Just got to say, you've definitely earned distinction as an MTGS hero
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ExpiredRascals you sir are a god-like hero.
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Viability depends on your metagame, but for more 'competitive' Vintage metas this deck would probably be too slow - a lot of the cards just cost too much mana to play and by time you've got High Tide active they'll have comboed out, activated Oath of Druids, played a Lodestone Golem etc.
That said, if you want to improve the deck then I'd suggest adding more counters to make it more resilient - Mental Misstep would be good because you can focus on finding High Tide or comboing out and not have to leave mana untapped to pay its mana cost. Mana Drain probably won't add much to the deck, so perhaps replacing it with 3 Mental Misstep and then some combination of other cheap/free counters as you see fit like Spell Pierce and Misdirection would work better.
Also, why are you running Bazaar of Baghdad? It's a brilliant card, but other than Yawgmoth's Will you have no cards that can really take advantage of it, and while it can be useful as a way to cycle useless cards out of your hand the slot could probably be filled with other more useful cards.
Jace, the Mind Sculptor seems like a worthwhile addition to the deck as he provides a powerful draw engine, stops opposing creatures, and can just win the game. Snapcaster Mage could also be worth adding as you're running a lot of cards that he would work well with.
Also, with your mana base, I'd suggest adding Sol Ring to the deck, perhaps even in place of one of the off color Moxen, because the turn it's played (unless it's your first turn) it's often as good as a Mox, and then every turn after that it adds twice as much mana to your mana pool.
I hope some of that helps!
Welcome to Vintage, and good luck with your deck!
Thanks for your pointers. I was thinking bazaar + untapper could be a good engine, but I see your points.
Yeah, bazaar probably isn't worth it. I would run Library of Alexandria tho. The draw 7s perfectly set it up and it even gets untapped by spiral and the like.
Also, if you're running fastbond anyway, I'd probably just go in all in with 4 gush as well.
Just got to say, you've definitely earned distinction as an MTGS hero
Quote from Stardust »
Because he's the hero MTGS deserves, and the one it needs right now. So we'll global him. Because he can take it. Because he's not just our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. An expired rascal.
Quote from LuckNorris »
ExpiredRascals you sir are a god-like hero.
Quote from Lanxal »
ER is a masterful god who cannot be beaten in any endeavour.
Just got to say, you've definitely earned distinction as an MTGS hero
Quote from Stardust »
Because he's the hero MTGS deserves, and the one it needs right now. So we'll global him. Because he can take it. Because he's not just our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. An expired rascal.
Quote from LuckNorris »
ExpiredRascals you sir are a god-like hero.
Quote from Lanxal »
ER is a masterful god who cannot be beaten in any endeavour.
I think Mental Misstep is a must; it's good in general, but especially good in this deck because it counters your opponent's Missteps, which are going to destroy you (as they counter High Tide). I also think Gush is worth trying out.
Just got to say, you've definitely earned distinction as an MTGS hero
Quote from Stardust »
Because he's the hero MTGS deserves, and the one it needs right now. So we'll global him. Because he can take it. Because he's not just our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. An expired rascal.
Quote from LuckNorris »
ExpiredRascals you sir are a god-like hero.
Quote from Lanxal »
ER is a masterful god who cannot be beaten in any endeavour.
Sol ring, is arguably the best mana accelerator in the game. Its produces two mana per turn well moxes only produce 1 and black lotus only works once. That extra colorless mana can really help you get past sphere effects.
Library of alexandria combos with land untappers such as mind over matter, frantic search, and candelabra of tawnos to get you the cards you need.
Mental misstep is basically a necessity in this deck because it can counter opposing missteps that are targeting your high tides.
Gush is really solid when most of your lands are islands and you are already running fastbond. You can also add imperial seal as an additional means of acquiring fastbond.
I would make the following modifications to put these cards to use:
-4 bazaar of baghdad
-3 frantic search
-2 retraced image
-1 turnabout
-1 blue sun's zenith
+4 gush
+3 mental misstep
+1 sol ring
+1 library of alexandria
+1 regrowth
+1 imperial seal
The only problem I see: Getting enough Islands into play. Can be solved by Fastbond Though.
