I've asked Zesty about the Scornful Aether-Lich
and said was this:
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Scornful Aether-lich..... .is the creature that uses (B)(W) in his ability which gives him "Fear and Vigilence" ... he's not bad, 2/4 creature, artifact, (1)(3) CC.... just an average guy not to flashy, uncommon obviously.
So...
Scornful Aether-Lich 3U
Artifact Creature - Vedalken Wizard(?) (U) WB: Scornful Aether-Lich gains fear and vigilance until end of turn.
2/4
yeah I too love the card but I hate the name:-/. I mean, liches should only be reserved for powerful mages of black mana. not 2/4s that can attack and defend with decent efficiency.
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yeah I too love the card but I hate the name:-/. I mean, liches should only be reserved for powerful mages of black mana. not 2/4s that can attack and defend with decent efficiency.
While elsewhere that is true on esper Aether-Liches are those with too much Filigree on them.
Solid for 4 mana, ability is kinda Wonky though...there doesnt seem to be enough support for Esper in Conflux overall I think...:-/
My friend, please look over the Partial Spoiler. We've seen a little more than half the cards and I can say with relative confidence that the shard that is seeing the biggest improvement [thus far] in Conflux is Esper. I can see why it's not all that strong in Alara, cause the goodies are in Conflux. You will be heavily rewarded for being Esper in draft.
At common Esper is already looking at a possible 2/2 for 1, 1/2 flier for 2 that can hit for 3, and a 2/2 flier for 3 that can sap 2 life thanks to your turn 2 strix. Esperzoa at uncommon.....yeah Esper is in good shape for sure.
The Aether-Lich, however, likely won't see play in limited. In a format which has been fairly dry in the 4 slot, Esper is the shard that was likely to fill it up. At the four slot I'd prefer Gargoyles of both varieties and the 3/3 Insect that can sap 1 life for when an artifact enters or leaves play.
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The Aether-Lich, however, likely won't see play in limited. In a format which has been fairly dry in the 4 slot, Esper is the shard that was likely to fill it up. At the four slot I'd prefer Gargoyles of both varieties and the 3/3 Insect that can sap 1 life for when an artifact enters or leaves play.
You kidding? This guy is very good in limited. You are lucky to get even one tower gargoyle or more than 2 sanctum gargoyles in SSS, so there is not really an abundance of 4 drops. I'd be very happy to run this guy. Vigilance and evasion is a good combination and 2/4 is a very solid body.
Yeah, I agree on the word "Lich" being tossed around so loosely here. Since when were Lichs anything but awesomely powerful/dangerous? Disappointing.
That's because lichdom is usually intrinsically evil and thus undertaken only by those who are completely badass.
However on Esper it's an open and shut matter of using the tools available to enhance yourself. Being so common, it is as powerful as common wizardry, in the common mage.
What I find ridiculous is how this compares to Agents of Vectis. I don't know who the Vectis are, but they just lost a lot of PR if they can't compete with this guy.
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That's because lichdom is usually intrinsically evil and thus undertaken only by those who are completely badass.
However on Esper it's an open and shut matter of using the tools available to enhance yourself. Being so common, it is as powerful as common wizardry, in the common mage.
What I find ridiculous is how this compares to Agents of Vectis. I don't know who the Vectis are, but they just lost a lot of PR if they can't compete with this guy.
Indeed, that's an excellent answer. Here, the aether-liches are just normal wizards who used the filigree enhancements too much and became almost constructs in the process.
The type should be Vedalken Wizard. Only vedalken were said to be such filigree fanatics that they may go this far.
2/4 bodies costed at 4 mana in just one color are always premium in limited. In a multicolored set such as this one, this body will be picked early and often, even without activation mana. When the ability is used, you get a pretty hard to stop attacker/blocker. Good design and a decent card, although obviously not constructed worthy.
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He will see play, but there will be quite a few cards I prefer to play over him in the four slot.
Anyway, I guess we'll find out in a couple of months in terms of how he impacts draft.
With less boosters of Shards of Alara there will also be less of those four drops you prefer. My only concern is that 4 toughness might not be enough in this format where you're facing exalted attackers from Bant and heavy groundpounders from Naya.
I'm sorry... for the first time ever, I'm seriously unimpressed by all the cards that have been spoiled. I'm looking for sleepers and I can't see anything. Just... Limited cards... Limited... Just like Eventide. Nicol is alright. I like him. And people might try to use him in Standard. This one's a 50/50. Either he's good, or he's bad. He has no middle ground of being ok.
Then, I really like Ancient Ziggurat. If done right, this card can be an incredible card. But it's uncommon so at best he'll be a dollar or two.
I really like the Phoenix, he might see some play in a couple of rogue decks. If done right, it's price will reach the 8-12$ ground.
There might be a couple more, but this isn't the place for this... Oh and Thornling? Depressing. But still, playable. I wonder why it even got Haste. Haste? Meh.... Makes me sad.
At least there are at least 70 cards to go. Let's hope 50 of them are good for something other than LI-MI-TED!
I'm sorry... for the first time ever, I'm seriously unimpressed by all the cards that have been spoiled. I'm looking for sleepers and I can't see anything. Just... Limited cards... Limited... Just like Eventide. Nicol is alright. I like him. And people might try to use him in Standard. This one's a 50/50. Either he's good, or he's bad. He has no middle ground of being ok.
Then, I really like Ancient Ziggurat. If done right, this card can be an incredible card. But it's uncommon so at best he'll be a dollar or two.
I really like the Phoenix, he might see some play in a couple of rogue decks. If done right, it's price will reach the 8-12$ ground.
