Threnody Singer
Being a 1/3 instead of a 1/2 this will average being better than Faerie Duelist but is it good enough?
Medomai's Prophecy
So scry 2 and draw 2 with a slight upside in most cases but over multiple turns. I am interested but I am not sure this is because of the design or because the card is actually good.
Wolfwillow Haven
A Rampant Growth that doesn't fix but leaves a 2/2 once it is no longer necessary. Probably not good enough.
The new basic lands
I Like them a lot and I am thinking of changing my basic lands to these in due time.
Hydra's Growth is a more fragile and fair version of Kalonian Hydra. It's even more 'all in', so I assume most people (including me) won't like it in their cubes. But it's certainly a powerful card that will win the game if it's unanswered for a few turns, especially on a creature with evasion. On the other hand people who would play this would probably play Curse of Predation as well, and that is a way better card with a similar effect.
I like Chainweb Aracnir. Nice payoff for graveyard/self-mill decks. The one drop isn't useless for a slow deck like that and later you get a 4/5 reach that can kill pretty much any flyer your opponent can possibly have on etb. Will add that one.
Medomai's Prohecy is hard to evaluate. You are bound to play the card you named during stage 2 or the card will be almost wasted, which could lead to bad situations quite often I imagine.
Alirios, Enraptured looks like decent value. Not sure I need a card like that in blue though.
Omen of the Sea is nice with any permanent bounce/flicker. Makes it hard to get blown out and is one of the better CA targets available. Also just a reasonable card, though it doesn't work in spells matter like the rest of the cantrips.
Chainweb Aracnir seems strong. A cursory search gives me 20 x/1 flyers in my cube ignoring spirit/thopter makers. And it's escape is a Nessian Asp without monstrous that etb plummets, which is just a good card. Getting 4 other cards in yard isn't particularly hard either. Only downside I can see is it doesn't work if you draw it late and need a beater immediately.
Medomai's Prophecy seems good, but probably top awkward. If you top deck it and bottom 1 you need to hold what you topped for the turn to get the draw. Scry 2 draw 2 for 2 is pretty tempting though.
Alirios, Enraptured is 5/5 worth of stats for 3 mana, which is the best mana to stats ratio we have? There's a hoop to jump through, but the raw stats plus the blink synergy makes it a least interesting. You also have Great Oak Guardian, Bounding Krasis, and Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner all in UG to mitigate the drawback.
Threnody Singer seems like good filler. People were talking about a 1/3 flyer being a really good defensive statline a while back iirc, and this doubles down on being a good defensive play.
There is a better Manic Vandal among the leaked cards. Rhis one offers more options if you don't have a target to destroy.
Irreverent Revelers 2R
Creature – Satyr (Common)
When Irreverent Revelers enters the battlefield, choose one –
– Destroy target artifact.
– Irreverent Revelers gains haste until end of turn.
2/2
i think i like the look of the spider a lot, being a resilient body with etb value, and it's not even overcosted coming from the graveyard which is nice.
the rest of the cards look pretty marginal, but could see room for them in larger cubes for sure.
Oh yeah that spider does seem really good. The escape mechanic seems like it could be super good as a another "flashback" mechanic with a lower mana cost than something like eternalise
There is a better Manic Vandal among the leaked cards. Rhis one offers more options if you don't have a target to destroy.
Irreverent Revelers 2R
Creature – Satyr (Common)
When Irreverent Revelers enters the battlefield, choose one –
– Destroy target artifact.
– Irreverent Revelers gains haste until end of turn.
2/2
That one is an auto-include for me. Minor downgrade because it isn't a Warrior, but a major upgrade when you don't have an artifact to destroy.
Is Omen of the hunt relevant for the illusive Enchantment deck? I suspect that archetype will receive a fair few upgrades in the set, but perhaps Wild Growth, Utopia Sprawl, Gift of Paradise are more than enough options for enchantment-based ramp already? The option to scry it away is nice, and flash is also useful in simic, as those decks often both want to play at instant speed and tend to be splashing...
I am quite hopeful since each of Devotion, Escape, and Sagas is a mechanic I quite like. However, Daxos is definitely not something I would personally really see myself adding. Even though it could be decent enough as a ground clogger in a life gain stall.
Well, so far this set truly sucks. There is still a lot to spoil, but an uncommon like The Binding of Titans is basically a really bad version of a mediocre common from another set (Grapple with the Past), which is not a good sign. And it's unlikely we'll get any broken devotion cards so unless your cube is based around mono color decks most of what we'll get for that mechanic will be out of question. Just a few weeks ago I cut Gray Merchant, and I doubt we'll get anything better than that.