I guess it would play Like gush tendrils, but more resilient.
Here is my first attempt:
4 High Tide
1 Ancestrall Recall
1 Brainstorm
4 Frantic Search
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Turnabout
1 Blue Sun's Zenith
1 Cunning Wish
4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
Sorcery
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Merchant scroll
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Time Walk
3 Time Spiral
2 Retraced Image
1 Mind's Desire
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Emerald
4 Candelabra of Tawnos
Enchantments
1 Fastbond
1 Mind Over matter
Land
4 Underground Sea
4 Tropical Island
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Bazaar of Baghdad
3 Island
1 Meditate
1 Brain Freeze
1 Blue Sun's Zenith
1 Turnabout
Thoughts? Viability? Changes?
Thanks.
Thank you mchief111, great sig
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Current:
Legacy:
:symu::symb::symr::symw::symg: TES | Spiral Tide | MUD | :symu::symb::symg: Lands | Burn | :symr::symbg: Goblins | Elf Combo
Vintage:
:symb::symu: Titan Dredge | :symb::symu::symw: Bomberman
Modern:
:symu::symr: Kiki-Twin | :symr::symg: Tron
Standard:
Wip
EDH:
:symb::symu::symw: Zur
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Ahh... Will add...
Thank you mchief111, great sig
Lvl 37 Planeswalker
Current:
Legacy:
:symu::symb::symr::symw::symg: TES | Spiral Tide | MUD | :symu::symb::symg: Lands | Burn | :symr::symbg: Goblins | Elf Combo
Vintage:
:symb::symu: Titan Dredge | :symb::symu::symw: Bomberman
Modern:
:symu::symr: Kiki-Twin | :symr::symg: Tron
Standard:
Wip
EDH:
:symb::symu::symw: Zur
Thanks for your pointers. I was thinking bazaar + untapper could be a good engine, but I see your points.
Thank you mchief111, great sig
Lvl 37 Planeswalker
Current:
Legacy:
:symu::symb::symr::symw::symg: TES | Spiral Tide | MUD | :symu::symb::symg: Lands | Burn | :symr::symbg: Goblins | Elf Combo
Vintage:
:symb::symu: Titan Dredge | :symb::symu::symw: Bomberman
Modern:
:symu::symr: Kiki-Twin | :symr::symg: Tron
Standard:
Wip
EDH:
:symb::symu::symw: Zur
Also, if you're running fastbond anyway, I'd probably just go in all in with 4 gush as well.
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I would tho add tinker + memory jar. It's another strong draw 7 that doesn't get rfg'd upon casting.
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Library of alexandria combos with land untappers such as mind over matter, frantic search, and candelabra of tawnos to get you the cards you need.
Regrowth allows you to reuse high tide, ancestral recall, time walk and other cards from your graveyard.
Mental misstep is basically a necessity in this deck because it can counter opposing missteps that are targeting your high tides.
Gush is really solid when most of your lands are islands and you are already running fastbond. You can also add imperial seal as an additional means of acquiring fastbond.
I would make the following modifications to put these cards to use:
-4 bazaar of baghdad
-3 frantic search
-2 retraced image
-1 turnabout
-1 blue sun's zenith
+4 gush
+3 mental misstep
+1 sol ring
+1 library of alexandria
+1 regrowth
+1 imperial seal
Also, I will include a Timetwister.
Thank you mchief111, great sig
Lvl 37 Planeswalker
Current:
Legacy:
:symu::symb::symr::symw::symg: TES | Spiral Tide | MUD | :symu::symb::symg: Lands | Burn | :symr::symbg: Goblins | Elf Combo
Vintage:
:symb::symu: Titan Dredge | :symb::symu::symw: Bomberman
Modern:
:symu::symr: Kiki-Twin | :symr::symg: Tron
Standard:
Wip
EDH:
:symb::symu::symw: Zur