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  • posted a message on [FTQ Game] Amistarian Mafia III - Game Over!
    Final Vote Count:

    Fadeblue (4) - Cyan, Iso, Zionite, PopeRonPaul

    With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    And thus concludes the voting, the scheming, the lynching, and the killing. Fadeblue is the last of the traitors, she is Valora, Mafia Courtesan. Her tale is a sad one, but nothing which justifies the murders and treachery which ensued.

    The remaining members of the consort make their way to Damalar to meet with Syra, leader of the Amistarian forces. It is a motley crew, headed by the lone remaining member of any martial standing - Tallen, Town Knight-General (Cyan). Along with him are Wesley, Town Cook (Iso), Zeebo, Town Jester (Zionite), Nessa, Town Handmaiden (Archmage Eternal), and Shaina, Town Vanilla (PRP).

    Upon reaching their destination, the small band is met with surprise from the Amistarian forces.

    "Where is your King?" demands a wary Wizard of Amistar.

    "There is much to tell, and all the time in the world to tell it." a weary Tallen replies.

    "Should we shoot them?" queries Fiona, an Amistarian archer.

    "No." Syra responds wryly, stepping out from behind her bodyguards. "I sense a great trouble upon these folk, and we should add no burden to it. Come, we have much to discuss."

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Peace. A treaty was quickly signed and the war concluded.

    This is the end of our tale.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Thanks to everyone who played or read along. I hope you have enjoyed it as much as I have enjoyed spinning it for you. A special thanks to Xyre, Ged, and Ganderin_Dan for their help in reviewing the games along the way.



    -The End.
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  • posted a message on [FTQ Game] Amistarian Mafia III - Game Over!
    In the interest of time with the upcoming outage, and because all night actions are in, I'm going to start Day 6 now.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Found dead this morning was Taredas - Julian, Town Vanilla.

    He was stabbed in the chest and as usual, there was no blood.

    It is now Day Six!

    With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch!
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  • posted a message on [Mini Game] Cross-Town #1 - The Naked City Mafia [Game Over]
    @dC: See Cyan's note about his attitude re: KoL. I commented on Cyan's odd behavior today, which I'm trying to sort out yet. His Cyouni vote is terrible (inasmuch that I don't think Cyouni is scum), but I don't see a reason for scum!Cyan to be hopping wagons here unless he's scum with you.

    @Nacho: That's a fair assessment. I won't bore you with details, but suffice it to say I'm busy and this is way down the priority list.

    Voxx needs to claim. The "I'm not claiming for the good of the team" ship has sailed.
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  • posted a message on [FTQ Game] Amistarian Mafia III - Game Over!
    It is a rather quick day.

    Axelrod is tossed to the ground, a trace of blood flows from a cut near her lip.

    "Curse you all!" she screams out. "If it weren't for you meddling fools, I would've had the revenge for what that wench did to my mother!"

    Confused, the group stares at her.

    "Psonja. Psonja!"

    Axelrod gets a crazy look in her eye.

    "She wiped out nearly half the tower before Vincent and his little puppet Syra staged a coup. I was going to kill that-"

    "You'll be doing nothing of the sort." came a voice behind her, cracking her over the skull with a rock.

    Axelrod was Danya, Mafia Sorceress.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    It is now Night 5.

    Actions are due no later than Wednesday, September 18th, at 8pm ET.

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  • posted a message on [FTQ Game] Amistarian Mafia III - Game Over!
    Vote Count:

    Axelrod (5) - Taredas, Zionite, Iso, Cyan, Archmage Eternal
    Zionite (2) - PopeRonPaul, Axelrod

    With 8 alive, it is 5 to lynch.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    That is a lynch. Scene forthcoming; please stop posting.
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  • posted a message on [FTQ Game] Amistarian Mafia III - Game Over!
    L2Vote Count, bro:

    Axelrod (4) - Taredas, Zionite, Iso, Cyan
    Zionite (2) - PopeRonPaul, Axelrod

    With 8 alive, it is 5 to lynch.
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  • posted a message on [Mini Game] Cross-Town #1 - The Naked City Mafia [Game Over]
    I HATE NESTED QUOTES .

