I've had this thread favorited for probably close to 6 months if not longer, and I always keep an eye on any changes you figure out. I enjoy using some of the recommendations for my own personal Teysa deck.
That being said, I always look at some other cards too. I try to keep my Teysa deck to a theme, that of my deck being a church. So I only try to use shamans, monks, clerics, and spirits. I do have the small exceptions if they are too good to exclude.
One such cleric that I think you might want to have a look-see at is Doomed Necromancer. It's amazing graveyard recursion, bringing something back to the battlefield. It's black which nets you a spirit. And it combos well with Reveillark. It is also pretty awesome with Sun Titan. But it's something to look towards. I run Rotlung so I have a pretty heavy cleric package, to get the most out of him.
So. Question. I've been running a very similar decklist to this.
I run a little harder on the swarm strategy as a secondary win-con, when I can't draw a sac outlet to save my life and I have 15 spirits sitting on the board and nothing worth exiling. Worst comes to worst, I sac three spirits with a grave pact and force everyone else.
Anywho. In looking at your list and how it goes a little harder on the drain strategy. Have you considered running Debt to the Deathless? It fits your drain strategy well. It wins me games constantly. Have ashnod's out? Good. Have 10-15 creatures to sac (Which this deck can do)? Great. Have 4 mana open? End the game.
If you ensure that no one can drop a counter spell... sac all 10-15 to ashnod's. There's 20-30 mana right there. Pump that into a Debt to the Deathless with it's 4 color cost. 20-30 X Debt... Deals twice that to everyone. And you gain that life back.
It's a really amazing late-game card, where I notice this deck tends to weaken. You can be staring down the barrel of a loaded gun with a sliver of life left and three players wanting to kill you. Have the creatures? Use 'em.
And actually, Schondetta, if you don't mind looking at TappedOut... here's the link to my deck.
Ninja Edit: In case you were wondering... I have a very artifact/enchantment heavy meta. Thus the reason for the numerous hate spells. I tried to go for "exile target artifact/enchantment" effects, because recursion. it's a *****.
What I've seen from Blind Obedience so far is that it doesn't impact a multiplayer board enough to overcome the aggression that it draws. So, probably that, Field of Souls, and Bloodline Keeper or High Priest.
Blind Obedience has been on the chopping block and the only reason the axe hasn't come down, is that people in my meta love their haste. Field of Souls is a mini-combo with Teysa and Reassembling. Say you have 6 mana, a Phyrexian Altar, Field of Souls, Teysa and Reassembling. Not a bad board. Sac Reassembling Skeleton to Phyrexian altar for a black mana, tap one, recast him. Do this all the times. You get 2 spirits each sac.
So per turn you're looking at 12 spirits. High Priest is getting chopped, that's for sure. Bloodline keeper is too much fun. Especially since I'm saccing CONSTANTLY.
I might pull out High Priest for Necromancy because the combo that gets with sun-titan. But I'll keep a look-out. Thanks again, man. Checked out your GCO and got some more ideas, so I'll have to make a list of maybes and go from there.
Ok, I'm halfway over my flu now. At least I can sit up for a half hour or so without feeling like death. Man, next year I'm gettin a flu shot, this sucks.
I should note that you may want to take a look at the Ghost Council build in my sig. I've recently done lots of updates to the section on combos/tricks, and it has a lot of them that translate very well into Teysa. I maintain/update that thread a lot more than this one.
... Yeah. I'm waiting on my buddy to hook me up with his godless shrine and marsh flats. He's just being stubborn at the time. As for Knight Captain, Sheoldred and Necromancy. What would you recommend taking those out for?
My sincere apologies for not getting back to you. I came down with the Norwalk Virus yesterday and I'm barely able to sit up. It might be a few days before I'm well enough to give a complete response, but I promise that I will as soon as I feel better.
I'm kind of a new-comer when it comes to the MTGSalvation boards, at least in the posting department. But, ya know. I've been lurking for awhile.
