while I'm not sure on somethings of this, I'm curious about a few cards:
why jet medallion?
why aren't you running necropotence? grim tutor or beseech the queen are stronger than diabolic tutor. culling the weak is fine with priest of gix, but only with that. no critter, no mana. I'd cut that, too.
mind twist isn't horrible, but why no duress or thoughtseize to protect it?
these are just a few of the things I could point out that might make it hard to work.
mmm... previously, the deck was a bit diferent and the jet medallion was more functional. its a good card, but not too much. i can remove it.
i hate necropotence! the cards don't came to your hand when you need! yawgmoth's bargain is stronger: i pay the life and draw the cards. but i'll run one necropotence just to see what'll happen. its a good card to search with beseech the queen (low mana cost).
mmm, grim tutor...nice
beseech the queen: i guess it would be more a land tutor, but i'll try.
cut both culling the weak and the priest? i don't know...i prefer run su-shi or the like.
duress and toughtseize are good. i'll try.
thanx for the help. i'll run some matches with this modifications and reply the results.
mmm... previously, the deck was a bit diferent and the jet medallion was more functional. its a good card, but not too much. i can remove it.
i hate necropotence! the cards don't came to your hand when you need! yawgmoth's bargain is stronger: i pay the life and draw the cards. but i'll run one necropotence just to see what'll happen. its a good card to search with beseech the queen (low mana cost).
mmm, grim tutor...nice
beseech the queen: i guess it would be more a land tutor, but i'll try.
cut both culling the weak and the priest? i don't know...i prefer run su-shi or the like.
duress and toughtseize are good. i'll try.
thanx for the help. i'll run some matches with this modifications and reply the results.
Well, the best play in all of magic is turn 1 ritual --->Necropotence. If you do that, you have to be a pretty big idiot to not win the very next turn. And you HAVE to run only 1 necro because it's restricted
here's the strom list i'm currently runnig. normally kills turn 1-3.
for sideboarding, you should look at what decks your going to be playing. you probly need artifact destruction and grave hate. though's are must haves.
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here's the strom list i'm currently runnig. normally kills turn 1-3.
for sideboarding, you should look at what decks your going to be playing. you probly need artifact destruction and grave hate. though's are must haves.
after some matches (w/ decks of the local scenario), i decided to still run with 3 mind twists and the lone bojuka bog. the sideboard is not completed yet, but will be something in the lines of nmf96 post.
after some matches (w/ decks of the local scenario), i decided to still run with 3 mind twists and the lone bojuka bog. the sideboard is not completed yet, but will be something in the lines of nmf96 post.
thanks everybody for the help!
I would personally ditch the Wastelands. This deck is too colour intensive to be running lands that don't produce black in order to win. I'd also drop the Mind Twists in favour of running Thoughtseize. You don't need to cause a full hand discard with this deck, you just need to get rid of key cards that would disrupt you from going off. Seize comes down turn one, and is far less risky of an investment. If a turn 2 Seize gets countered, you can still combo off if you have a second land and some artifact mana. The same cannot be said about Twist. And realistically without blue for FoW, you're going to need a way to see what you'reopponent has in terms of answers before going off.
Also, why only the Mox Jet and no other jewelery? Seems a waste not to run the other 4, considering you want to get your storm count up, and there's really no easier way to do that then running the moxen. Chrome Mox is great, but also requires the discard in order to have it work, which can add up.
4 cabal ritual
1 yawgmoth's will
1 yawgmoth's bargain
4 tendrils of agony
1 mox jet
1 lion's eye diamond
1 black lotus
3 mind twist
1 ill-gotten gains
1 imperial seal
1 vampiric tutor
1 demonic tutor
3 diabolic tutor
4 jet medallion
1 lotus petal
4 priest of gix
4 culling the weak
1 lake of dead
19 swamps
there's no sideboard yet. i can't figure any idea to SB
why jet medallion?
why aren't you running necropotence?
grim tutor or beseech the queen are stronger than diabolic tutor.
culling the weak is fine with priest of gix, but only with that. no critter, no mana. I'd cut that, too.
mind twist isn't horrible, but why no duress or thoughtseize to protect it?
these are just a few of the things I could point out that might make it hard to work.