    Fixed:

    Quote from desCoures
    @DYH

    Quote from DYH
    @Vi:

    dC is an exceptional town player. Given my thoughts thus far, I'm not seeing the typical results, hence the suspicion.


    Oh, really?

    That sounds rather unlike what you said here, which distinctly reads like you disagree with what llamarble said. You know, where llamarble says basically the exact same thing you say here.

    And what exactly are the 'typical results', pray tell?


    That post is a week into the game. I certainly didn't agree that you should be dead from a lynch, and I suspect llama wasn't aware/used to your play style of the once-a-day-content dumps.

    As far as "typical results" - much better reads. This is clearly subjective in part because of how I feel about people who aren't dead yet (llama, Thor).

    Quote from dC »
    Quote from DYH

    @dC:

    See above re: Cyouni + Nacho.

    Re: KoL - I recall you poking at her in the early game, and then later harping on Cyan for his read on her. His read was founded in her early play, because he was on her case all day long; feels inconsistent.


    Two things -

    Firstly, yes, I poked at her in the early game. Like less than a hundred posts in, because she was doing nothing and then went V/LA. And then when she actually started contributing I was pretty sure she was town. What's inconsistent there?

    Likewise, because I had a town read on her after that, I 'harped on Cyan' for his apparently unchanging read of her - especially since, as I noted in my review, he was not, in fact, 'on her case all day long'. What's inconsistent there?

    (Answer - nothing is inconsistent. You're making up points as you go along.)


    No, it's pretty straightforward. You had an issue with her play early, Cyan's read on her was pretty much all day long. Therefore, the two things were related. Not sure what there is to miss about this. We apparently disagree on Cyan being on her case "all day long", but I don't seem to recall one instance where Cyan wasn't including KoL as a lynch/vig candidate and harping on her play.

    Quote from dC »
    Quote from DYH

    As for the rest, your 890 comes on the heels of two votes for Fate in the prior five posts, so that reads a little insincere. The possibility of a scum roleblocker exists as it pertains to the poison-targeting.


    So are we playing what-ifs now? 'What if' there is a scum roleblocker. 'What if' I had some convoluted plan involving said scum roleblocker, when I could have easily exhorted him to shoot Voxxicus instead - or do you think Voxxicus and I are scum together after this whole rigmarole? Those aren't the words of someone looking for scum. Those are the words of someone looking to cast doubt.


    It's certainly possible, yes. I don't see reason to elaborate at this point, but my speculation isn't entirely baseless. You are right insofar that I hadn't thought the combinations through that far yet. I spent much of day one tied up in Thor, so to say I'm evaluating things in hindsight would be fair.
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  • posted a message on [Mini Game] Cross-Town #1 - The Naked City Mafia [Game Over]
    Quote from desCoures
    @DYH

    Quote from DYH
    @Vi:

    dC is an exceptional town player. Given my thoughts thus far, I'm not seeing the typical results, hence the suspicion.


    Oh, really?

    That sounds rather unlike what you said here, which distinctly reads like you disagree with what llamarble said. You know, where llamarble says basically the exact same thing you say here.

    And what exactly are the 'typical results', pray tell?


    That post is a week into the game. I certainly didn't agree that you should be dead from a lynch, and I suspect llama wasn't aware/used to your play style of the once-a-day-content dumps.

    As far as "typical results" - much better reads. This is clearly subjective in part because of how I feel about people who aren't dead yet (llama, Thor).

    Quote from DYH

    @dC:

    See above re: Cyouni + Nacho.

    Re: KoL - I recall you poking at her in the early game, and then later harping on Cyan for his read on her. His read was founded in her early play, because he was on her case all day long; feels inconsistent.


    Two things -

    Firstly, yes, I poked at her in the early game. Like less than a hundred posts in, because she was doing nothing and then went V/LA. And then when she actually started contributing I was pretty sure she was town. What's inconsistent there?