Threnody Singer is a card we are considering, being as it is an okay body with a fine combat trick attached. It just does a bunch of things for the blue aggro decks, be they mono or dualcoloured.
Other than that and the spider, so far nothing yet imo.
With a heavy graveyard theme, I like Cling to Dust. It hits the theme on two levels by hating the grave and having escape. It's a sweet card, but most people would probably underrate it and think it was strictly sideboard fodder.
Aggro likes it for being difficult to block, it's a nice blocker, has lifegain, selfmill and it's even a Zombie for decks that care about any of those things.
Not bad. I suppose that not milling three or four cards is what makes people not being excited with him, but I like it, too.
The Spider Confirmed but also... Reverent Hoplite which is also pretty amazing. White has perminate based removal and lots of pips.
Hmm still Mire triton seems just a step below my other 2 drops also I have a thing about 1 toughness creatures being bad (I have so many 1/1 tokens and 1/1 token hate), I'll see what my players think. I have a cube schedualed just before Theros BD comes out.
archon of falling stars looks pretty strong as a 6 mana 4/4 flying with a death trigger that can be pretty relevant. getting back a removal spell or a big enchantment creature (if you run stuff like the archetypes) is good value.
stinging lionfish is interesting, especially as a 2 mana 2/1. absolutely no idea how good it is though. at very least it can be a great defensive creature.
drag to the underworld is an efficient removal spell, but not super good in control in theory, so honestly might be a good addition just as a removal spell that isn't a braindead autoinclude.
nyx herald as a 3/4 trample for 3 alone is pretty strong, but i'm pretty sure that's all it's ever gunna be. i don't think it needs to spread the buff though, being ahead of the curve is strong enough.
blood aspirant is expensive and slow, but it actually does a ton at once; grows itself, pings, and forces through damage. probably too slow for us but i wouldn't be surprised if it's actually super good.
rebirth for glory is a strong 2 for 1 but i don't think its value is maximised in cube. getting back a dude + a pacifism seems great though.
pharika's spawn's escape side looks absurd. i think this is definitely cubeable as a pretty excellent late game grinder.
chainweb aracnir still looks awesome to me. probably still the standout card along with the gorgon.
reverent hoplite looks as terrible as its predecessor in og theros.
mire triton does a lot of small things well, and is also a deathtouching 2/1 for 2. solid body, solid effect.
devourer of memory is super interesting and honestly looks strong af. i dig how self mill isn't strictly golgari now, since other colours didn't really have that much payoff before.
escape velocity is a pretty cool fires spinoff. not sure how it compares to reckless charge, or even just fires in general.
brine giant gives pillowfort a good card if anyone supports that?
daxos looks like pretty good value, and a great defensive creature. i think vigilance would be too much to ask for but man how good...
Leonin Relic-Warder + Animate Dead/Dance of the Dead + Soul's Attendant or Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat or Falkenrath Noble or Syr Konrad or Hissing Iguanar or Goblin Bombardment
- Fiend Hunter + Oblivion Ring/Journey to Nowhere + Leonin Relic-Warder + Soul's Attendant or Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat or Falkenrath Noble or Syr Konrad or Hissing Iguanar or Goblin Bombardment
Thoughts so far: Chainweb Aracnir
Seems very good. Definitely adding this.
Mire Triton
I'm am looking at self mill again. I hope this set will give enough support to make it viable. We shall see.
Pharika's Spawn
The escape part is very good, but a 3/4 for 4 is not. Depends on whether you can get it in your graveyard other than casting it and letting it die I guess.
Blood Aspirant
I love these kind of cards, but I am not sure it's good enough. Probably test and cut later
Reverent Hoplite
Seems like a win more card. It really needs to make at least 4 tokens to be decent and is it is abismal on an empty board.
Archon of Falling Stars
Not for my cube. Way to few targets, even less that go to the graveyard semi-reliable and a 4/4 flyer for 6 is not what I want.
Nyx Herald
Is this better than Hungry Spriggan? It might be, but not by much and I am not playing the Spriggan.
Stinging Lionfish
I don't think this card is good enough but it makes me hopeful for some more flash archtype support.
Drag to the Underworld
So bcs is an slightly better Cast Down or Go for the Throat for BB. Not interested but it might be good enough in larger cubes or cubes with depowered removal. Also an interesting option if you like to encourage mono decks in your cube without making the card bad in multicolored decks (Tendrils of Corruption).
Rebirth for Glory
Not for my cube. I have ten auras in my entire cube of which 5 are in black or white.
Devourer of Memory
I can see this being played in cubes with 5+ guild sections. I only have two cards per guild and this is not cutting it then.