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i hate necropotence! the cards don't came to your hand when you need! yawgmoth's bargain is stronger: i pay the life and draw the cards. but i'll run one necropotence just to see what'll happen. its a good card to search with beseech the queen (low mana cost).
mmm, grim tutor...nice
beseech the queen: i guess it would be more a land tutor, but i'll try.
cut both culling the weak and the priest? i don't know...i prefer run su-shi or the like.
duress and toughtseize are good. i'll try.
thanx for the help. i'll run some matches with this modifications and reply the results.
Well, the best play in all of magic is turn 1 ritual --->Necropotence. If you do that, you have to be a pretty big idiot to not win the very next turn. And you HAVE to run only 1 necro because it's restricted
oh, yeah. i ran with sol ring and mana crypt to fill the open slot provided by the gix & culling the weak. thanks for the help
1 Mana Crypt
1 Necropotence
1 Grim Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Imperial Seal
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Ill-Gotten Gains
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Jet Medallion
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
1 Mox Jet
4 Dark Ritual
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Tendrils of Agony
3 Beseech the Queen
4 Duress
3 Mind Twist
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Lake of Dead
17 Swamp
did i forget something?
by the way, some suggestions to my SB?
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
4 Verdant Catacombs
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Imperial Seal
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
4 Cruel Bargain
4 Infernal Contract
1 Ill-Gotten Gains
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Necropotence
3 Tendrils of Agony
4 Chrome Mox
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Dark Ritual
here's the strom list i'm currently runnig. normally kills turn 1-3.
for sideboarding, you should look at what decks your going to be playing. you probly need artifact destruction and grave hate. though's are must haves.
for grave hate, you can use leyline of the void, and also throw in helm of obediance for that combo.
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well, that's a fact: my version runs too much lands. after Numotflame96 pointed this, i reconsidered the decklist and this is the results:
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Necropotence
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Imperial Seal
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Ill-Gotten Gains
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
1 Mox Jet
4 Dark Ritual
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Tendrils of Agony
4 Infernal Contract
4 Grim Tutor
4 Duress
3 Mind Twist
1 Bojuka Bog
4 Waste Lands
6 Swamp
4 Marsh Flats
1 Strip Mine
after some matches (w/ decks of the local scenario), i decided to still run with 3 mind twists and the lone bojuka bog. the sideboard is not completed yet, but will be something in the lines of nmf96 post.
thanks everybody for the help!
I would personally ditch the Wastelands. This deck is too colour intensive to be running lands that don't produce black in order to win. I'd also drop the Mind Twists in favour of running Thoughtseize. You don't need to cause a full hand discard with this deck, you just need to get rid of key cards that would disrupt you from going off. Seize comes down turn one, and is far less risky of an investment. If a turn 2 Seize gets countered, you can still combo off if you have a second land and some artifact mana. The same cannot be said about Twist. And realistically without blue for FoW, you're going to need a way to see what you'reopponent has in terms of answers before going off.
Also, why only the Mox Jet and no other jewelery? Seems a waste not to run the other 4, considering you want to get your storm count up, and there's really no easier way to do that then running the moxen. Chrome Mox is great, but also requires the discard in order to have it work, which can add up.
Here's the list i've been playing around with:
1x Black Lotus
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Pearl
1x Sol Ring
1x Mana Crypt
1x Lotus Petal
1x Lion's Eye Diamond
4x Dark Ritual
4x Cabal Ritual
//Wincon (03)//
3x Tendrils of Agony
//Tutors (07)//
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Imperial Seal
1x Vampiric Tutor
4x Grim Tutor
//Disruption (09)//
4x Duress
3x Thoughtseize
2x Pact of Negation
1x Necropotence
1x Ill-Gotten Gains
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Yawgmoth's Bargain
4x Infernal Contract
//Lands (15)//
4x Polluted Delta
1x Library of Alexandria
10x Swamp
Warning for necroing. C_c