This is my first post and I'm only now coming here after trying to find the answer on my own but my knowledge on cards is mediocre and I feel card search engines can only help so much. (I do believe I'm in the right forum area but if not advise me to the right area.)
I'm building a type 1 Blue Green deck.
The card I'm focusing on is NaturalOrder, with my current setup the best I can do is use it on turn 2.
So basically how it plays out is
turn 1
Blue/Green Mana
Magus of the Vineyard
Turn 2
play a Mana
Play Natural Order
The obvious draw back is my opponent gets to work with 3 mana on their first turn and this is something I would like to avoid.
I have thought about adding Chancellor of the Tangle (hoping for a first turn draw) in order to play Personal Tutor in the event I don't have Primal Order.
But personally I'd like to work out a way to play Primal Order on my first turn, I'm pretty sure it's possible after conversing with a few friends. But we don't have the knowledge to do this.
But this is all hypothetical junk, I doubt this would work for more than half my games. So basically I'm looking for a way to keep this consistent on turn 2 75% of the time, or if possible turn 1.
Also this is something I would like to take to a local tournament or casual play with my friends.
Unfortunately I won't be able to read any responses if there happens to be any until morning, as I'm currently heading to bed. If more information is required I'll post. But I think I covered all I needed to.
As of right now it's already out of my meager funding range, so I'm just getting it setup so that I can buy exactly what I need after I finish my boot camp training. (Air Force if you were wondering) Either forum is fine with me it's up to you where you move it, as long as I get some help from people. (Which is more than likely) since it's a type 1 deck I just assumed this was the right area.
Basically this concept was for Tangle of the Liege just because I was fond of the Art work and the effect was okay for me. Personally for a turn 3 kill I know I'd have to switch it out for something a little stronger. But since I'm not worried about anything outside of Local/Casual I'm just going to stick with him. (Eventually I'd like to fine tune it some more after I get use to the play style for competitive play.)
Key cards I'm looking
Tangle of the Liege
Berserk
Chrome Mox
Mox Diamond
Pesonal tutor
I'd really want that 2 mana first turn. So that Personal Tutor can search out Berserk or Natural order.
I would consider using Worldspine Wurm over Liege if your running a budget build. You could also use Ancient Tomb to help ramp into a second turn Natural Order, with out giving your oppenent the mana ramp.
Good luck!
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Vintage! Where the early game is Shuffling, the midgame is Mulliganing, and the Late game is turn 1
Side note here, the deck you are looking for seems much more like a Legacy build then vintage, you might also try that forum as there are a variety of Natural Order decks out there.
If you are looking to keep your costs down I would shy away Personal Tutor, as it's a relatively expensive card which is not as useful as other cards might be, if you do stay in Vintage, consider Mystical Tutor instead as a cheaper alternative, but it is restricted.
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I'm building a type 1 Blue Green deck.
The card I'm focusing on is NaturalOrder, with my current setup the best I can do is use it on turn 2.
So basically how it plays out is
turn 1
Blue/Green Mana
Magus of the Vineyard
Turn 2
play a Mana
Play Natural Order
The obvious draw back is my opponent gets to work with 3 mana on their first turn and this is something I would like to avoid.
I have thought about adding Chancellor of the Tangle (hoping for a first turn draw) in order to play Personal Tutor in the event I don't have Primal Order.
But personally I'd like to work out a way to play Primal Order on my first turn, I'm pretty sure it's possible after conversing with a few friends. But we don't have the knowledge to do this.
But this is all hypothetical junk, I doubt this would work for more than half my games. So basically I'm looking for a way to keep this consistent on turn 2 75% of the time, or if possible turn 1.
Also this is something I would like to take to a local tournament or casual play with my friends.
Unfortunately I won't be able to read any responses if there happens to be any until morning, as I'm currently heading to bed. If more information is required I'll post. But I think I covered all I needed to.
Basically this concept was for Tangle of the Liege just because I was fond of the Art work and the effect was okay for me. Personally for a turn 3 kill I know I'd have to switch it out for something a little stronger. But since I'm not worried about anything outside of Local/Casual I'm just going to stick with him. (Eventually I'd like to fine tune it some more after I get use to the play style for competitive play.)
Key cards I'm looking
Tangle of the Liege
Berserk
Chrome Mox
Mox Diamond
Pesonal tutor
I'd really want that 2 mana first turn. So that Personal Tutor can search out Berserk or Natural order.
Good luck!
Alternatively you can pursue more of a red basis for your acceleration going with Manamorphose to color fix/draw, using things like Rite of Flame, Simian Spirit Guide and Seething Song.
If you are looking to keep your costs down I would shy away Personal Tutor, as it's a relatively expensive card which is not as useful as other cards might be, if you do stay in Vintage, consider Mystical Tutor instead as a cheaper alternative, but it is restricted.