You seem to be the top dog when it comes to Orzhov colored decks. So I'm looking for your comments on my Teysa deck. I apologize that it isn't on the MTGS boards, but I've been part of MTGvault for a LONG time, and it just seems to be where I throw my decklists.
Anywho. Without further adeu... Nope! Chuck Teysa.
Gotcha. Was gonna say... Where is this, and how did I miss it?
But still. I'm counting down the days till Dragon's Maze starts getting spoiled and I get to see who they pop out for Orzhov. I'd honestly be okay with either a Teysa reboot or even a Milana, Orzhov Prelate.
Don't think they'd go with the unnamed orzhov assassin. Doesn't seem very champion-ish.
If we're getting them, which seems very likely, a new Teysa is practically a lock for Orzhov based on 1) her guild seniority and 2) spoiled new art depicting her.
Also. Aluren might be a good look at. Political for the board, late-game helps you but not your opponents. Also... Who doesn't love vomiting 5 rats on the board at the end of your opponent's turn.
So. Here's the deal. I'm used to playing Thraximundar, Teeg, and Omnath as my commanders. I used to have, however, a Teysa deck that I pulled an idea from off MTGVault.com. Needless to say it sucked.
I came to MTGS and searched up some Teysa decks and managed to figure out some other ideas. My Meta loves playing with indestructibility which is why I originally went the route of Thrax with his sacrificing ability, as well as other cards that force opponents to sacrifice.
The problem i've found with this is that they tend to sacrifice off chump tokens that are indestructible that doesn't do me ANY good. I was looking for a way to take care of the creatures with indestructible that I wanted to choose, not them.
If you guys/gals see any other infinites, let me know. I have yet to play test this with my group. Also... I'm looking to eliminate some creatures that are expendable.
So. Here's my a take at a Teysa, Orzhov Scion EDH deck.
I want a Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth but don't have the money for one. However I'm still looking for some fine tuning cards to throw into it to make it better. Totally open to all suggestions on this front.
I guess I'll pop the cherry. Let's get the Orzhov Master's take on the newly spoiled Theros God.
That being said, I always look at some other cards too. I try to keep my Teysa deck to a theme, that of my deck being a church. So I only try to use shamans, monks, clerics, and spirits. I do have the small exceptions if they are too good to exclude.
One such cleric that I think you might want to have a look-see at is Doomed Necromancer. It's amazing graveyard recursion, bringing something back to the battlefield. It's black which nets you a spirit. And it combos well with Reveillark. It is also pretty awesome with Sun Titan. But it's something to look towards. I run Rotlung so I have a pretty heavy cleric package, to get the most out of him.
I run a little harder on the swarm strategy as a secondary win-con, when I can't draw a sac outlet to save my life and I have 15 spirits sitting on the board and nothing worth exiling. Worst comes to worst, I sac three spirits with a grave pact and force everyone else.
Anywho. In looking at your list and how it goes a little harder on the drain strategy. Have you considered running Debt to the Deathless? It fits your drain strategy well. It wins me games constantly. Have ashnod's out? Good. Have 10-15 creatures to sac (Which this deck can do)? Great. Have 4 mana open? End the game.
If you ensure that no one can drop a counter spell... sac all 10-15 to ashnod's. There's 20-30 mana right there. Pump that into a Debt to the Deathless with it's 4 color cost. 20-30 X Debt... Deals twice that to everyone. And you gain that life back.
It's a really amazing late-game card, where I notice this deck tends to weaken. You can be staring down the barrel of a loaded gun with a sliver of life left and three players wanting to kill you. Have the creatures? Use 'em.
And actually, Schondetta, if you don't mind looking at TappedOut... here's the link to my deck.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/nope-chuck-teysa-mk-iv/
Ninja Edit: In case you were wondering... I have a very artifact/enchantment heavy meta. Thus the reason for the numerous hate spells. I tried to go for "exile target artifact/enchantment" effects, because recursion. it's a *****.
