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  • posted a message on WOTC Confirmed we will give the TWD cards in MTG universe version of cards on the list
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    Wait they changed to approximately 7 packs have a “the list” card? And 3 from mtg universe UB cards

    didn,t they say that MTG universe Ub cards will apear more often than the normal list cards?


    Not sure what you mean, but on the weekmtg Blake said they where gonna change the pull rates of the List cards so that a card from the list will appear in ~1/4 set booster. Half the time that List card will be a magic version of Stranger Things SL card so 1/8 set booster will have the SL cards.
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  • posted a message on WOTC Confirmed we will give the TWD cards in MTG universe version of cards on the list
    Blake said they are changing the list cards to appear 1 in every 4 packs and half of those will be the Universe Beyond cards which how we get the 1/8 packs.

    Question now is when the Magic-adjacent versions will come out. I'm guessing it's after the Street Fighter adaptations.

    Or maybe the set after New Capenna?


    They said in the article that they might have Universe Beyond be on the list for multiple sets so Dominaria Untied might already have the ST slotted in.
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  • posted a message on Stranger things secret lair spoiler and upcoming secret lairs
    Quote from Flisch »
    Quote from Flisch »
    The stranger thigns cards have been confirmed not to use "Friends forever" on their Magicized cards. So, they can't be functionally the same cards either.

    Which raises some questions about playing both in the same deck.


    As far as I can tell, the new stranger things cards not using "Friends Forever" is no different from a new Michonne card referring to Zombie tokens rather than walkers. The ability will be given a new coat of paint in the exact same way but it will be identical and you will end up being allowed to play Will with Not-mike even though will has Friends Forever and Not-mike will have "alliance" or some-such. Oracle will say that Friends forever = "Alliance" in the same way that it will say that Walker = zombie token or Mike = Not-mike.

    Is it messy? Hell yes.
    Is it also going to happen? Most likely.

    The issue is, if the ST and MtG versions are going to be functionally identical, friends forever will either be partner, which changes the cards to be able to paly together with all partner cards OR friends forever will be its own keyword thats otherwise identical to partner, but not interact with it, which is just confusing to be honest. Neither option strikes me as particularly desirable.


    From rules people on twitter they won't have partner, they want this group of cards to be useable together but don't wanna add into the normal partner pools for a lot of reasons.

    EDIT: one source: https://twitter.com/mtgaaron/status/1448667016986959879
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  • posted a message on Stranger things secret lair spoiler and upcoming secret lairs
    There is also this bit;
    https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/secret-lair-universes-beyond-update-2021-06-07

    The in-Magic versions will be available on The List, findable in Set Boosters for as long as players are still interested in opening them. To start, they'll appear on The List more frequently than other cards to make them easier to find. In the future, we may reprint these cards in other products—we'll have that flexibility.


    Which sounds they will also appear in sets after New Capenna.


    Quote from Mana Goat »
    **** partner. If you want to print this cash grab ***** at least don't pollute commander with that


    Unfortunately WOTC is very butt hurt over the fact that they do not have final say over format. Hence they keep making cards specifically to mess with it's rules.


    Oh totally, thats must be why Sheldon and the RC and CAG are brought in for most major commander products, consulted on card designs that mess with commander and why there are RC and CAG people who work at wizards.
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  • posted a message on Stranger things secret lair spoiler and upcoming secret lairs
    Quote from Ghurhgs »
    For those wondering, the Magic-flavored versions of these cards have a 1 in 8 chance of appearing in a Streets of New Capenna set booster.


    So are they Capenna-flavored cards?

    He said since The List isn't plane-specific, they could be from anywhere


    But they haven't spoiled them? They will be a surprise in Capenna?


    I'd assume they be part of the spoilers in some form much like other "extension" card or at the very least featured when they do the article with what which sets list will be.

    Mind flayer will be a Theros creature I assume.
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  • posted a message on Stranger things secret lair spoiler and upcoming secret lairs
    I like that the end results will give us another green-less commander option but I'd rather wait for the magic versions to come out.
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  • posted a message on Crimson vow previews start on October 28th
    Quote from Dontrike »

    They are right in that it feel fast as they are shoving in this set much quicker than they normally would though I have forgotten if this replaces the January set or if this is an extra set. It's so difficult to keep track of all the Magic stuff nowadays and what random stuff they change or throw in nowadays.


    Crimson Vow is the "January set" being moved up, they are shifting around the main sets release schedule and Crimson Vow being so close to Midnight Hunt is growing pains from this.
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  • posted a message on Crimson vow previews start on October 28th
    Quote from Xcric »
    still a little fast for my taste, another week or two later and it would've felt perfect


    Another week or two will be pre-release.
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  • posted a message on Innistrad Double Feature and Commander Collection Black
    Looking it up it seems this a WPN exclusive set (so only in game stores) which to me reads a lot more like something for game stores to buy and use for double feature drafts nights than players to buy and draft at home.
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  • posted a message on Magic: The Gathering Comic Book from Boom!
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    Quote from Flisch »
    But on the other hand, showing the return of Marit Lage only in a comic and not in the cards is enormously disappointing, in my opinion.


