MTG Salvation

The spoiling of Heirloom Blade is forcing us to take a second look at the type-lines of creatures in our cube, specifically the many creatures affected by the Grand Creature Type Update of 2007. We have a thread discussing this in the traditional cube forum, but I thought it might be helpful to adapt the relevant information there for Peasant cubes to this forum. There was a little bit of discussion on this already in the Commander 2017 spoilers thread, but there's enough going on here that I think this warrants its own thread for anyone who wants interactions with creature type-matters cards to go as smoothly as possible in their cube.

Here's a list of Peasant creature cards I know of whose type was officially changed in 2007, most of these do have a version available in print with the updated creature types, I've marked the ones that do not with an asterisk (*). However, some of the creatures with updated type lines, such as Savannah Lions, are only available with a gold expansion symbol:

Creatures Updated With "Human" Added to Their Type Line
Common Tribal Interactions: Silver-Inlaid Dagger, Hamlet Captain, Courageous Outrider

Mother of Runes
Pianna, Nomad Captain*
Lu Xun, Scholar General
Sun Ce, Young Conquerer*
Nekrataal
Sorceress Queen*
Wei Night Raiders*
Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed*
Fireslinger
Ghitu Slinger
Imperial Recruiter
Keldon Vandals*
Avalanche Riders
Corrupt Eunuchs*
Yavimaya Elder




Other Relevant Tribal Additions (the most common cube interactions are in parentheses)

Ghitu Encampment - Warrior (Blood-Chin Rager, Bramblewood Paragon)
Faerie Conclave - Faerie (Spellstutter Sprite)
Lu Xun, Scholar General - Legend Human Soldier
Sun Ce, Young Conquerer* - Legend Human Soldier
Dauthi Horror* - Beast Dauthi Horror
Sorceress Queen* - Sorceress Human Wizard
Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed* - Legend Human Soldier
Guardian Idol* - Golem (Wing Splicer, Master Splicer, etc.)
Phyrexian War Beast - Beast (Advocate of the Beast, Krosan Warchief)


Other Retconned Cube Cards That Probably Didn't Matter Until WoTC Decided to Print Heirloom Blade
For the sake of thoroughness, here are some cube cards that have updated types in their Oracle wording that probably won't matter, unless you're running something like Heirloom or other unusual tribes matter cards, or if new tribal enablers are printed in the future.

Savannah Lions - Lions Cat
Soltari Monk* - Soltari Cleric
Soltari Priest* - Soltari Cleric
Soltari Trooper* - Soltari Soldier
Soltari Champion* - Soltari Soldier
Clone - Clone Shapeshifter
Merfolk Looter - Merfolk Rogue
Old Man of the Sea* - Marid Djinn
Waterfront Bouncer* - Merfolk Spellshaper
Dauthi Horror* - Beast Dauthi Horror
Dauthi Slayer - Dauthi Soldier
Dauthi Marauder* - Dauthi Minion
Jackal Pup* - Hound Jackal
Fire Imp* - Imp
Elves of Deep Shadow - Elves Elf Druid
Fyndhorn Elves - Elves Elf Druid
Jungle Lion* - Cat
Llanowar Elves - Elves Elf Druid
Krosan Tusker - Boar Beast
Treetop Village - Ape
Wall of Blossoms - Plant Wall
Wall of Roots - Plant Wall
Cathodion - Construct
Juggernaut - Juggernaut
Su-Chi* - Construct
Triskelion - Construct
Cavern Harpy* - Harpy Beast

I've tried to be as thorough as I can, but I'm sure I've missed something, especially for those of you that are going unusually deep on certain themes. If anyone can think of any more potentially relevant tribal updates to cube cards please post them here.

Thanks for the list!
Some cards in my cube that I didn't see:
Old Man of the Sea - Djinn
Jackal Pup - Jackal
Guardian Idol - Golem

Nice work.

Pianna, Nomad Captain needs a star, unless you count printed proxys from Vintage Masters.

I've edited the OP to reflect all of the above comments, thanks for pointing them out. Jackal Pup in particular came as a real surprise to me.

I think literally every playable card from P3K is printed with an inaccurate creature type (Zodiac Rabbit is correct, though!)

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I think literally every playable card from P3K is printed with an inaccurate creature type (Zodiac Rabbit is correct, though!)

Good point, I'm adding Lu Xun, Scholar General, Sun Ce, Young Conquerer, and Corrupt Eunuchs. Are there any other P3K creatures that see much C/Ube play I'm missing?

Wow, that card's so expensive I never thought to check to see if it was an uncommon. Consider it added.

Wei Night Raiders, Xiahou Dun also P3K playables

Maybe off topic, but how do people feel about adding creature types where it seems obvious but for one reason of another it wasn't printed with the type?

The only example I can think of is Gnarled Scarhide; I'm pretty sure MaRo has stated it was intended to be a zombie,the only reason it wasn't printed as one was because it wouldn't fit in the type line. I would rate Gnarled Scarhide slightly higher if it could help push zombie tribal.

Edit: Clicked in from the main page without noticing this is the pauper forum, but still interested in opinions.

Wei Night Raiders, Xiahou Dun also P3K playables

Added, thanks.

Maybe off topic, but how do people feel about adding creature types where it seems obvious but for one reason of another it wasn't printed with the type?

The only example I can think of is Gnarled Scarhide; I'm pretty sure MaRo has stated it was intended to be a zombie,the only reason it wasn't printed as one was because it wouldn't fit in the type line. I would rate Gnarled Scarhide slightly higher if it could help push zombie tribal.

I prefer not to customize cards in any way. I've had enough drafters frown on some of the more offbeat non-tournament legal cards that WoTC has printed like Un-cards and Conspiracy cards, and to some extent even Commander cards for me to think it's a good idea for me to start altering the text of Magic cards in my cube in any way. So far as altering the type lines goes, I think this thread should illustrate pretty clearly how complex keeping track of type lines in Oracle text can be without complicating matters further by making your own changes to Oracle text. If you do want to do something like this, I really recommend discussing it with your playgroup first.

All that said, this thread isn't really the place to discuss card customization. I'd start a new thread in the main cube forum for that.

Edit: Clicked in from the main page without noticing this is the pauper forum, but still interested in opinions.

Peasant, actually, which is cubes with both commons and uncommons. My opinion is that Peasant cubing's a blast and you should give it a try!

Peasant cubing is definitely a blast. And updates are affordable from set to set, which is a *huge* draw.