Hey everyone. So, xbinox has decided to step down from his Elder Dragon position, which means we now have room for someone to take his place. If you are interested in becoming an Elder Dragon, please PM me, or simply reply to this message and you will be considered for the position.
I think I'm suitable for this now that Knightgeist and hatter are both Elder Dragons I feel alone I can give a good portion of my free time on doing something useful for our clan, just let me know what
Also, what about upping BlackMajic in rank? He's posting for quite a bit here
(Also, yay, more EDH for me tomorrow! I'll get to test my Mishra. Last time I tested, I heard that my deck was "terrible and made with bad taste". :D)
Good luck with the testing so Testing Wydwen for french
EDIT: Changed sig for something more "Game of Thrones", waiting for Xen's one. Like it? Also, I notice Knightgeist new awesome sig! Who made it? Check your avatar buddy, the one posted on Disappointing Sig. was a gif, yours is still
Yorus, King of TitansWUBRG
Legendary Creature - Titan God
Yorus, King of Titans has all abilities of all titans in all graveyards, exiled zones, command zones, and on the battlefield.
As long as Yorus, King of Titans is in the command zone, return all titans form all graveyards to the battlefield under your control at the beginning of your end step.
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Here is some food for thought: We're on the eve of a new set (Born of the Gods) and there may be cards put on/leaving the ban list. Anything you guys would like to see added or removed? Personally I just want to see Prophet of Kuphrix get the axe. Its the biggest clone target and is hard to remove in its colors (between counter spells and getting hexproof.).
About banlist... The french comitee banned Derevi, Zur, NO, Oath and Grim Monolith for 1vs1, and now people is killing themselves in the forum
4 people are probably better than thousands of people actually trying to adapt to a new meta. Banning the 2 best generals at the same time? Wow. I wonder how much time they put into the format WITH Derevi and WITHOUT Zuur, because there is no actual top-8 that could help to determine what would be the meta in such case. All could be done is assumptions.
And Grim Monolith, seriously? They playtested the format w/o Zuur and Derevi and that's the conclusion? Monolith is too strong? Wow... we should ban Basalt Monolith too now that we're at it. On what is this really based? All decks using it aren't warping the format at the moment of the ban. So it can only be based on the assumption that it would warp the format with Zuur and Derevi banned.
4 people versus the whole duel EDH world. How could 4 people be better at playtesting the meta than the whole rest of us? That's impossible. Even 10 or 20 people. You need more datas.
And why is Zuur so good anyway? There were still key cards to ban in the first place. There are a lot of them. I can't stand playing this format when you ban Edric, Zuur, Derevi and cards like Sensei and Natural Order but not Sylvan Library or Survival of the Fittest.
I guess you really want 2 cards combo to win in the format, like Helm-RIP or even Mikaeus-Triskellion. We will start playing Oloro packed with tutors and those combos and just try to win from there, also winning life every turn.
Just for answer at some of your points:
The 4 people didn't obviously take all the testing between them. Their "assumptions" are taken from MtgTop8, tournaments, forums and from testing on a big scale, so they basically change what the players believe is right to change for making the format better. If you look at Metagame, you can see that Derevi, with 335 played games, is the top tier, and from french forums I know that A LOT of players tested it intensively and came out with the result that she's bannable.
About the Monolith, I agree with Virtus that allowing a turn 3 Iname/Primeval titan/Prossh isn't in the purpose of the format, in the same way that Natural order wasn't. For this reason, Basalt Monolith is legal. Because it cost 3 and it doesn't read CMC0 add 1 in certain cases. It was just one of the rocks that escaped the "first mana accel ban".
I don't know how many members of the WotC are charged for the banlists in tournament legal formats, but following your reasoning, people would have the choice to decide to ban or play what they like. And still, someone in the "minority" would complain in that case.
About Zur: He was being "so good" since 2012, when the format was born. Do you think that Vanishing, Necropotence and Back to Basics were banned for other reasons? From the beginning the comitee is trying to keep contained the power of ZUr, but he still keep to steal top8.
And with that we will be creating an American Duel Commander. Information will be forthcoming. Time for the largest population of players to control the format.
Lol, because the best way to improve a newborn format is to scrap it and create a copy of it controlled by other people, that are a minority of the players of the format. We have an idea here.
Even if someone is disappointed for the new banlist, I'm sure that the RC of Duelcommander have tested and over-tested the format with the new changes, so I'm not worried about it.
About the sideboard question, are they really worth it? Having a sideboard means you'll put inside of it something like 3-4 cards for each matchup (Dunno, Dystopia, Death Mark, Lifebane Zombie and another wrath against GWx, for example).
