Thanks for the clarification. I honestly missed some of those. Makes me see the fatigue. Will be interesting if they can make it unique enough to make it worth it.
Will be interesting with the Elves. Been 12+ years since last elf precon was released. There are a ton of $3-5 elves out there. This isn’t “new” since I can find at least two other mono-green, but a twist and chance to bring back some oldies. I wonder if this will spike demand for allosaurus shepherd even more?
Opening whole booster box, I got 7 cards from the set, aka used toilet paper. Gigantosaurus was a rare, rest were worthless commons, uncommon. Total value about $3.
Got 3-4 packs w 3 races, and two showcase crabs. I was lucky to pay “normal” booster box price. It was not worth a premium.
The concern w this is lack of testing. Often, bans happen because lack of testing from Wizards misses a powerful interaction between cards. If you “retroactively” increase standard, things that may have been “safe” due to rotation may not play well. For example if fetches suddenly were still legal in landfall.
The one benefit “might” be a bigger card pool allowing more answers to exist.
This is an intriguing idea, but lack of testing a real concern. Also, the fact rotation already happened means many people dumped their cards and have to rebuy creating a “surge” to get former staples like hydroid krasis
I don’t like secret lair as a philosophy, but usually hang, “great new art, but not for me”. However, this time is hard with mechanically unique cards. Rick really screamed at me for human EDH.
Hate paying $60 after shipping and tax for just a handful of cards, but most of these running $30 each at retail right now.
Hoping to offload most of the rest to friends at LGS to share pain/cost.
Very frustrating to get a special product by “blackmail” versus “oooh, I want that”.
I’ll bet LGS lost a lot of money on M21 and Jumpstart for two different reasons.
M21 is getting so many variants w collector boosters containing borderless while set not being strong that inventory sitting on shelf.
Jumpstart was a demanded product that LGS got almost nothing initially and restock was 5+ weeks later while Target was getting new packs every week at a lower price.
If wizards values LGS, give them product to sell as a priority versus heavily discounted big box stores.
The problem is the “junk” factor ruins the “extra” factor. To get a standard common as a 1/6, is like being handed a used tissue. More effort to get rid of then value. It didn’t need for every card to be $5 card. But bring back “ok” commons no longer in standard versus draft chaff. Also weird to Print 1/2 or 1/3 of card groups. Helm only means other two pieces harder to get.
The idea is good, but would be better to cut list to 100, and make it 1/12 odds so you enjoy getting it.
Hydra’s get about one per set, every set. After the new commander precon, they have to keep supporting. Kinda like usually 1-2 angels & dragons unless something special.
With all the special editions printed lately, prices have become a real lottery. If you get the “ultra edition borderless collectors foil....” version of X, great super valuable. However the price of many other cards are deflated as everyone chases the hot ticket. Also, with COVID limiting cardboard tournaments, less demand for many cards right now.
Much of the value in current sets driving by the blinged out commander cards.
So should Wizards put on hold any new product(s) until everyone has job, savings, and a good plan for their future?
let’s not go that far. But how bout they deliver Jumpstart, which was three products earlier, to stores actually. My LGS has still only gotten 4 of the 30 boxes preordered.
Makes it hard to trust them and put deposit down when can’t produce cardboard.
Right now, wizards/distributors might be pushing the end of LGS too.
My local store got 4 boxes of Jumpstart at release out of 32 ordered. Promised to get 40 week two. In last two weeks, they have gotten zero.
Meantime, Walmart/Targets have been getting 30-50 per store.
The question brought up, do they send to big box stores since they know they can pay, but deprive LGS of the ability to make sales Resulting in failure?
With no tournaments, sales limited, but without product, no sales.
ancient greenwarden
Yarok, the Desecrated
Brushfire Elemental
You will need certified judge to answer the question correctly.
Cheaper than swords and protection from everything you want except yourself.
Got 3-4 packs w 3 races, and two showcase crabs. I was lucky to pay “normal” booster box price. It was not worth a premium.
The one benefit “might” be a bigger card pool allowing more answers to exist.
This is an intriguing idea, but lack of testing a real concern. Also, the fact rotation already happened means many people dumped their cards and have to rebuy creating a “surge” to get former staples like hydroid krasis
Hate paying $60 after shipping and tax for just a handful of cards, but most of these running $30 each at retail right now.
Hoping to offload most of the rest to friends at LGS to share pain/cost.
Very frustrating to get a special product by “blackmail” versus “oooh, I want that”.
M21 is getting so many variants w collector boosters containing borderless while set not being strong that inventory sitting on shelf.
Jumpstart was a demanded product that LGS got almost nothing initially and restock was 5+ weeks later while Target was getting new packs every week at a lower price.
If wizards values LGS, give them product to sell as a priority versus heavily discounted big box stores.
The idea is good, but would be better to cut list to 100, and make it 1/12 odds so you enjoy getting it.
That would make it more random and more balanced.
Much of the value in current sets driving by the blinged out commander cards.
let’s not go that far. But how bout they deliver Jumpstart, which was three products earlier, to stores actually. My LGS has still only gotten 4 of the 30 boxes preordered.
Makes it hard to trust them and put deposit down when can’t produce cardboard.
My local store got 4 boxes of Jumpstart at release out of 32 ordered. Promised to get 40 week two. In last two weeks, they have gotten zero.
Meantime, Walmart/Targets have been getting 30-50 per store.
The question brought up, do they send to big box stores since they know they can pay, but deprive LGS of the ability to make sales Resulting in failure?
With no tournaments, sales limited, but without product, no sales.