Note: I guess this is not technically a null rod deck, but a stony silence deck. hope that is ok and goes with the spirit of this forum.
So I've been wanting to brew a harsh mentor deck in vintage ever since the restrictions because ravager seemed like top dog. I have to give mad props to mtgo user Jogee. Played against them and they were playing this really interesting boros humans list. They sent me their list (attached? it was a .dek file that I couldn't copy paste so screenshot) and I started brewing, played a few games, and ended up at this build. Their list was more varied, but I ended up with what felt like the most hateful creatures for the meta. sb has some sauce, but I'm still very much working everything out.
Most things are self-explanatory, but I do have some comments:
First, not sure if the rest of the moxen are supposed to be there or not, or on the other hand, more cavern. cavern, wasteland the off color moxen have some tension in terms of colored mana. Not to mention the stony silences XD. So I'm trying this out for now. I tried sans moxen with the sole lotus and didn't seem strong enough. maybe spirit guide is too cute and should be moxen, I really don't know and would love any comments.
Magus is probably the strongest of the red cards. Mother is there because getting your stuff killed really isn't good and I don't know, she seemed to fit the bill. It's possible i need more beef in thalia, heretic cathar and the notable grim lavamancer omission, which seemed slow, but might ultimately need the reach. eidolon is a little tought to cast, but you can name spirit on cavern in a pinch.
Firespout is a card i have liked agianst leovold specifically, and it's also nice to sweep up monk tokens. Spirit of the labyrinth is a bit of a narrow answer to leovold, so I can bolt him away on their turn, but is also just nice against blue decks. Don't know if I need all the gy hate, but I respect dredge. swords notably for eldrazy, and i like wear/tear over other alternatives for it's ability to hit oath. ingot chewer is the default for it's synergy with my own thalia, but spree might just be the better card.
so ya, I would love any feedback. It's flimsy to leovold control, and the sb might just need to be reworked to include some CA like sin prodder if anyone has any suggestions. It's kinda janky but it's fun.
Well the problem with leovold is two fold. First, leovold himself blocks everything in the deck, so it's kind of a bummer. Second, they just kill are your stuff, which can also be a bummer. Abrupt decay/discard just makes it harder to close out. And, again, I like the wears against a resolved oath, which I can't beat unless I have containment priest, so something maybe for that matchup? I guess beating oath depends on your draw. Anyway, thanks for looking it over!
Side note, I used Pillar effects to denote things like Pyrostatic Pillar, but neither build uses these things, maybe we should start using the term Eidolon effects.
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So I've been wanting to brew a harsh mentor deck in vintage ever since the restrictions because ravager seemed like top dog. I have to give mad props to mtgo user Jogee. Played against them and they were playing this really interesting boros humans list. They sent me their list (attached? it was a .dek file that I couldn't copy paste so screenshot) and I started brewing, played a few games, and ended up at this build. Their list was more varied, but I ended up with what felt like the most hateful creatures for the meta. sb has some sauce, but I'm still very much working everything out.
4 harsh mentor
4 eidolon of the great revel
4 thalia, guardian of thraben
4 phyrexian revoker
4 containment priest
4 magus of the moon
4 stony silence
4 lightning bolt
2 wear/tear
1 mox pearl
1 mox ruby
4 simian spirit guide
2 cavern of souls
4 wasteland
1 strip mine
4 arid mesa
2 plateau
2 plains
2 ingot chewer
2 spirit of the labyrinth
2 rest in peace
2 faerie macabre
2 sudden shock
2 swords to plowshares
1 firespout
Most things are self-explanatory, but I do have some comments:
First, not sure if the rest of the moxen are supposed to be there or not, or on the other hand, more cavern. cavern, wasteland the off color moxen have some tension in terms of colored mana. Not to mention the stony silences XD. So I'm trying this out for now. I tried sans moxen with the sole lotus and didn't seem strong enough. maybe spirit guide is too cute and should be moxen, I really don't know and would love any comments.
Magus is probably the strongest of the red cards. Mother is there because getting your stuff killed really isn't good and I don't know, she seemed to fit the bill. It's possible i need more beef in thalia, heretic cathar and the notable grim lavamancer omission, which seemed slow, but might ultimately need the reach. eidolon is a little tought to cast, but you can name spirit on cavern in a pinch.
Firespout is a card i have liked agianst leovold specifically, and it's also nice to sweep up monk tokens. Spirit of the labyrinth is a bit of a narrow answer to leovold, so I can bolt him away on their turn, but is also just nice against blue decks. Don't know if I need all the gy hate, but I respect dredge. swords notably for eldrazy, and i like wear/tear over other alternatives for it's ability to hit oath. ingot chewer is the default for it's synergy with my own thalia, but spree might just be the better card.
so ya, I would love any feedback. It's flimsy to leovold control, and the sb might just need to be reworked to include some CA like sin prodder if anyone has any suggestions. It's kinda janky but it's fun.
I agree that the sideboard could be more streamlined. Maybe cut the wear // tears and ??? and add more of other options...
Check out the first deck in this article, it's running the Mentor and various punishing Pillar effects like Eidolon.
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/vintage-101-more-power
Side note, I used Pillar effects to denote things like Pyrostatic Pillar, but neither build uses these things, maybe we should start using the term Eidolon effects.