    Considering how a lot of time fans have asked about Marit Lage they have said something to the tune of "we have the eldrazi to use in this story space instead" I think they don't have any plans to use her in the main storyline and thats why she's even being used in the comic.


    Of all stupid decisions Creative has made, this is on the top dumbest

    Marit Lage is a long beloved character by fans AND rather distinct from the Eldrazi. This is not an Ulgrotha/Innistrad situation where the formed was so hated it required replacement; this is open waste of potential.


    I somewhat agree in that magic is so big I can believe in there are more eldritch horror things running around, I think the biggest factor here is Marit Lage was a minor "ooo isn't this mysteries" thing they had in ice age were as the eldrazi are more developed for both a lore and a mechanical/card theme.

    Granted one thing for all of to keep in mind is magic story telling runs on rule of cool and rule of popularity as well as creative being a shifting every changing team, how they feel now might change. If this comic is popular and such they might consider having Marit show up in the main canon.
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  • posted a message on Innistrad 3 story and lore- Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow
    The archangels deaths had no barring on the plot though and there transformation really wasn’t necessary either. Bruna, Gisela, and Sigerda were all active during avacyns confinement in the helvault and the plane was still in disaster. To my knowledge there are no eldrazi remnant on the plane so brissela would have been gone regardless of whether they were killed or not.


    The point of the archangels getting corrupted was to show why they couldn't help as much as Avacyn was going mad and why it was going bad for humans.

    The only difference between now and the dark ascension era of Innistrad is the moon.


    Not really, the vampires and werewolves where nearly wiped out by Emrakul, with only 2 howls packs left (and Tolovars is brand new) and 3/4 vampires families are in ruin as well as most of the demons on the plane been eldrazi'd and now gone as well.

    Avacyns death was just a plot device to get the plane back to square one just as ulamogs and kozileks were and plenty people were angry over that. I enjoy the monsters of Innistrad but I feel the lore of avacyn made for an interesting backdrop against it which I don’t really get with sigarda.


    And Avacyn was originally just a plot device to have the horror world get a happy ending. If you wanna really be nitpicky everything in writing is a plot device and it all depends on how the storyteller uses them.

    Also the reason people where upset about Ulamog and Kozilek was how built up the eldrazi where and feeling like that their deaths wasn't well handled/believable vs Sorin having built in a way for him to unmake Avacyn.

    Honesty a lot of this seems to be you confusing personal feeling and what is/isn't good writing.
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  • posted a message on Innistrad 3 story and lore- Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow
    Quote from Flisch »
    one of which happened offscreen (I'm not considering the trailers on-screen),


    Deck during the War of the Novel during his in his pov.


    TL;DR: The deaths of the archangels wasn't pointless and insulting. In fact, Innistrad was one of the better handled "staked" storylines in Magic's history, a balanced compromise between lasting damage and keeping the plane intact for future visits.


    There is also the fact with Avacyn they wrote themselves in a conner with no conflict able to happen meaningfully with her around, since at the time retuning to planes wasn't much of an idea for them yet. All future Innistrad stories would have to have whatever conflict either be somehow more powerful than Avacyn or have some reason she can't help her. Having Sigarda and the witches (and now reborn Liesa) helps make the conflict more even with maybe the monster a bit more on the winning side since horror.
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  • posted a message on Magic: The Gathering Comic Book from Boom!
    Quote from Flisch »
    But on the other hand, showing the return of Marit Lage only in a comic and not in the cards is enormously disappointing, in my opinion.


    Considering how a lot of time fans have asked about Marit Lage they have said something to the tune of "we have the eldrazi to use in this story space instead" I think they don't have any plans to use her in the main storyline and thats why she's even being used in the comic.
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  • posted a message on Innistrad 3 story and lore- Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow
    Quote from Caranthir »
    I dunno why but these Innistrad stories seem kinda Campy so far.


    I think it’s due to the passing and lack of depth to some of the wider storytelling elements.


    Everyone has heard of or knows one another already. Character knowledge or motivations are sometimes left unexplained or vague.


    it’s like the unfinished sketch of visuals/scenes meant for a movie (or Netflix show…) to flesh out more fully with derper dialogue, combat and world building.



    Yeah, exactly espressed. But this is the same persisting problem since the stories "restarted" with Zendikar Rising, and the main story is always crammed up into about six episodes.

    Kaldheim: Big battles happening offscreen or just seen in passing.

    Strixhaven: Big time jumps.

    But this is all the same - pacing and shallowness problems, just in different forms.



    The main stories all have been 5 parts and agreed the pacing is an issues, they need another chapter or two or have each chapter be longer length.
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  • posted a message on Innistrad 3 story and lore- Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow
    Final Midnight Hunt world building story; The Dusk Reborn by Rhiannon Rasmussen
    https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/dusk-reborn-2021-10-01

    Looks likes all those wanting the other archangels to be reborn/return will be disappointed.
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