNight, while skipping him in your reread, that you were wrong. Your explanation doesn’t add up.
Sorry for the stringposting but it looks like I am all alone in the thread.
I iso’d GJ and can’t find anything. If he’s mafia, he played a very clean game.
The only thing is that if he is mafia, Wisp was onto him and died. But that’s a bunch of wine.
As far as a combo with ZDS goes: he defended ZDS a lot. That one post still bugs me though because why would you ever tell your buddy that you won’t attack him IN THREAD. It makes no sense.
Still have the Grape iso to do but need a break. I hope meanwhile some of you post to break my stringposts lol.
@ZDS look at Wisp’s answers and tell me again how my question isn’t game related? It is just as much game related as asking someone why they didn’t ask the mod a question.
I still don’t get why you post both the question and the answer in one post rather than deleting the question when you see it’s answered.
OMGUS can be a natural adverse reaction to what you feel is an unfair attack, or it can be a calculated attempt to discredit both the attack and the attacker.
Which one do you think Rhand is doing?
I'm not going to jump at your throat if I don't like your answer... as long as you actually commit to a stance and stop the "on the one hand this, on the other hand that" dance.
Interesting question. I would like to see your own answer to it as well.
I’m pretty sure the bolded means ZDS and GJ are unaligned.
Note to self. ZDS, if we are ever partners, we just need to tickle each other chins and if one goes down, the other is insta locked
I would like to see your own answer to it as well.
I mean, considering his vote on you, hasn't he already answered this question? o-0
@HR you said at one point that Grape putting ZDS at L-1 when he did was his only option as a buddy.
It’s the same thing that I cleared that team possibility for. Do you really think that the buddy’s hand was forced at that point? Why?
Extrapolating that, do you think it excludes GJ / ZDS because GJ did not vote ZDS there?
@ZDS: walk me through the thought process of “HR is mafia” to “HR is probably town because Wisp and Pokechu are mafia” to “HR is town because Rhand and GJ are mafia”. Apart from calling other people mafia, you never gave a reason why you dropped the HR scumread, you told him you would continue the discussion toDay if Poke flipped town, you said you townread Wisp after rereading but you even skipped HR in that reread. It makes no sense.
I think ZDS/GJ is my final answer because I think HR is town and Grape/ZDS makes no sense.
ZDS setting up a chainyeet on GJ/me with ate to Grape and HR and then that obvious “I would never do this as mafia” lie seals the deal on him.
Of course he doesn’t care if his buddy dies toDay as long as I die toMorrow.
I’m iso’ing everyone now to be sure I’m not confbiasing, but I’m pretty much sold that that is the solution.
About the claims:
GJ: win vs Rhand, upgrade and burn
Rhand: win vs Grape, loss vs GJ, upgrade
Grape: loss vs ZDS, loss vs Rhand, message
ZDS: ? vs Last, win vs Grape, win vs HR
HR: loss vs ZDS, upgrade
If there is logic to the upgrades, then I think Last targeted HR and lost, giving HR a win/loss and the same upgrade result as me.
So LW rock at HR, giving ZDS a loss/win/win. I think. If no one lied.
As for my own claim of "doormanning" the NK victim, there really isn't a way to talk about it that doesn't taste like wine. Nevertheless, for the record, if I were scum I would not have targeted the NK victim in the first place.
So you wouldn’t target the guy you’re gonna kill with another ability that sounds like it might prevent protection? And doesn’t give a possible track on you two targets? I mean... come on. We’re not dumb lol.
Sorry about the pointless taunt Johnny, my imagination goes haywire when I don't understand something.
You did not address the elephant in the room, so please do. What's that about "town siding"?
Wut.
Elephent in the room? That was just me saying I was town siding on you at the time of highroller's vote. As a further justification of why I don't think Grape's vote on you is ever a bus. Is something unclear about that?
"Town siding" in a Mafia context means "to side with the town". It's something 3rd parties can do (I made the "scumchat" accusation in the spur of the moment, in part because of the shifting pronouns, I was wrong).
