After the Planeswalker deck exclusive cards, Gatherer lists the remaining 8 enters-the-battlefield-tapped common dual lands as cards 280-287. Presumably this was to keep them in standard with the original rotation plan. Do we know if these cards will be in the Amonkhet Bundle (fat pack) or somewhere else? Or is their appearance in the set an error on WotC's part? They are not listed in the number crunch and I haven't seen any other discussion of this.
I'm inclined to say this was a mistake: They would have at least shown the new Amonkhet art for these by now if they were in the set, and the other two cycle members are in the PW decks, as usual.
It's odd that they have the Amonkhet expansion symbol but use the previous artwork and flavor text. Somebody went to the trouble to mock them up so I'd be curious to know what's up with these. Because they reused Stone Quarry before finishing the entire cycle they'd have to do something like this to avoid reprinting the cycle (or part of it allied/enemy) in the fall set.
Huh, so this is how they can keep all 10 duals constantly in Standard without needing to carefully select which ones go in Planeswalker Packs. Putting the Amonkhet symbol on something clearly not from Amonkhet sure is ugly, though. They should've stuck with the "carefully select which ones go in Planeswalker Packs" plan.
Huh, so this is how they can keep all 10 duals constantly in Standard without needing to carefully select which ones go in Planeswalker Packs. Putting the Amonkhet symbol on something clearly not from Amonkhet sure is ugly, though. They should've stuck with the "carefully select which ones go in Planeswalker Packs" plan.
Definitely. It bothers me (way too much) that we're already getting a duplicate color pair.
Now if deck builders toolkit wasn't mostly unplayable in constructed people might actually care. I know it was made for new players, but so was portal and portal second age.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
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3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
It's odd that they have the Amonkhet expansion symbol but use the previous artwork and flavor text. Somebody went to the trouble to mock them up so I'd be curious to know what's up with these. Because they reused Stone Quarry before finishing the entire cycle they'd have to do something like this to avoid reprinting the cycle (or part of it allied/enemy) in the fall set.
Foul Orchard and Stone Quarry both have new art. Very weird. I wonder if this was something they decided to do in a rush at the last minute and didn't have time to commission new art.
Foul Orchard and Stone Quarry both have new art. Very weird. I wonder if this was something they decided to do in a rush at the last minute and didn't have time to commission new art.
Foul Orchard and Stone Quarry are in the Amonkhet's Planeswalker decks hence the new artwork & flavor text.
this was similar to something i suggested 4 years ago. make these taplands become basic so they can be played in any deck in any amount. of course, my idea is quite extreme. but it's the same sentiment that having these taplands always available is not a bad thing.
this was similar to something i suggested 4 years ago. make these taplands become basic so they can be played in any deck in any amount. of course, my idea is quite extreme. but it's the same sentiment that having these taplands always available is not a bad thing.
That I would be okay with, but really I wish they stuck with the Kahns block strategy of tagging that extra point of life onto the lands. I feel the lands need some kind of upside to be playable in this day and age, otherwise they might as well just stick with basics.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
AP 1/27/15: Great. I don't want land types or any other frills here. We need to suck it up and print lands we're okay using forever in everything while still giving us maximum future design space
I thought that just meant "lands we can reprint in any expert expansion". But then I had forgotten about the explicit mention of the toolkit. (since I haven't played constructed formats in a while)
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280 - Cinder Barrens
281 - Forsaken Sanctuary
282 - Highland Lake
283 - Meandering River
284 - Submerged Boneyard
285 - Timber Gorge
286 - Tranquil Expanse
287 - Woodland Stream
I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/amonkhet-release-notes-2017-04-14
Definitely. It bothers me (way too much) that we're already getting a duplicate color pair.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Foul Orchard and Stone Quarry both have new art. Very weird. I wonder if this was something they decided to do in a rush at the last minute and didn't have time to commission new art.
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That I would be okay with, but really I wish they stuck with the Kahns block strategy of tagging that extra point of life onto the lands. I feel the lands need some kind of upside to be playable in this day and age, otherwise they might as well just stick with basics.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
They basically said this when they were revealed:
Cubetutor Peasant'ish-Funbox
Project: Khans of Tarkir Cube (cubetutor)