Blind Obedience has been on the chopping block and the only reason the axe hasn't come down, is that people in my meta love their haste. Field of Souls is a mini-combo with Teysa and Reassembling. Say you have 6 mana, a Phyrexian Altar, Field of Souls, Teysa and Reassembling. Not a bad board. Sac Reassembling Skeleton to Phyrexian altar for a black mana, tap one, recast him. Do this all the times. You get 2 spirits each sac.
So per turn you're looking at 12 spirits. High Priest is getting chopped, that's for sure. Bloodline keeper is too much fun. Especially since I'm saccing CONSTANTLY.
I might pull out High Priest for Necromancy because the combo that gets with sun-titan. But I'll keep a look-out. Thanks again, man. Checked out your GCO and got some more ideas, so I'll have to make a list of maybes and go from there.
... Yeah. I'm waiting on my buddy to hook me up with his godless shrine and marsh flats. He's just being stubborn at the time. As for Knight Captain, Sheoldred and Necromancy. What would you recommend taking those out for?
s'all good, buddy. get better!
I'm kind of a new-comer when it comes to the MTGSalvation boards, at least in the posting department. But, ya know. I've been lurking for awhile.
You seem to be the top dog when it comes to Orzhov colored decks. So I'm looking for your comments on my Teysa deck. I apologize that it isn't on the MTGS boards, but I've been part of MTGvault for a LONG time, and it just seems to be where I throw my decklists.
Anywho. Without further adeu... Nope! Chuck Teysa.
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Gotcha. Was gonna say... Where is this, and how did I miss it?
But still. I'm counting down the days till Dragon's Maze starts getting spoiled and I get to see who they pop out for Orzhov. I'd honestly be okay with either a Teysa reboot or even a Milana, Orzhov Prelate.
Don't think they'd go with the unnamed orzhov assassin. Doesn't seem very champion-ish.
Can we get a link on the spoiled new art?
I mean. Come on.
I came to MTGS and searched up some Teysa decks and managed to figure out some other ideas. My Meta loves playing with indestructibility which is why I originally went the route of Thrax with his sacrificing ability, as well as other cards that force opponents to sacrifice.
The problem i've found with this is that they tend to sacrifice off chump tokens that are indestructible that doesn't do me ANY good. I was looking for a way to take care of the creatures with indestructible that I wanted to choose, not them.
Granted... I am kind of a douche, so I did put an infinite combo in there revolving around Darkest Hour+Blasting Station+Teysa, Orzhov Scion and a random black creature.
If you guys/gals see any other infinites, let me know. I have yet to play test this with my group. Also... I'm looking to eliminate some creatures that are expendable.
So. Here's my a take at a Teysa, Orzhov Scion EDH deck.