    Likewise, because I had a town read on her after that, I 'harped on Cyan' for his apparently unchanging read of her - especially since, as I noted in my review, he was not, in fact, 'on her case all day long'. What's inconsistent there?

    (Answer - nothing is inconsistent. You're making up points as you go along.)[/quote]

    No, it's pretty straightforward. You had an issue with her play early, Cyan's read on her was pretty much all day long. Therefore, the two things were related. Not sure what there is to miss about this. We apparently disagree on Cyan being on her case "all day long", but I don't seem to recall one instance where Cyan wasn't including KoL as a lynch/vig candidate and harping on her play.

    Quote from DYH

    As for the rest, your 890 comes on the heels of two votes for Fate in the prior five posts, so that reads a little insincere. The possibility of a scum roleblocker exists as it pertains to the poison-targeting.


    So are we playing what-ifs now? 'What if' there is a scum roleblocker. 'What if' I had some convoluted plan involving said scum roleblocker, when I could have easily exhorted him to shoot Voxxicus instead - or do you think Voxxicus and I are scum together after this whole rigmarole? Those aren't the words of someone looking for scum. Those are the words of someone looking to cast doubt.[/QUOTE]

    It's certainly possible, yes. I don't see reason to elaborate at this point, but my speculation isn't entirely baseless. You are right insofar that I hadn't thought the combinations through that far yet. I spent much of day one tied up in Thor, so to say I'm evaluating things in hindsight would be fair.
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  • posted a message on [FTQ Game] Amistarian Mafia III - Game Over!
    Vote Count:

    Fadeblue (2) - Iso, Zionite
    Zionite (2) - PopeRonPaul, Axelrod
    Axelrod (1) - Cyan

    With 8 alive, it is 5 to lynch.
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  • posted a message on [Mini Game] Cross-Town #1 - The Naked City Mafia [Game Over]
    @Vi: To answer your theory question:

    Allowing the scum to cut the day short by self-hammering can sometimes be detrimental. We tend to be pretty verbose, and there's more than one scum to catch most of the time - so no need to stop people from talking. Interactions around finishing off a lynch can be telling.

    Also it prevents quick-lose situations in the late game.
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  • posted a message on [Mini Game] Cross-Town #1 - The Naked City Mafia [Game Over]
    @Vi:

    dC is an exceptional town player. Given my thoughts thus far, I'm not seeing the typical results, hence the suspicion.

    @Nacho:

    Re: Cyouni & Fate - Cyouni was voting Fate prior to the end-of-day wagon; that's the one I'm referring to. IIRC, it was in response to a lack of follow-up other than "you didn't read all those games" as a reason to vote him.

    Re: Voxx - see post 966

    Re: Cyan - I have no idea why he's doing what he's doing at this point. I don't believe I have ever in my years of playing with Cyan seen him this humble. I don't mean that he's normally an arrogant jerk or anything, but to state that everyone in the thread is equal/better than him comes off as out of character. I don't know what to make of it.

    Re: your vote on end-of-day Fate wagon - you are correct, I failed to note that.

    @dC:

    See above re: Cyouni + Nacho.

    Re: KoL - I recall you poking at her in the early game, and then later harping on Cyan for his read on her. His read was founded in her early play, because he was on her case all day long; feels inconsistent.

    As for the rest, your 890 comes on the heels of two votes for Fate in the prior five posts, so that reads a little insincere. The possibility of a scum roleblocker exists as it pertains to the poison-targeting.
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  • posted a message on [FTQ Game] Amistarian Mafia III - Game Over!
    Vote Count:

    Zionite (2) - PopeRonPaul, Axelrod
    Axelrod (1) - Iso

    With 8 alive, it is 5 to lynch.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on [Mini Game] Cross-Town #1 - The Naked City Mafia [Game Over]
    Quote from Nachomamma8
    DYH, what is your T-->S list?


    TOWN

    Llamarble - confirmed use of ability, late-day data dump read strongly town, unlikely to be scum

    Cyouni - early on Fate wagon, that whole "you didn't read stuff" attack from Fate doesn't read as a bus

    Vierni - I really liked much of day 1 content, specifically around ideas on scumhunting given the cross-site interactions. Early on Fate.


