Ob Nixilis Reignited is a 30 cent card. she is just a variation of him. yes, to the draw you get to proliferate, but unless it is a deck that uses this ability, it is just +1 loyality.
the minus 2 gives ur opponent mana instead of destroying it. yes it can handle indestructable, but thats nishe.
and ultimates that take ages dont count for me.
maybe she is not a 30 cent walker. but more than 1-2€ will also be overpriced.
and yet all revealed completed walkers are not worth a pack. that is so disappointing. you pull a mythic, you pull a walker, and it is trash.
was actually really looking forward to this set, yet it seems to have so many bad cards. and usually they start spoilers with the good ones. is it really just getting worse from now on ?
or am i to critical with these walkers ?
vraska is something like ob nixilis
lukka is a worse garruk
and in both cases u r supposed to pay 2 life or lose a turn ? ... come on
And the ultimate You just need one stinking proliferate after that ultimate to kill the player you targeted
If I'm reading it correctly, even if they have 0 poison counters, they get 9-*, which in some instances could be 9 outright. All you need is a Toxic 1 to hit and boof, GG.
That artwork though...She can sting me with her betrayal any day.
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Ob Nixilis Reignited is a 30 cent card. she is just a variation of him.
Since you are comparing her with Nixilis:
- her +1 has much more potential than Nixilis (+1 counters, -1 counters, other planeswalkers, charge counters etc. This is super useful especially for commander purpose)
- her mana cost is more flexible than Nixilis
- -2 is very versatile and you can target your own stuff if you need mana (ex: token decks). Not only get around indestructible but you can do her minus ability from 2 to 3 times in a row, something Nixilis can't do. That's huge.
- ultimate obv makes sense mostly in a infect deck but most of the PWs shouldnt be judge by how likely they reach their ultimate but how the immediately impact the board. Never mind that if you manage to do the -9 and then play another Vraska or making survive the first Vraska, she actually combo with herself with the proliferate and doesnt even really need additional sinergy with any infect card at all.
I don't know how much she will be played in Standard, by there are far much worse PWs than her. I would gladly play her in 1 or 2 of my EDH decks.
All you need is a Toxic 1 to hit
You don't even need that. Any proliferate effect (including her 0) do the work to kill the player.
Ob Nixilis Reignited is a 30 cent card. she is just a variation of him. yes, to the draw you get to proliferate, but unless it is a deck that uses this ability, it is just +1 loyality.
Unless you play the card in a deck that makes good use of its abilities it's not that good? Wow, it must terrible.
Being bad vs. Brutal Cathar is a big strike against it, but I do think the upside of hitting more creatures total and, but with the wider field of targets, the ability to use it two turns in a row, and the proliferate, this is better than Ob Nixilis Reignited (not saying much, I know).
I kind of like her for Artifact Cube. Proliferate will matter and -2 removal is removal. Win con via ultimate is really lame (takes 5 turns) but promising in a proliferate deck.
And the ultimate You just need one stinking proliferate after that ultimate to kill the player you targeted
nah... it's nowhere near Oko.
Oko's Elk ability was absolutely crazy because it was a PLUS ability..... and you had oftentimes a lot more of a reason to use it on your own stuff than this -2.
it's not anywhere near
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They "Officially" revealed Vraska's stuff and all that
the -2 is a slightly weaker version of Oko, Thief of Crowns +1 ability
And the ultimate You just need one stinking proliferate after that ultimate to kill the player you targeted
Ob Nixilis Reignited is a 30 cent card. she is just a variation of him. yes, to the draw you get to proliferate, but unless it is a deck that uses this ability, it is just +1 loyality.
the minus 2 gives ur opponent mana instead of destroying it. yes it can handle indestructable, but thats nishe.
and ultimates that take ages dont count for me.
maybe she is not a 30 cent walker. but more than 1-2€ will also be overpriced.
and yet all revealed completed walkers are not worth a pack. that is so disappointing. you pull a mythic, you pull a walker, and it is trash.
was actually really looking forward to this set, yet it seems to have so many bad cards. and usually they start spoilers with the good ones. is it really just getting worse from now on ?
or am i to critical with these walkers ?
vraska is something like ob nixilis
lukka is a worse garruk
and in both cases u r supposed to pay 2 life or lose a turn ? ... come on
If I'm reading it correctly, even if they have 0 poison counters, they get 9-*, which in some instances could be 9 outright. All you need is a Toxic 1 to hit and boof, GG.
That artwork though...She can sting me with her betrayal any day.
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Since you are comparing her with Nixilis:
- her +1 has much more potential than Nixilis (+1 counters, -1 counters, other planeswalkers, charge counters etc. This is super useful especially for commander purpose)
- her mana cost is more flexible than Nixilis
- -2 is very versatile and you can target your own stuff if you need mana (ex: token decks). Not only get around indestructible but you can do her minus ability from 2 to 3 times in a row, something Nixilis can't do. That's huge.
- ultimate obv makes sense mostly in a infect deck but most of the PWs shouldnt be judge by how likely they reach their ultimate but how the immediately impact the board. Never mind that if you manage to do the -9 and then play another Vraska or making survive the first Vraska, she actually combo with herself with the proliferate and doesnt even really need additional sinergy with any infect card at all.
I don't know how much she will be played in Standard, by there are far much worse PWs than her. I would gladly play her in 1 or 2 of my EDH decks.
You don't even need that. Any proliferate effect (including her 0) do the work to kill the player.
Unless you play the card in a deck that makes good use of its abilities it's not that good? Wow, it must terrible.
It also stops any death triggers. On the target itself or any board wide ones like Zulaport Cutthroat.
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And some where it's worse beyond giving your opponent 1 mana:
Brutal Cathar
Oni-Cult Anvil
Being bad vs. Brutal Cathar is a big strike against it, but I do think the upside of hitting more creatures total and, but with the wider field of targets, the ability to use it two turns in a row, and the proliferate, this is better than Ob Nixilis Reignited (not saying much, I know).
Oko's Elk ability was absolutely crazy because it was a PLUS ability..... and you had oftentimes a lot more of a reason to use it on your own stuff than this -2.
it's not anywhere near