I'm considering to extend my 360 card Pauper Cube to maybe 420 (10 for each color and colorless). The Reasons:
- 1st: I want to include more archetypes and I think it's hard to cut cards for that.
- 2nd: I heard it's harder to build a 360 card cube than a bigger one. Can anybody tell me why?
Also, why I'm considering to stay at 360: We play most of the time with only 4 players, so I'm afraid the archetypes aren't possible, if the cube is to big.
It might help to think of archetype support in terms of ratios. If you want 3 cards supporting "enchantments matter" to show up in a 4-person draft, you need 6 in your 360 and 9 if you went up to 540.
What expanding your cube lets you do is sneak some of those in without feeling guilty. You're still reducing support for the existing archetypes (because less will show up in each draft), but it isn't obvious because the cards are still technically there.
The trick if you're expanding and want to support new archetypes is that you'll actually need more cards supporting those archetypes than you would at 360. That can be problematic for archetypes with shallow common support.
Sounds resonable. And how many cards do you think I need to enable an archetype? 3 cards in a 4 player game seem a little bit not enough, but I lack of experience.
Sounds resonable. And how many cards do you think I need to enable an archetype? 3 cards in a 4 player game seem a little bit not enough, but I lack of experience.
That's a tricky question. It depends a lot on the archetype and, to some degree, even the individual cards.
Some archetypes pull on things that already happen in your cube. For example, an elf archetype may already have plenty of elves and just need some enablers. Creatures are going to die, so value reanimator mostly needs the reanimation spells themselves.
But something like an enchantment deck might require a lot more space if you don't have a lot of enchantments already. And control archetypes can get away with less cards than aggro archetypes. So a hard rule probably doesn't exist.
What I'd suggest is: try to build two solid decks using that archetype out of your 360 or three decks out of your 540. If you can do that, it should be possible, if not easy, to build that archetype in a 4 player draft.
I'm considering to extend my 360 card Pauper Cube to maybe 420 (10 for each color and colorless). The Reasons:
- 1st: I want to include more archetypes and I think it's hard to cut cards for that.
- 2nd: I heard it's harder to build a 360 card cube than a bigger one. Can anybody tell me why?
Also, why I'm considering to stay at 360: We play most of the time with only 4 players, so I'm afraid the archetypes aren't possible, if the cube is to big.
So, should I extend or not? I'm not sure.
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What expanding your cube lets you do is sneak some of those in without feeling guilty. You're still reducing support for the existing archetypes (because less will show up in each draft), but it isn't obvious because the cards are still technically there.
The trick if you're expanding and want to support new archetypes is that you'll actually need more cards supporting those archetypes than you would at 360. That can be problematic for archetypes with shallow common support.
Cheers!
Kinak
Or are you interested in a Fiora flavor cube? Conspire and win!
Level 2 Judge
Some archetypes pull on things that already happen in your cube. For example, an elf archetype may already have plenty of elves and just need some enablers. Creatures are going to die, so value reanimator mostly needs the reanimation spells themselves.
But something like an enchantment deck might require a lot more space if you don't have a lot of enchantments already. And control archetypes can get away with less cards than aggro archetypes. So a hard rule probably doesn't exist.
What I'd suggest is: try to build two solid decks using that archetype out of your 360 or three decks out of your 540. If you can do that, it should be possible, if not easy, to build that archetype in a 4 player draft.
Cheers!
Kinak
Or are you interested in a Fiora flavor cube? Conspire and win!
Level 2 Judge
The only reason why I think 360 is harder to build, is because of the tough choices what to add/cut you have.
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