It was a hard game for me because both of you are very eloquent and I am not native English.
It takes me a lot of effort to parse your posts.
I probably should’ve ended it way earlier. I was right all along and started doubting somewhere midgame.
About the setup: I don’t think I would play 3 player games again. It’s too much of a crapshoot, especially in the Wheat/Kpaca/Bur game.
JeyK played masterfully. She seemed extremely innocent in her posting. That game was a clear win.
The idea works tho, but I think larger games is the way to go.
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Jun 23, 2018Rhand posted a message on Nine's a Crowd - Game 1 Game Over - Feedback In Here!Posted in: Mafia
Jun 23, 2018@Az: what I am talking about is this:Posted in: Mafia
“But here and now, I don't trust him one bit. Not because he's reckless, because that has nothing to do with whether or not he's right. I don't trust him because he keeps trying to lie to make his case, keeps doing that thing that scum do where they're so desperate to make a point stick, that they read completely innocent behavior as something else entirely, and twist people's points 180 degrees because they're not even bothering to try to actually understand them. Yeah, Iso is untrustworthy. Not because he's a bad townie, but because he's not even close to measuring up to even an average townie level of performance, much less coming anywhere close to playing like one of the finest town players I've ever played beside. ”
That whole paragraph makes no sense because the reason you don’t trust Iso (if you’re town) is that you know he’s scum. I get the pointing out stuff for me idea, but your wording makes this look like one big lue.
Jun 22, 2018Ehm Azrael I have a big issue with your last post. You’re spending a whole alinea talking about why you don’t trust Iso in this particular game, while for you as town, it’s completely clear-cut that he’s scum.Posted in: Mafia
I think you’re trying to type what you think I should be thinking about Iso, instead of giving your own honest thoughts. Which doesn’t feel like something town would be doing at all.
Jun 22, 2018I seriously see cases against and for both of you.Posted in: Mafia
Iso seemed a bit too eager to have me vote, shows some pocketing and a bit of reaching / painting a scum picture.
Azrael is a bit defensive, uses self-meta, shows a bit of pocketing too.
The problem is that one of you knows the other is scum, and that explains a lot of behaviour, making most of what I read NAI.
I’m still waiting on input from my teammates before I’m making a fonal decision.
Jun 21, 2018Posted in: MafiaQuote from Iso »Also, I would disagree that what's said is NAI if you see the inconsistencies that I highlighted in Azrael's mindset as well as his approach to arguing about me - that he shouldn't care about the way I do things as town, because as town, he would logically not even be considering that angle. The only reason he could possibly have to make you think, "Well, Iso isn't reliable as town" is if he's scum.
@Az: you never debunked this
Jun 21, 2018Posted in: MafiaQuote from Iso »It's more that I thought Az was scummier than you based on his approach to the game, as I've already explained.
I'm really disappointed that you're considering voting me; I thought you'd have known better.
But you always think I’m scum. What made me town this time?
Jun 21, 2018Gah this is hard. I’m not allowed to use half of what is said to base conclusions off.Posted in: Mafia
I know both of you pretty well, and everything that has been said is NAI. Both of you are trying to discredit the other, which makes sense as both alignments in this case because one of you knows the other is scum and the other has to pretend to know the one is scum. Both of you are using a bit of AtE.
I have thought about the early vote tactic, and I am town (pro Iso), but I decided against it because it pushes win chances below 50% unless you’re sold the one you’re voting is scum.
What worries me is... how sure can Iso have been after so few posts? And the early reasoning is based on something I was told to ignore.
What worries me about Az is that weird slow-roll vote on Iso.
I also don’t know what questions I can ask you to make a more informed judgement.
Currently I am leaning towards voting Iso. I’m waiting for input of my teammates.
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