Quote from Obazervazi »Calm Down. I absolutely love wild demons with crazy drawbacks, but that's not the only correct way to design a demon. Plenty of people want to play demons without committing to an often unpleasant gimmick, just like dragons and angels. Your favorite kind of demon is not the only correct kind, because you're not the only Magic fan in the world.Quote from Werewolf_Rawr »Quote from DJK3654 »Quote from Werewolf_Rawr »So they just slapped Demon on each card type and put some horns in the art. Nothing about the cards has anything demonic mechanically. Zero downside. Zero additional costs to cast like life or resources. Oh how far magic flavor has fallen.
Demons haven't been required to have downsides or additional costs for a while now and I don't see any reason they should.
That’s the whole point. They used to have some mechanically unique qualities that identified them as demons. Now they’re just angels with black mana and that’s boring.
At the very least, some recent demons require you to pay life or sacrifice a creature to get their abilities.
These have no demonic identity. You could remove that word entirely and the card wouldn’t be any different - you’d never be able to differentiate it from anything by else.
Seriously, that's like insisting that every hydra has to be a 0/0 with counters and every rebel has to be able to search for a rebel with +1 mana value. Mechanical gimmicks are fun and all, but they're just gimmicks, and R&D shouldn't be ruled by them. We'll see plenty of drawback demons in the future, so just be patient and let other people have fun, too.
Nobody needs to calm down because this is just a discussion. Ya know, one of those things where differing opinions are shared?
I’m also not blocking anyone’s fun by saying the card designs are uninspired and out of flavor with the identity that Magic had built for a creature type. What a ridiculous sentiment.
MTG had an identity in the color pie and creatures and spells used to reflect that. Of course that’s faded into ambiguity within modern design but that doesn’t mean it’s good. I’d argue that making MTG more generic might make it more accessible and simple but that’s not a great thing.
These creatures just happen to be the most recent and blatant examples of how little identity and uniqueness cards have today. It was much cooler when playing a demon meant making sacrifices of some sort to do. It’s much better for the role playing aspect of it and that’s more valuable to me. Of course that’s my opinion - but there’s no reason for me not to share that opinion.
Also, I don’t know if you said it or someone else did - but yes, hydras should have that 0/0 mechanic. It’s what MTG did as a foundation to give a hydra a unique play style and identity. Without that, a hydra is just another green creature and that’s not as much fun. Same concept for demons. If you like demons, then you should enjoy the risk in summoning them. Again, role play - that’s what used to set this game apart.
now, the only identity magic has are the rules governing turns, “mana”, and supposed balance. No wonder there’s such a spotlight on MTG’s identity through it’s power level and balance now. Because everything else that made it unique have been pushed aside.