My opinion is that sideboard isn't a good idea because, while permitting more "strategic" builds and meta adaptation, it would penalize the decks that cannot pack tutors for the sided cards, like G based aggro (Radha and friends), while black could have game-winning answers for 2 or 3 mana with tutors. And generally, the chances of DRAW a card you sided in without tutoring for it are very low, while this isn't true in the other formats where sideboard is legal.
First of all, I created a thread for this because I find that this is a really important news, so it have to be said out loud, and not just as a post on the Megathread.
So, the new changes from the Duel Commander official site are:
Personally, I see Oloro and Maelstrom Wanderer, along with Mono Black Combo (Grizzy, Iname or Skittles) and especially Marath becoming the new T1 of this format. Surely we'll see also a big return of Clique, Geist and Wydwen, now that the "Derevi Panic" is passed.
Thumbs up for ban of Natural Order and Derevi, not sure about Oath and Zur, but imho Grim Monolith was no problem at all in this format. Maybe I can undestand the ban of this last one for limiting the power of MW and Griselbrand in the new format, though.
EDIT: Oh, and also Jenara takes again her throne of "The Bant Lady"
I think I'm suitable for this
Also, what about upping BlackMajic in rank? He's posting for quite a bit here
Good luck with the testing so
EDIT: Changed sig for something more "Game of Thrones", waiting for Xen's one. Like it?
Good luck finding a titan
I know how you feel bro
About banlist... The french comitee banned Derevi, Zur, NO, Oath and Grim Monolith for 1vs1, and now people is killing themselves in the forum
Just for answer at some of your points:
The 4 people didn't obviously take all the testing between them. Their "assumptions" are taken from MtgTop8, tournaments, forums and from testing on a big scale, so they basically change what the players believe is right to change for making the format better. If you look at Metagame, you can see that Derevi, with 335 played games, is the top tier, and from french forums I know that A LOT of players tested it intensively and came out with the result that she's bannable.
About the Monolith, I agree with Virtus that allowing a turn 3 Iname/Primeval titan/Prossh isn't in the purpose of the format, in the same way that Natural order wasn't. For this reason, Basalt Monolith is legal. Because it cost 3 and it doesn't read CMC0 add 1 in certain cases. It was just one of the rocks that escaped the "first mana accel ban".
I don't know how many members of the WotC are charged for the banlists in tournament legal formats, but following your reasoning, people would have the choice to decide to ban or play what they like. And still, someone in the "minority" would complain in that case.
About Zur: He was being "so good" since 2012, when the format was born. Do you think that Vanishing, Necropotence and Back to Basics were banned for other reasons? From the beginning the comitee is trying to keep contained the power of ZUr, but he still keep to steal top8.
Lol, because the best way to improve a newborn format is to scrap it and create a copy of it controlled by other people, that are a minority of the players of the format. We have an idea here.
Even if someone is disappointed for the new banlist, I'm sure that the RC of Duelcommander have tested and over-tested the format with the new changes, so I'm not worried about it.
About the sideboard question, are they really worth it? Having a sideboard means you'll put inside of it something like 3-4 cards for each matchup (Dunno, Dystopia, Death Mark, Lifebane Zombie and another wrath against GWx, for example).
My opinion is that sideboard isn't a good idea because, while permitting more "strategic" builds and meta adaptation, it would penalize the decks that cannot pack tutors for the sided cards, like G based aggro (Radha and friends), while black could have game-winning answers for 2 or 3 mana with tutors. And generally, the chances of DRAW a card you sided in without tutoring for it are very low, while this isn't true in the other formats where sideboard is legal.
Just my 2c, hope you agree with me.
Oloro Doomsday is no joke at all, though. Embargo hits hard.
I think welcoming Sakura-Tribe Elder and his friends can also improve our matchup against Doran, giving us blockers.
My elves are crying
Seriously, with the ban of Derevi and Zur, Marath is now the most stable and strong T1 in french EDH, probably.
So, the new changes from the Duel Commander official site are:
Zur the Enchanter is banned as a Commander
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician is banned as a Commander
Grim Monolith is banned
Natural Order is banned
Oath of Druids is banned
Vanishing is unbanned
Personally, I see Oloro and Maelstrom Wanderer, along with Mono Black Combo (Grizzy, Iname or Skittles) and especially Marath becoming the new T1 of this format. Surely we'll see also a big return of Clique, Geist and Wydwen, now that the "Derevi Panic" is passed.
Thumbs up for ban of Natural Order and Derevi, not sure about Oath and Zur, but imho Grim Monolith was no problem at all in this format. Maybe I can undestand the ban of this last one for limiting the power of MW and Griselbrand in the new format, though.
EDIT: Oh, and also Jenara takes again her throne of "The Bant Lady"
Nope, shops on MTGS never cost money