Shimmerwing Chimera has some cool implications with a couple of enchantments: recasting Animate Dead is big game, and it's pretty hilarious with Standstill. More reasonably, bouncing Oblivion Rings occasionally has its uses.
Nyx Herald probably isn't good enough, but it's close enough that I'll wait until the end of spoilers to decide. 2-3 strong/repeatable auras and a few aggressive green enchantment creatures would make it quite strong.
Blood Aspirant notably triggers on permanents, so clues, food, sagas, and fetches all boost it, not even going into specific cards. Doesn't seem overly unreasonable considering it gives decent utility.
Pharika's Spawn is midranged filler. A 4 cost 3/4 is incredibly passive, and the escape isn't even particularly good for a 6 drop. If you want to grind out value there are easier ways.
Mire Triton is playable, but self milling 2 is often too minor to be worth anything outside of devoted GB graveyard decks. Additionally, Vampire of the Dire Moon fills a similar niche, but I'm not sure which one is better.
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Underworld Dreams
Was already uncommon in Legends but cool reprint. Not good enough for C/Ube though.
Alirios, Enraptured
So a bit like Deathbloom Thallid and co. only it leaves a 2/3 and it is better with blink? Might be worth a shot?
Threnody Singer
Being a 1/3 instead of a 1/2 this will average being better than Faerie Duelist but is it good enough?
Medomai's Prophecy
So scry 2 and draw 2 with a slight upside in most cases but over multiple turns. I am interested but I am not sure this is because of the design or because the card is actually good.
Wolfwillow Haven
A Rampant Growth that doesn't fix but leaves a 2/2 once it is no longer necessary. Probably not good enough.
The new basic lands
I Like them a lot and I am thinking of changing my basic lands to these in due time.
My C/Ube on Cube Cobra
I like Chainweb Aracnir. Nice payoff for graveyard/self-mill decks. The one drop isn't useless for a slow deck like that and later you get a 4/5 reach that can kill pretty much any flyer your opponent can possibly have on etb. Will add that one.
Medomai's Prohecy is hard to evaluate. You are bound to play the card you named during stage 2 or the card will be almost wasted, which could lead to bad situations quite often I imagine.
Alirios, Enraptured looks like decent value. Not sure I need a card like that in blue though.
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Chainweb Aracnir seems strong. A cursory search gives me 20 x/1 flyers in my cube ignoring spirit/thopter makers. And it's escape is a Nessian Asp without monstrous that etb plummets, which is just a good card. Getting 4 other cards in yard isn't particularly hard either. Only downside I can see is it doesn't work if you draw it late and need a beater immediately.
Medomai's Prophecy seems good, but probably top awkward. If you top deck it and bottom 1 you need to hold what you topped for the turn to get the draw. Scry 2 draw 2 for 2 is pretty tempting though.
Alirios, Enraptured is 5/5 worth of stats for 3 mana, which is the best mana to stats ratio we have? There's a hoop to jump through, but the raw stats plus the blink synergy makes it a least interesting. You also have Great Oak Guardian, Bounding Krasis, and Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner all in UG to mitigate the drawback.
Threnody Singer seems like good filler. People were talking about a 1/3 flyer being a really good defensive statline a while back iirc, and this doubles down on being a good defensive play.
Irreverent Revelers 2R
Creature – Satyr (Common)
When Irreverent Revelers enters the battlefield, choose one –
– Destroy target artifact.
– Irreverent Revelers gains haste until end of turn.
2/2
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the rest of the cards look pretty marginal, but could see room for them in larger cubes for sure.
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And yeah, the spider is really good, too.
I hope these leaks are real.
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I am quite hopeful since each of Devotion, Escape, and Sagas is a mechanic I quite like. However, Daxos is definitely not something I would personally really see myself adding. Even though it could be decent enough as a ground clogger in a life gain stall.
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Other than that and the spider, so far nothing yet imo.
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Seems pretty good to me. It will probably never be amazing, but the floor is quite high on the card, and it helps black's biggest theme.
Birth of Metetis is sort of a worse Wall of Omens. But it's an enchantment based option, and I wanna make enchantments more of a thing. Sagas are good with Restoration Specialist/Auramancer.
With a heavy graveyard theme, I like Cling to Dust. It hits the theme on two levels by hating the grave and having escape. It's a sweet card, but most people would probably underrate it and think it was strictly sideboard fodder.
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Not bad. I suppose that not milling three or four cards is what makes people not being excited with him, but I like it, too.
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Hmm still Mire triton seems just a step below my other 2 drops also I have a thing about 1 toughness creatures being bad (I have so many 1/1 tokens and 1/1 token hate), I'll see what my players think. I have a cube schedualed just before Theros BD comes out.