    Nacho - liked the analysis posts once he came under pressure; some questionable voting history (Cyouni following Fate, Cyouni again today)

    Cyan - late wishy-washy behavior on Iso/Fate, bizarre behavior here Day 2 has dropped him down to a neutral read

    Voxxicus - was absent much of day 1 understandably, so not much to go on; slight hedge on the Iso/Fate end of day interactions


    desCoures - preferred Iso lynch to Fate, interactions with Thor, KoL, Llamarble aren't good

    Thor665 - duh

    SCUM
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  • posted a message on [Mini Game] Cross-Town #1 - The Naked City Mafia [Game Over]
    Quote from Thor665
    So we agree that your advanced notion of snark vs. sarcasm is bollocks?
    Cool.


    It's cute that you keep trying to strawman the entire argument into this and wave it all away as if the two posts I linked didn't already cover it.

    Quote from Thor »
    And now Cyourni wasn't pushing me "enough" to qualify for the list of people I had to make dead or attack...riiiiight. Gosh, it's amazing how everything just slides into place for scum Thor as long as we rule out the parts that don't agree with the theory case.


    It's amazing how the flips just slide into place for you to be scum, yet your version of events magically ignores that.

    Quote from Thor »
    So now the issue is how I "defended differently" evidence of this different defense is...? Because DYH said so, as far as I can grok - because up until now your explanation was the snark vs. sarcasm thing which you're now avoiding justifying (presumably because you realize it's indefensible and/or were making gak up and hoping it would smell sweet on the other side)

    I didn't defend differently. I called her case on my nonsensical and mocked her for it.
    That's what I did to Iso as well.
    It's what I did to you for a third.
    Heck, DGB's issue with me raised from a belief that I was bullying her, and now you want to say that somehow I decided not to bully her. Awesome, at least one of your cases is proven to be as derpy as I said it was, now it's only a hop, skip, and a jump away to full sanity when everyone will notice I was right about both.


    Which is interesting again because I pointed out earlier your inconsistency as it pertained to my case on you, and your belief that it "held internal logic". So which is it, Thor? Was it completely "derpy" or was it "logical"? Or were you just making stuff up as you went along? (Hint: I'm going with the last option.)

    And since you like semantics so much, no, Kami didn't accuse you of "bullying" her, she accused you of "gaslighting" her, painting her as a "blithering idiot" and a "policy lynch" candidate. Rather than attempt to intimidate her directly, you were trying to ruin her credibility from the get-go; presumably because she's familiar with you, and you didn't want the MTGSers to be persuaded by her opinion. It was basically character assassination from the second post you made mention of her.

    Seriously, who talks about a policy lynch five days into the game? Someone who's not interested in actually finding scum, that's who.

    Quote from Thor »
    Finally you actually toss self-awareness of my playstyle at me...when earlier when Iso noted self awareness you seemed to love that. Hint: everyone is aware of their playstyle...that's called having a working brain. As an additional addendum, I didn't actually change my playstyle via my self awareness, so...yeah, brilliant scumtell. Here's my new case on you, you're posting in the game thread - it's a thing....that makes just as much sense as your case.


    Iso scenario was different - he was actively admitting to playing differently because of people telling him his play style is annoying. I've witnessed that first-hand, and seen Iso's reactions to it. I believed him. To be fair, I'm pretty familiar with Iso - you, not so much.

    Quote from Thor »
    I also like how hung up you are on me pulling out the acronym on you. It makes me want to lynch you more. Pretty soon everyone else will notice that Cyourni doesn't actually look that scummy, and then we'll lynch you and I'll dance about on your grave. It'll be a fun date.


    You slapping OMGUS on me today for voting you is nothing more than an attempt to smear the attacker. It's been pretty obvious that I thought you were scum well before your vote on me, so your motive here is pretty transparent: you tried to get in front of me today knowing full-well that other two people hot on your case turning up town wasn't going to look good. And guess what? It doesn't.
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