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  • posted a message on Speculation for Return to Theros
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    I thought bestow was a little over costed, but it was the first go 'round for it, this time they know what it is and how it plays so they should be able to better cost it. Really looking forward to devotion and constellation. I think heroic has been superseded by prowess.

    Which gods you think make it in? I doubt they'll include all 15. If the story is about Elspeth and the underworld, you have to figure Heliod, Phenax and Erebos, possibly Athreos. The only way they 15 make it in is if they make some rare.


    I don't know. She doesn't look like a returned or undead in the picture we saw. They usually have darker skin almost dark grayish. So I don't think Phenax will play an important role. Well Heliod and Erebos should get what they deserve. If they add Gods than it will be in form of a cycle. So I think it will be the 5 major Gods (the mono-colored ones). I don't know if we will get gods as rares. It would be the first time.


    Phenax is the god of the returned in the sense he himself escaped the underworld and left a path for them to follow. He could has a role in this set.

    Ravos has been set up to play a role between the commander decks and the hint Dack gave regarding him in War of the Spark.

    Edit: Do we know if the pantheon we saw in the last Theros block is complete? I remember that Maro has written something that there is at least one missing one. God of Love or something like that. I would like to see something like Nike but Iroas has taken part of her domain.


    In lore the pantheon stabilized with 14 gods, the RG spot missing until Xenagos took that spot. In a story with Krupix he mentions how the gods are shaped by mortal belief and gods had been created and forgotten using a god of love as an example.
    Posted in: Baseless Speculation
  • posted a message on Theros: Beyond Death Elspeth
    As said before wizards feels like they could use Rome or another world and really that all that matters. A number of ways the trope space of rome could be used, imo not as its own world but as the flavor for a bottom up set (Kaladesh) or part of a faction (Tarkir). Similar to pirate troops I think Rome has enough for a section of a world but not as the only focus.

    Quote from Creedmoor »
    Hopefully we get some better mechanics this time around. Constellation and Devotion were good, but the rest were hot garbage in my opinion.


    I will always fight that monstrous, bestow and heroic are good as well, just got nerfed by development and strive is decent as a add on for heroic.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on My Little Pony silver-bordered crossover set releases Oct 12
    Not something I'd buy but this is a cute idea for a charity event. It will most likely be popular (two of the biggest franchises within Hasbro) which is great for the charity.
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  • posted a message on Theros: Beyond Death Elspeth
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    There's gotta be something in the Underworld's water: ever since she died, Elspeth's hair has been black.


    Its always been brown/black.

    https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/honor-bound-part-1-2009-04-23
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Theros: Beyond Death Elspeth
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    Her mask looks kind of like the guard of Godsend.


    Wasn't her mask made by pieces of Godsend? I believe that I read something like that.

    I know that most player want her to be white/black but I hope that she will replace Gideon as mono white Walker. We already have some strong (storywise) Orzhov Walkers with Sorin and Kaya. Kaya being in the Gatewatch, too.


    Same mono-white has the lowest number of walkers as well with only Teyo and Wanderer and sometimes Ajani (and maybe Nahiri).
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Theros: Beyond Death Elspeth
    You can see where Heliod stabbed her. D:

    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    Nifty! This feels like this preview is coming out too soon. Eldraine is not even out yet!


    Uhhh

    Theros revisit is not till 2020 maro said throne of eldraine is the last standard set of the year

    So the next set for winter is a supplement one (conspiracy 3/battle bond 2/modern horizons 2/un-set 4/ or whatever)


    Yeah Theros is the January set. I was more thinking that this is really early for a leak to come out.


    I'm guessing its an ad card from Eldraine.
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  • posted a message on Return to Theros Brawl Deck Speculation
    Quote from italofoca »
    Your prediction makes a lot of sense but if we take ELD as reference the brawl deck themes do not align with the set themes perfectly.

    RWB Knights. Perfect match.

    WUB "Artichantments". The theme exists in ELD but has no direct black support.[/card]


    I'm guessing it for faerie tribal that wants to use the new white faeries as well as some things i say below. Also in Ravnica 3 Orzhov and Azoruis has a cross-guild theme of flying matters

    GWU ETB. Does not exist in ELD.


    Plays well with adventure. You benefit from casting the creature side and can bounce them back so you can adventure again. Right colors with GW plus U to add in more cards and to maybe put in spells matter for the adventure side. He's also generic so while working with adventure you can uses other builds.

