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Listening to the latest Limited Resources podcast right now (September 14th) and didn't see a thread for this yet:

Golgari Decoy :3mana::symg:
Creature - Elf Rogue
All creatures able to block Golgari Decoy do so.
Scavenge :3mana::symg::symg:
2/2

Uncommon

I'm looking at their site and don't see a pic (yet). I hope it's okay to post this without a pic. I'm getting this information straight from the podcast, roughly 1 hour 30 min into cast.

Source: http://www.mtgcast.com/topics/mtgcast-podcast-shows/active-podcast-shows/limited-resources
Limited Resources #148

Seems fine for an uncommon, especially for limited.

edit: image added.

nice limited pseudo-overrun effect. carry on.

5 mana for 2 +1/+1 counters on the scavenge cost is a little high, isn't it?

Nice bomb in limited. Will probably end the game if you have enough dudes out.

Prized Unicorn was an okay card in limited, and this one has scavenge as a bonus. I think it is very good value card (for limited obviously)

Quote from foukas

Prized Unicorn was an okay card in limited, and this one has scavenge as a bonus. I think it is very good value card (for limited obviously)

Yup, strictly better Prized Unicorn (except in Unicorn tribal decks).

soo I WILL be drafting this...a lot....stoked were seeing what we'll be opening in limited

The latest batch of uncommons are great in limited, this is no different. Doesn't look very powerful but will play a big role in limited. Excited to see.

Quote from 00Shoe

Yup, strictly better Prized Unicorn (except in Unicorn tribal decks).

interestingly, this might be a case where the term "strictly better" is actually literally true. if we discount Mindslaver and Meddling Mage-type effects (which we should since they suck) and tribal boosts which there are none of, I can't think of a single conceivable situation where you'd prefer the unicorn. (contrastingly, it's pretty easy to think of situations where Shock is preferable to Lightning Bolt and the like)

Quote from TANE

interestingly, this might be a case where the term "strictly better" is actually literally true. if we discount Mindslaver and Meddling Mage-type effects (which we should since they suck) and tribal boosts which there are none of, I can't think of a single conceivable situation where you'd prefer the unicorn. (contrastingly, it's pretty easy to think of situations where Shock is preferable to Lightning Bolt and the like)

Engineered Plague set on Elf (Common creature type).

Never going to be sad to see this in my pool if I am green.

Quote from TANE

interestingly, this might be a case where the term "strictly better" is actually literally true. if we discount Mindslaver and Meddling Mage-type effects (which we should since they suck) and tribal boosts which there are none of, I can't think of a single conceivable situation where you'd prefer the unicorn. (contrastingly, it's pretty easy to think of situations where Shock is preferable to Lightning Bolt and the like)

Uh, what? Lightning Bolt is "strictly better" than Shock, in a strict sense. Sure, there may be corner-cases where a weaker effect is more desirable, but that doesn't change the definition of "strictly better." If you wanted to get very technical, this is not "strictly better" than Prized Unicorn, because it's not a unicorn. It would only be Strictly Better if it were a Creature - Unicorn Elf.

It's Prized Unicorn (a perfectly acceptable solid limited card) but in a better tribe (Elf over Unicorn) and with a 3GG Scavenge ability. Sign me up. While i'd never exactly windmill slam it, I can't imagine being unhappy to run it any limited deck with green in it.

mortipede was incredibly meh in ravnica limited. this is no different.

Can we get a confirmation from someone else who has watched the podcast please? It would be nice. I have added to the spoiler, but I did not watch the podcast myself. Since LR is trusted I went ahead and added anyway.

Also text confirmation... Shouldnt it be: All creatures able to block ~ do so, if able.

Quote from Justicarphaeton

Uh, what? Lightning Bolt is "strictly better" than Shock, in a strict sense. Sure, there may be corner-cases where a weaker effect is more desirable, but that doesn't change the definition of "strictly better."

that is literally what "strictly better" means

words mean what they mean

Why is the scavenge so bloody expensive.

Should have been a Scarecrow. On wheels.

I was actually hoping for one of these to pop up in this set. Just wanted a legal cheap way to get mini phages through for ensured kills (of course minus threats of instants or abilities).

Quote from dashogun

Why is the scavenge so bloody expensive.

The card already has plenty of utility for green decks due to its first ability, and it's one that implies that the creature probably won't live long. Afterwards, if you need to get some extra damage in, you can use the Decoy's scavenge ability.

So, in this case, the scavenge ability is icing on the cake.

Quote from Kryptnyt

Should have been a Scarecrow. On wheels.

Haha. That would have been funny.

Quote from yamateh

mortipede was incredibly meh in ravnica limited. this is no different.

Mortipede only had that effect if you paid an extra 3 mana, taking up most of a 2nd turn to get this effect. It is free this time, and you get a 2nd ability. It's not a 1st pick by any means, but you're rarely, if ever, cutting it.

Mana cost should have been GG1 at the most and it would have been interesting.
At it's current cost, finding room for it will be rough.

I've only ever played this effect with the 0/1 elf in dotp2013, and that card could close games. Happy drafting.

Anyone else find it odd that this fits better in selesnya swarm decks instead of golgari decks in limited?

The power level of this kind of creature is very format-dependent. Sometimes it is a defining common, like Shinen of Life's Roar or Deftblade Elite, sometimes it's just borderline playable like Mortipede. It really depends on a lot of factors - the speed of the format, the cost of the creature, the quality of auras and pump in the environment, the instant-speed removal available... really so much to discuss for a simple forum post.

This is a card that should have had Sadin's Limited Information devoted to it, rather than Grim Roustabout.

I think what makes this a solid pick in limited isn't that he himself has scavenge, but that it's in the same set/color with other creatures with scavenge. Imagine turning him into a 7/7 by scavenging that 5/5 dude. Ouch. Even making him a 5/5 with the 3/3 hasty dude can be really nasty and a potential lockdown. In this guild I feel like his utility is more as removal than as a method of alpha-striking. Although obviously he can do either.