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GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
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R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
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archon of falling stars looks pretty strong as a 6 mana 4/4 flying with a death trigger that can be pretty relevant. getting back a removal spell or a big enchantment creature (if you run stuff like the archetypes) is good value.
stinging lionfish is interesting, especially as a 2 mana 2/1. absolutely no idea how good it is though. at very least it can be a great defensive creature.
drag to the underworld is an efficient removal spell, but not super good in control in theory, so honestly might be a good addition just as a removal spell that isn't a braindead autoinclude.
nyx herald as a 3/4 trample for 3 alone is pretty strong, but i'm pretty sure that's all it's ever gunna be. i don't think it needs to spread the buff though, being ahead of the curve is strong enough.
blood aspirant is expensive and slow, but it actually does a ton at once; grows itself, pings, and forces through damage. probably too slow for us but i wouldn't be surprised if it's actually super good.
rebirth for glory is a strong 2 for 1 but i don't think its value is maximised in cube. getting back a dude + a pacifism seems great though.
pharika's spawn's escape side looks absurd. i think this is definitely cubeable as a pretty excellent late game grinder.
chainweb aracnir still looks awesome to me. probably still the standout card along with the gorgon.
reverent hoplite looks as terrible as its predecessor in og theros.
mire triton does a lot of small things well, and is also a deathtouching 2/1 for 2. solid body, solid effect.
devourer of memory is super interesting and honestly looks strong af. i dig how self mill isn't strictly golgari now, since other colours didn't really have that much payoff before.
escape velocity is a pretty cool fires spinoff. not sure how it compares to reckless charge, or even just fires in general.
brine giant gives pillowfort a good card if anyone supports that?
daxos looks like pretty good value, and a great defensive creature. i think vigilance would be too much to ask for but man how good...
Leonin Relic-Warder + Animate Dead/Dance of the Dead + Soul's Attendant or Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat or Falkenrath Noble or Syr Konrad or Hissing Iguanar or Goblin Bombardment
- Fiend Hunter + Oblivion Ring/Journey to Nowhere + Leonin Relic-Warder + Soul's Attendant or Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat or Falkenrath Noble or Syr Konrad or Hissing Iguanar or Goblin Bombardment
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Chainweb Aracnir
Seems very good. Definitely adding this.
Mire Triton
I'm am looking at self mill again. I hope this set will give enough support to make it viable. We shall see.
Pharika's Spawn
The escape part is very good, but a 3/4 for 4 is not. Depends on whether you can get it in your graveyard other than casting it and letting it die I guess.
Blood Aspirant
I love these kind of cards, but I am not sure it's good enough. Probably test and cut later
Reverent Hoplite
Seems like a win more card. It really needs to make at least 4 tokens to be decent and is it is abismal on an empty board.
Archon of Falling Stars
Not for my cube. Way to few targets, even less that go to the graveyard semi-reliable and a 4/4 flyer for 6 is not what I want.
Nyx Herald
Is this better than Hungry Spriggan? It might be, but not by much and I am not playing the Spriggan.
Stinging Lionfish
I don't think this card is good enough but it makes me hopeful for some more flash archtype support.
Drag to the Underworld
So bcs is an slightly better Cast Down or Go for the Throat for BB. Not interested but it might be good enough in larger cubes or cubes with depowered removal. Also an interesting option if you like to encourage mono decks in your cube without making the card bad in multicolored decks (Tendrils of Corruption).
Rebirth for Glory
Not for my cube. I have ten auras in my entire cube of which 5 are in black or white.
Devourer of Memory
I can see this being played in cubes with 5+ guild sections. I only have two cards per guild and this is not cutting it then.
My C/Ube on Cube Cobra
Tymaret, Chosen from Death might be able to be a second Gifted Aetherborn in heavy black decks with the added bonus of grave hate.
Nyx Herald probably isn't good enough, but it's close enough that I'll wait until the end of spoilers to decide. 2-3 strong/repeatable auras and a few aggressive green enchantment creatures would make it quite strong.
Blood Aspirant notably triggers on permanents, so clues, food, sagas, and fetches all boost it, not even going into specific cards. Doesn't seem overly unreasonable considering it gives decent utility.
Pharika's Spawn is midranged filler. A 4 cost 3/4 is incredibly passive, and the escape isn't even particularly good for a 6 drop. If you want to grind out value there are easier ways.
Mire Triton is playable, but self milling 2 is often too minor to be worth anything outside of devoted GB graveyard decks. Additionally, Vampire of the Dire Moon fills a similar niche, but I'm not sure which one is better.
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Anax, hardened in the forge and Renata, called to the hunt are interesting.
Oread of Mountain's Blaze seems like a nice way to fuel red decks help push through mana flood and finding good cards.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
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GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
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