There might be a couple more, but this isn't the place for this... Oh and Thornling? Depressing. But still, playable. I wonder why it even got Haste. Haste? Meh.... Makes me sad.
At least there are at least 70 cards to go. Let's hope 50 of them are good for something other than LI-MI-TED!
Path to Exile, Volcanic Fallout, Banefire, Martial Coup, Esperzoa, Goblin Razerunners, Hellspark Elemental, Noble Hierarch, those are not just Limited fodder. Those are cards that will find a home in a deck, some of them in more than one.
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I'm sorry... for the first time ever, I'm seriously unimpressed by all the cards that have been spoiled. I'm looking for sleepers and I can't see anything. Just... Limited cards... Limited... Just like Eventide. Nicol is alright. I like him. And people might try to use him in Standard. This one's a 50/50. Either he's good, or he's bad. He has no middle ground of being ok.
Then, I really like Ancient Ziggurat. If done right, this card can be an incredible card. But it's uncommon so at best he'll be a dollar or two.
I really like the Phoenix, he might see some play in a couple of rogue decks. If done right, it's price will reach the 8-12$ ground.
There might be a couple more, but this isn't the place for this... Oh and Thornling? Depressing. But still, playable. I wonder why it even got Haste. Haste? Meh.... Makes me sad.
At least there are at least 70 cards to go. Let's hope 50 of them are good for something other than LI-MI-TED!
so you remain unswayed even by Banefire, Path of Exile, and Nyxathid?
Really I think conflux is much better than shards was in terms of constructed worthy cards.
that being said I actually really like the combination of vigilance and fear, I would love to see get more cards with this combination of abilities.
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and said was this:
So...
Scornful Aether-Lich 3U
Artifact Creature - Vedalken Wizard(?) (U)
WB: Scornful Aether-Lich gains fear and vigilance until end of turn.
2/4
Artifact Creature - Wizard(?)
WB: ~ gains Vigilance and Fear until EOT
2/4
Quite simple.
Scornful Æther-Lich :?mana::symu:
Artifact Creature - Zombie Wizard?
WB: Scornful Æther-Lich gains fear and vigilance until end of turn.
2/4
It's decent for four mana. At 3U, it makes a nice wall and evades through when you're ready.
It's odd to see fear on Esper, though. It only makes sense to punish the "outworlders." That would have to be the 'scorn' part.
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While elsewhere that is true on esper Aether-Liches are those with too much Filigree on them.
My friend, please look over the Partial Spoiler. We've seen a little more than half the cards and I can say with relative confidence that the shard that is seeing the biggest improvement [thus far] in Conflux is Esper. I can see why it's not all that strong in Alara, cause the goodies are in Conflux. You will be heavily rewarded for being Esper in draft.
At common Esper is already looking at a possible 2/2 for 1, 1/2 flier for 2 that can hit for 3, and a 2/2 flier for 3 that can sap 2 life thanks to your turn 2 strix. Esperzoa at uncommon.....yeah Esper is in good shape for sure.
The Aether-Lich, however, likely won't see play in limited. In a format which has been fairly dry in the 4 slot, Esper is the shard that was likely to fill it up. At the four slot I'd prefer Gargoyles of both varieties and the 3/3 Insect that can sap 1 life for when an artifact enters or leaves play.
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You kidding? This guy is very good in limited. You are lucky to get even one tower gargoyle or more than 2 sanctum gargoyles in SSS, so there is not really an abundance of 4 drops. I'd be very happy to run this guy. Vigilance and evasion is a good combination and 2/4 is a very solid body.
He will see play, but there will be quite a few cards I prefer to play over him in the four slot.
Anyway, I guess we'll find out in a couple of months in terms of how he impacts draft.
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That's because lichdom is usually intrinsically evil and thus undertaken only by those who are completely badass.
However on Esper it's an open and shut matter of using the tools available to enhance yourself. Being so common, it is as powerful as common wizardry, in the common mage.
What I find ridiculous is how this compares to Agents of Vectis. I don't know who the Vectis are, but they just lost a lot of PR if they can't compete with this guy.
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Indeed, that's an excellent answer. Here, the aether-liches are just normal wizards who used the filigree enhancements too much and became almost constructs in the process.
The type should be Vedalken Wizard. Only vedalken were said to be such filigree fanatics that they may go this far.
Vectis is the largest human city on Esper.
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Yeah I constantly get 4 Tower Gargoyle in limited this guy won't make the cut..
(/Sarcasm)
Anyways decent card for sure obviously made for limited.
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I'm sorry... for the first time ever, I'm seriously unimpressed by all the cards that have been spoiled. I'm looking for sleepers and I can't see anything. Just... Limited cards... Limited... Just like Eventide. Nicol is alright. I like him. And people might try to use him in Standard. This one's a 50/50. Either he's good, or he's bad. He has no middle ground of being ok.
Then, I really like Ancient Ziggurat. If done right, this card can be an incredible card. But it's uncommon so at best he'll be a dollar or two.
I really like the Phoenix, he might see some play in a couple of rogue decks. If done right, it's price will reach the 8-12$ ground.
There might be a couple more, but this isn't the place for this... Oh and Thornling? Depressing. But still, playable. I wonder why it even got Haste. Haste? Meh.... Makes me sad.
At least there are at least 70 cards to go. Let's hope 50 of them are good for something other than LI-MI-TED!
so you remain unswayed even by Banefire, Path of Exile, and Nyxathid?
Really I think conflux is much better than shards was in terms of constructed worthy cards.
that being said I actually really like the combination of vigilance and fear, I would love to see get more cards with this combination of abilities.