As the title suggests this is my first run at a vintage deck. No sideboard as of yet and suggestions would be welcome as to what I might put in it but I would greatly appreciate some ideas to help the deck or just your opinions on it.
Thanks,
-Sam
Originally Posted by Massive Marc
You know back in the old days, when there wasn't EDH, these "griefer" cards in decks were the norm. If you played a Winter Orb when you're opponents were tapped out, it was a good play. Now, you get people tell you they wanna punch you ? It's really sad how carebare this format is, to the point that some loser has to rip up your cards.
Rhystic Tutor seems suboptimal, Vampiric Tutor seems better. Sol Ring is another option. Looking above I would also substitute as Squappy and urweak suggested.
Here is a link to Budget list I mentioned awhile back, check my post midway down thru the page
suppose i'm a little confused as to why the Pact. i understand you want to go off and win in one turn, and that the more you can do to cast spells that turn the better, but it would only take one well placed Trickbind for the storm or even a Force of Will and youre done next turn.
Trickbind is seeing very little play in Vintage but it's certainly a consideration, but that's why you have Duress to clear the way. Force of Will doesn't stop Tendrils, it will certainly stop one copy but oftentimes you can storm for a few more points then you need "just to be sure" and the Pact will protect you from an errant Force.
Trickbind is seeing very little play in Vintage but it's certainly a consideration, but that's why you have Duress to clear the way. Force of Will doesn't stop Tendrils, it will certainly stop one copy but oftentimes you can storm for a few more points then you need "just to be sure" and the Pact will protect you from an errant Force.
My misunderstanding; apologies. I guess I would just be leery of a spell that has such a dire drawback (pay this or DIE!) rather than additional mana acceleration or disruption, particularly if they put something nasty down before all the combo pieces are in order or if they manage to survive the storm.
Personally I think cabal therapy should go in the place of it, because its another spell to copy, and then it throws a creature in the graveyard for Will (2-3 spells in one card!).
Thanks,
-Sam
4x Dark Ritual
4x Cabal Ritual
4x Culling the Weak
4x Pact of Negation
3x Diabolic Intent
3x Yawgmoth’s Bargain
3x Duress
3x Rhystic Tutor
1x Yawgmoth’s Will
1x Demonic Tutor
3x Memnite
3x Phyrexian Walker
1x Lotus Petal
Also you should probably look in here http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/forumdisplay.php?f=587
BUWGRChilds PlayGRWUB
BUWGR Highlander GRWUB
UBSquee's Shapeshifting PetBU
BW Multiplayer Control WB
RG Changeling GR
UR Mana FlareRU
UMerfolkU
B MBMC B
You know back in the old days, when there wasn't EDH, these "griefer" cards in decks were the norm. If you played a Winter Orb when you're opponents were tapped out, it was a good play. Now, you get people tell you they wanna punch you ? It's really sad how carebare this format is, to the point that some loser has to rip up your cards.
Here is a link to Budget list I mentioned awhile back, check my post midway down thru the page
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=153207&highlight=culling+kobold&page=2
That list is based on something like this over on the Morphling:
http://www.morphling.de/top8decks.php?id=1209&highlight=Culling_the_Weak
And since this is your first post good job on the deck tags, but you might be in the wrong subforum - as I suspect that you are Budget. Good luck.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/blog.php?b=7295
Trickbind is seeing very little play in Vintage but it's certainly a consideration, but that's why you have Duress to clear the way. Force of Will doesn't stop Tendrils, it will certainly stop one copy but oftentimes you can storm for a few more points then you need "just to be sure" and the Pact will protect you from an errant Force.
My misunderstanding; apologies. I guess I would just be leery of a spell that has such a dire drawback (pay this or DIE!) rather than additional mana acceleration or disruption, particularly if they put something nasty down before all the combo pieces are in order or if they manage to survive the storm.
Personally I think cabal therapy should go in the place of it, because its another spell to copy, and then it throws a creature in the graveyard for Will (2-3 spells in one card!).
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/blog.php?b=7295