3 Teysa, Orzhov Scion
Creatures - 29
1 Mikaeus, the Lunarch
2 Mother of Runes
3 Soul's Attendant
4 Bloodghast
5 Reassembling Skeleton
6 Dark Imposter
7 Fleshbag Marauder
8 Rotlung Reanimator
9 Twilight Drover
10 Vampire Nighthawk
11 Academy Rector
12 Bloodline Keeper
13 Dimir House Guard
14 Falkenrath Noble
15 Hero of Bladehold
16 Springjack Shepard
17 Deathbringer Liege
18 Divinity of Pride
19 Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
20 Reveillark
21 Sadistic Hypnotist
22 Grave Titan
23 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
24 Skeletal Vampire
25 Sun Titan
26 Yosei, the Morning Star
27 Butcher of Malakir
28 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
29 Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter
1 Darkest Hour
2 Edge of Divinity
3 Bitterblossom
4 Intangible Virtue
5 Seal of Cleansing
6 Attrition
7 Righteous War
8 Soul Link
9 Field of Souls
10 Grave Pact
11 Leyline of the Meek
12 Black Market
13 Cather's Crusade
14 Debtor's Knell
Instants/Sorceries - 14
1 Condemn
2 Enlightened Tutor
3 Path to Exile
4 Swords to Plowshares
5 Demonic Tutor
6 Diabolic Intent
7 Idyllic Tutor
8 Unmake
9 Damnation
10 Dread Return
11 Wrath of God
12 Increasing Ambition
13 Unburial Rights
14 Identity Crisis
1 Expedition Map
2 Sol Ring
3 Ashnod's Altar
4 Blasting Station
5 Phyrexian Altar
6 Eldrazi Monument
Planeswalkers
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Lands - 35
1 Bojuka Bog
2 Command Tower
3 High Market
4 Isolated Chapel
5 Kor Haven
6 Orzhov Basilica
7 Phyrexian Tower
8 Salt Flats
9 Serra's Sanctum
10 Tainted Field
11 Temple of the False God
12 Plains x12
13 Swamp x 12
7 Thraximundar
Tutors
2 Demonic Tutor
4 Diabolic Tutor
5 Corpse Harvester
5 Increasing Ambition
Sacrificing is Fun
0 Phyrexian Tower
3 Attrition
3 Fleshbag Marauder
4 Grave Pact
5 Slave of Bolas
5 Syphon Flesh
5 Call to the Grave
5 Grimgrin, Corpse-Born
Graveyard Recursion
0 Unholy Grotto
1 Gravecrawler
1 Reanimate
2 Oversold Cemetery
2 Stitch Together
3 Coffin Queen
3 Lord of the Undead
3 Victimize
5 Living Death
5 Patriarch's Bidding
5 Cruel Revival
5 Rise from the Grave
5 Phyrexian Delver
5 Havengul Lich
6 Gravespawn Sovereign
Evasion
0 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
2 Sleeper's Robe
2 Cover of Darkness
3 Zombie Trailblazer
3 Unbreathing Horde
4 Soulless One
4 Mortivore
5 Lightning Reaver
6 Grave Titan
Zombie Ringmasters
3 Cemetery Reaper
3 Diregraf Captain
3 Zombie Master
3 Death Baron
4 Undead Warchief
6 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
Tech Zombies
2 Withered Wretch
3 Lich Lord of Unx
4 Vengeful Dead
4 Fatestitcher
5 Noxious Ghoul
5 Vengeful Pharaoh
Acceleration
1 Sol Ring
3 Obelisk of Grixis
5 Black Market
Board Wipes
4 Damnation
6 Life's Finale
7 All is Dust
8 Alpha Brawl
9 Blasphemous Act
Clones
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Evil Twin
Zombie Trix
4 Endless Ranks of the Dead
6 Rooftop Storm
Counter-Magic
2 Counterspell
3 Spell Crumple
3 Undermine
3 Hinder
2 Swiftfoot Boots
2 Sundial of the Infinite
Miscellaneous Zombie Magic
3 Blightning
3 Backlash
3 Sadistic Sacrament
4 Leyline of Anticipation
5 Curse of Echoes
Thrax's P.I.C.
8 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Non-Basic Lands
0 Bojuka Bog
0 Drowned Catacomb
0 Sunken Ruins
0 Akoum Refuge
0 Crumbling Necropolis
0 Graven Cairns
0 Tainted Peak
0 Crosis's Catacombs
0 Tresserhorn Sinks
0 Rakdos Carnarium
0 Blood Crypt
0 Underground River
0 Watery Grave
0 Frost Marsh
0 Dimir Aqueduct
0 Jwar Island Refuge
0 Tainted Isle
0 Sulfurous Spring
0 Dragonskull Summit
0 Command Tower
0 Ancient Ziggurat
Basic Lands
0 Swamp x5
0 Mountain x2
0 Island x2
I want a Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth but don't have the money for one. However I'm still looking for some fine tuning cards to throw into it to make it better. Totally open to all suggestions on this front.
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