    BRG Aristocrats. Have some overlap with BG food stuff but not really.


    As you said food. Again right colors, added a third color to open things up and is generic enough that you don't have to use food but it certain works and is in theme.
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  • posted a message on Wizards really does like to waste plot threads don't they?
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    With Garruk being cursed now, the (post)gatewatch era being a thing and Elspeth supposed rescue coming up next it might be that Wizards is now trying to collect all those stray plotlines and weave a more coherent and planned story from now on.


    They said that was a goal of the creative team going forward as part of the gatewatch-era story telling. The pacing of having 3 set blocks and switching in-between characters had a lot of storylines dragging as well as you said creative tossing out long running storylines threads without really knowing where they where going. Thats why since the gatewatch era we got Chandra past with her home fixed up, Jace's memories back, Liliana demons deals are done and Garruk been cured after 10 years of those storylines going on, as well as the ends of the eldraiz and Bolas arc as big bads which haven't been going for much shorter.

    Garruk storyline issue was also a mess how looking back. It started with the webcomics which gave us his origins, fight with Liliana and leading Jace to Zendikar. Next was gonna be a novel featuring him and Liliana about the chain veil that got canceled so whatever storyline there was shelved. I'd think elements got used for Innistrad but again no novels so we got the barest of bones of story for him (with only his getting worse and fighting Liliana of note). Then we got the his core set in which the story is shakey canon-wise as it was a game with the two UR as the hard canon. So now 10 years of him being cursed I think it was good they finally just had that storyline wrapped up. Also add in that since he was the mono-green core set walker for so long many people thought he had already been cured or didn't know he was cursed or think it didn't happen until Innistrad.

    Looking forward I think the cured Garruk has more to go. We don't need to keep thinking of the ticking time clock of him getting worse, it makes him a more active agent as a character, its showing growth as he learns to trust people through the Kenrith family and depends on how War of the Spark 2 goes with Liliana and the gatewatch it add a better dynamic. If Garruk was cursed and going mad would be easy for the gatewatch to side with Liliana and stop him and will now have the settings up of a more complex conflict.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on ELD- Eldraine Flavor Inspirations
    Quote from TauZ »
    Does the cinematic trailer count here? I think it should.
    Aside from the general Shrek vibe, it has referenced the poisoned apple as well (and someone has already tasted it, apparently). And well, it seems the three little pigs have met their fates.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzBrfW7Ipzg&t=26s




    If I can I'd do a mini scene by scene looking for those things.
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  • posted a message on ELD- Eldraine Flavor Inspirations
    After a new job keeping and 2 hour of typing being lost I will get the OP more up to date with more details but I will try to list out all the card, the stories and tropes they are based on then filling in more info.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on [ELD] the rest of the cards and magic players played happly ever after
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    UgH WiZaRdS KeEpS rIpPiNg OFf dIsNeY aNd ShReK/s

    Queen of Ice looks nice and more of what I was excepting more from adventures. Having been in a production of the Snow Queen this will be a fun thing to show some old friends.


    She reminds me of Elsa, too--art--wise, and kind of ability-wise, lol


    If anything I see more Tilda Swinton white witch or a young version of Pathfinders Baba Yaga.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [ELD] the rest of the cards and magic players played happly ever after
    UgH WiZaRdS KeEpS rIpPiNg OFf dIsNeY aNd ShReK/s

    Queen of Ice looks nice and more of what I was excepting more from adventures. Having been in a production of the Snow Queen this will be a fun thing to show some old friends.
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  • posted a message on evaluating Adventure creatures in Commander
    I see them more being used as module spells. I plan on running a few in my Will and Rowan deck for flavor and that it helps with the balance of spells (theme of the deck) and creature by having both and I think thats what they will end up being.

    Chulane, Teller of Tales works well for a commander for them but as ilovesaprolings said so far there isn't really enough of them or a good enough benefits for playing them to make a commander deck, IMO it really hurts the enablers that they don't also trigger off the adventure side being cast. I think a number could find homes in decks but not as an adventure deck.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Mothership 9/19 - happily ever after
    Quote from CatParty »
    I thought it was hinted that Happily Ever After would be a card to breath new life into mono-white in EDH... this can't be accomplished in a mono-white deck. Maybe I misunderstood.


    Iirc it was linked to white and card draw in commander. So I'm guessing white can get "all players" draw card effect now. Maro has also said it was a minor thing.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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