MTG Salvation

Akroan Crusader top 20? Are you kidding? My cube runs a bout 7 total cards that trigger it. I consider Akroan crusader basically unplayable.

Death by dragons isn't a "token" support card. it makes a token.

Mogg war marshal is the 2nd token card I was thinking of, but yeah young pyromancer fits enough.

Akroan crusader is most definitely, definitively, unplayable.

Based on my drafts, here are the top 20 red cards in my cube:

1
Flametongue Kavu
Lightning Bolt
Guttersnipe
Volcanic Geyser
Magma Jet
Blind with Anger
Brimstone Volley
Grab the Reins
Young Pyromancer
Volcanic Dragon
Incinerate
Flame Slash
Rift Bolt
Fire Imp
Whip Flare
Gore-house Chainwalker
Puncture Blast
Hellspark Elemental
Pillar of Flame
Pardic Dragon
20

I think it's been too long to be considered toe stepping
I'll mention that we are on green in the mother thread

You get the okay from me to take over. I'll work on my green ranking later today or tomorrow!

you should probably put it in a new thread at the end

Ok, I'll start....green's a little difficult...

1
Eternal witness
Rancor
Briarhorn
Grizzly Fate
Regrowth
Joraga treespeaker
Phantom centaur
Sprout swarm
Blastoderm
Llanowar Elves
Pelakka Wurm
Sylvan Library
Cultivate
Deadwood Treefolk
Constant mists
Acidic slime
Wolfir Avenger
Jade Mage
Borderland ranger
Briarpack alpha
20

Alright, noob verdict:

• Briarhorn
  
• Masked Admirers
  
• rancor
  
• Eternal Witness
  
• Beastbreaker of Bala Ged
  
• Sprout Swarm
  
• Acidic Slime
  
• Utopia Sprawl
  
• Llanowar elves x4
  
• treetop village
  
• sakura-tribe elder
  
• Borderland Ranger / civ ic wayfarer
  
• Blastoderm
  
• Wolfir Avenger
  
• Yamivaya Elder
  
• Pelakka Wurm
  
• Briarpack Alpha
  
• River Boa / Mire Boa
  
• Cultivate / Kodama's Reach
  
• Penumbra Spider
  
• Krosan Tusker

Trying to order these things without sorting through my paper cube is a nightmare, so the order here is only vaguely accurate. Sorry.

Somewhat biased by the fact that I like green aggro:

Eternal Witness
Briarhorn
Wild Mongrel
Deadwood Treefolk
Phantom Centaur
Blastoderm
Regrowth
Joraga Treespeaker
Darkthicket Wolf
Acidic Slime
Llanowar Elves
Arbor Elf
Rancor
Sprout Swarm
Cultivate
Experiment One
Treetop Village
Pelakka Wurm
Strangleroot Geist
Utopia Sprawl

Eternal Witness
Deadwood treefolk
Briarhorn
Briarpack alpha
Pelakka Wurm
Nest Invader
Borderland Ranger
Phantom Centaur
Penumbra spider
Sakura tribe elder
Edge of autumn
Masked admirers
Search for tomorrow
Rancor
Druid's familiar
Grizzly Fate
Acidic Slime
Cultivate
Treetop village
Sentinel spider

It's a little rough but so far it's not disagreeing with me too much

yeah, we need about twice as much as that to be close to consistent

not having it "officially" updating probably hurt. I still think you should make a new thread of your own and just ask for new data there.

I also don't understand why we "close" voting.

How are results compiled? I just imagine things being stored in a spreadsheet and calculated at the end.

Been kinda, MIA for a few of these...

here is my green...

1) Eternal Witness
2) Deadwood Treefolk
3) Sprout Swarm
4) Howlgeist
5) Pelakka Wurm
6) Briarhorn
7) Druid's Familiar
8) Briarpack Alpha
9) Krosan Tusker
10) Sakura-Tribe Elder
11) Rancor
12) Regrowth
13) Tromp the Domains
14) Trusted Forcemage
15) Penumbra Spider
16) Treetop Village
17) Phantom Centaur
18) Hurricane
19) Bestial Menace
20) Grizzly Fate

...bump?

Re: low turnout

I've considered throwing in my 2c for each round of voting, but each time I've backed down because I'm still new to cubing and I've felt like I don't have enough experience with the format to properly rank everything. Also I'm always afraid I'll forget something vital and then my rankings will make me look bad. Unfounded and silly that may be, but it's just how my brain works, I guess.

Normally I just look at everyone else's top 20 lists and go through each card, muttering something like "yeah totally" or "wtf, no way" to myself for each one.

I'm in roughly the same boat as Panda. I've had my cube together for a while, but I've gotten to draft it with live people maybe a half dozen times, so I still feel like I don't have enough drafts under my belt to form a solid opinion on the best/worst cards in each color.

So I'm guessing that this fell through?

Elpanda rojo and chipsinabox should both put up votes. If anybody missed a color, they should put up votes. Still no cards from theros though.

At least we can compile some data if we do that.

If no cards from Theros, I'm sure cards from Commander 2013 aren't allowed either. My lists would be a bit different if the voting was up to date. Anyway Sorry if voting on old colors mucks things up here. We should get the ball rolling on this again. Even with few voters this is helpful for potential peasant cube owners. However this new influx of members (myself included) should help some.

Ok, good work chipsi

I'm feeling very much like Panda. I like to think I have good knowledge of the format but I've drafted my cube in a group maybe.... 6-7 times total. Through like 3 major revisions. I'll make up my lists anyway, if they're goofy as all get out just ignore them, but I think my choices will probably make sense for the most part.

I'm going to go through this tomorrow or tuesday and compile the results we have. I will be using MY ratings system that has cards ranked 30 to 10 instead of 20 to 1. Anybody who wants to go in and add a color that they missed will have this window to contribute.

If you don't feel comfortable contributing, that's fine. It's ok to acknowledge that you really don't know yet.

I'll try to get the rest of mind in soon...just haven't had access to my computer for the past few days