Looking up "town siding mafia" in various search engines returns results that conform to my definition.
I ask you with no sarcasm: are you a neutral or 3rd party?
@Not-Johnny Don't sleep on this. If anyone is more familiar with Johnny's definition of "town siding" than with mine please let me know.
Because I was mimicking HR’s reporting style? And I asked Osie if I got any results from my ability and he said no.
Wasn’t it you that attacked me for asking a pointless question in RVS?
If GJ would have been lynched, Grape might have reassessed. Or HR might have questioned why he was still alive, depending on who I killed.
I’m happy ZDS voted me before Grape could vote GJ.
@ZDS: I think that was ultimately your mistake. You somehow saw it as your job to start the voting, putting yourself up for lynch. Since you knew you were the LHF townie, letting Grape vote GJ would have been a better path to victory. Then on the last Day there was only 1 town to convince i stead of two. (Or you lose because GJ is town, but then you can blame Grape
I'm off to bed now.
Guess the ball is rolling then.
vote ZDS
Funny how you vote me in your “scum duo” and not GJ, who Grape just said he wanted to lynch. ZDS/GJ pairing confirmed.
Show me why Highroller and Grape are more “proactive” than me. It’s just a buzzword you threw in with no reasoning. And it doesn’t mesh with your previous Highroller view at all + you said you didn’t even reread Highroller.
We need others to chime in now.
What did you think it would do?
Who would you and GJ gang up on then if you wanted to keep townreading each other? That would mean accusing 2 towns together and you would need the third to side with you or have the two turn on each other. That would be extremely hard to pull off.
Dropping the HR scumread is the easy way out since Grape and me won’t lynch him.
You said in 242 that you would continue the discussion with HR on Day 2.
HR made 0 posts after that on Day 1 besides a twilight post to Snoopy.
You decided overNight, while skipping him in your reread, that you were wrong. Your explanation doesn’t add up.
I iso’d GJ and can’t find anything. If he’s mafia, he played a very clean game.
The only thing is that if he is mafia, Wisp was onto him and died. But that’s a bunch of wine.
As far as a combo with ZDS goes: he defended ZDS a lot. That one post still bugs me though because why would you ever tell your buddy that you won’t attack him IN THREAD. It makes no sense.
Still have the Grape iso to do but need a break. I hope meanwhile some of you post to break my stringposts lol.
It’s the same thing that I cleared that team possibility for. Do you really think that the buddy’s hand was forced at that point? Why?
Extrapolating that, do you think it excludes GJ / ZDS because GJ did not vote ZDS there?
ZDS setting up a chainyeet on GJ/me with ate to Grape and HR and then that obvious “I would never do this as mafia” lie seals the deal on him.
Of course he doesn’t care if his buddy dies toDay as long as I die toMorrow.
I’m iso’ing everyone now to be sure I’m not confbiasing, but I’m pretty much sold that that is the solution.
About the claims:
GJ: win vs Rhand, upgrade and burn
Rhand: win vs Grape, loss vs GJ, upgrade
Grape: loss vs ZDS, loss vs Rhand, message
ZDS: ? vs Last, win vs Grape, win vs HR
HR: loss vs ZDS, upgrade
If there is logic to the upgrades, then I think Last targeted HR and lost, giving HR a win/loss and the same upgrade result as me.
So LW rock at HR, giving ZDS a loss/win/win. I think. If no one lied.
So you wouldn’t target the guy you’re gonna kill with another ability that sounds like it might prevent protection? And doesn’t give a possible track on you two targets? I mean... come on. We’re not dumb lol.
I’m doing a reread today.
Because I was mimicking HR’s reporting style? And I asked Osie if I got any results from my ability and he said no.
Wasn’t it you that attacked me for asking a pointless question in RVS?
I had no idea what to expect from my role. Commander sounds helpful but could also be something like a redirect.
I aimed it at the middle of my reads.
I’m going to wait until HR claimed, but I spotted some strangeness in the claims.