MTG Salvation

Here's the deck that's showing its face now {5th place, 7th place ect}, and I'm starting to peice this together.
Any comments are welcome, and I can provide the source if needed.


UPDATED
I forgot the Edicts, and there was 3 main. Sorry about that one lol.

There was 3 Diabolic Edicts main'd {just forgot them in the post}, and I toyed around with this deck last night via marker and lands.
I don't understand why the recall isn't in here either, but in a few more games and I'll probably cut something to add it.
S.M.

Glad to see this deck is getting some heat.
I'm posting right now to just address one comment, and it's to the member that shared Energy Flux isn't that great against staxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Now I don't want to flame {I really got to read your views on this since you just posted that without any backup to your statement}, but if you can just explain how you come to this conclusion then maybe I might see the light on that topic.
I run them in BuG, and I will repeat they MURDER staxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, so what's the difference with this deck other then the Flux comes out faster?

They drop half their hand {stax players},
there's no way to fight the {tangle} the flux causes during their upkeep, they lose board. Considering a strong stax deck can board in Rods........but chokes on flux's I just don't get that one.

Other then that I'm glad to see the posts.

I've had a chance to use the cutpurse with result being like this;

They discard something useful like lets say a Delta, or mystic ect... they're at risk from losing all copies in their deck via Extripates maindeck. I know it seems a little harsh but bare with me, with them md the cutpurse's ability really made my bro ponder on which cards he was willing to drop.... some cards he surely paid the price when I used my early duress's/seize's!

So my verdict is Shadowmage was a killer creature for his day {notice how I said his day?} and the Dimir Cutpurse is the now. There were some situations that his effect became more taxin for my bro then I had picture it being before testing.....were the shadowmage it just a creature with a robe;).

My new version will stay in the bounds of this current build, but I do know this current one I started the post with surely needed some changes. So now that we're all back to this deck here's my current build open for the floor.

Will the necro just doens't feel right because there's no combo in the deck, but I do like the life from the loam idea.........yep I'm sold that needs to be in here.
Playing right now, but will include it after our next {pearl}.

Quote from D3@D

I think the deck looks a lot better now. Personally, I might have gone with 4 Duress, 4 Thoughtseize instead of the current cut. But this is just minor personal preferences. I don't think they make too much differences. With Cutpurse, Duress and Seize, you really got enough cover concerning hand-disrupting your opponent.

Only thing I miss now, is Necropotence, this card is just too good not to include. It can just randomly pop on turn one and spell (GG). Another Idea could be to add Life from the Loam as well to have some recurring Waste/Strips. This may be overkill tho.

D3@D

That's not possible with the md Rods.
Not a bad idea bud, but you can understand the counterlogic in that one.

Quote from Numotflame96

you might want to try Sensei's diving top. it helps to keep what you need coming to you a turn earlier and can chop some life loss from Dark confident.

I really like the debate, but again you have not given any reasons to believe your statement is solid.

So again let review {TMD is not important} just the facts for should do for this matter bud.

A solid {meaning VIntage STRONG} staxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx deck can board in RODs {we'll all agree on that one right?}, and truely doesn't really feel the pinch.
While if a flux hits {did you take the time to review the deck list that's posted here, and if you did then you must have noticed the MD is chalk full of "you can't do anything disruption"}
With that in mind a stax player drops his hand fast {check}
the flux requires a 2 upkeep {check}
How the hell can they keep their board {I'll let you uncheck that one}
......when they can't pay for it.

Now the bottom line!
Vintage pro's can see the flux murders stax...........the math is clean and simple {in a fun light to this topic is like a goblin player trying to swing with 5 creatures.....all while a Propaganda is on board....5 creatures down to 2.........5 artifacts down to 2}, and that bounce you speak of........probably means nothing in the end result {we're talking about staxxxx}........ or that's what jeff said I believe once he Boon'd 3 version in the 95 man tourney in chicago......with FLux being the main threat games 2-3.

I rest my comments on this topic, I tried.

So now has anyone put together a version, then this one that's posted yet?
pretty damn fun deck...
S.M.

Quote from D00msday

What kind of Stax players are scooping to Energy Flux though? (No offense to whoever you were playing against). Had you already dropped a few creatures and had them on a fast clock so they were going to die anyway? Were they somehow not playing with Welders and tutors? Did they keep a very bad hand? Sorry for so many questions I'm just trying to figure out what they were thinking.

Energy Flux is terrible in the decks that I play compared to mass bounce, but maybe in a deck like this with a slower clock it's better.

Also I'm still not sure of the rationale of leaving Demonic Consultation out. 9/10 it's better than Vampiric Tutor in this deck, it puts the card in your hand at instant speed, does not cause card disadvantage, doesn't cost life, and you have multiple copies of everything you'd want to tutor for except Lotus. Also you don't need to worry about it removing your win conditions because you have so many beaters.