I have Trilands, the Khans gain lanes and the Rav bounce lands, evo wilds and terrimorphic, sphere of suns. I feel like aggro tends to be primary one colour and splash another. So your aggro muli coloured cards have to be splashable and your colours mostly filled with aggro cards as slower decks get access to more colours.
I feel like Peasant is very aggro bent by is nature.
So I have a question, what do we think of Thoughtpicker witch in peasant?
I think opinions vary, but I quite like it. It's a cheap sac-outlet for the decks that want it, and in the right deck it can be a game-winning piece by completely screwing over your opponent's draws. It requires some set-up, but the pay-off is real.
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In other news, I've been working on a peasant tribal list the last couple of months. It's finally in a state that I'd like to share. I've made a thread for it in the cube lists forum (here). If anyone has the time and/or like to take a look, maybe shoot some feedback, that would be very welcome!
What kinds of archetypes/decks/combos would you expect or like to see in an old school (old frame only) peasant cube?
So far I have
Archetypes: W/R Cycling, G/R/U Madness/threshold/flashback, Onslaught Goblins, G/B sacrifice, Reanimate
Combos: Channel/Fireball, Psychatog/Berserk, Land Tax/Goblin Trenches, Land Tax/Forbid, Standstill/man lands, Pestilence/Lashknife Barrier
With the announcement that mtgsalvation is closing, I'm curious what people's plans are for continued discussion of peasant cube. The announcement said they're trying to build a new platform, and I'm hoping it works out. But I'm also curious where else people go to discuss peasant cube. This forum has been immensely helpful in building and refining my cube, especially seeing the average mtgsalvation cube and discussing new cards as each set gets spoiled.
Yeah... This sucks. is r/peasantcube an option? It basically only links here anyway. I'm curious about this new thing they're doing for when this place closes down too.
Reddit and Discord are both *****ty replacements for a real forum. I hope that whatever the mods are cooking is a real forum because otherwise we'll probably be losing an irreplaceable resource.
You can't have a 14.6k post thread on reddit with continuous conversation, and discord isn't really any better.
Reddit and Discord are both *****ty replacements for a real forum. I hope that whatever the mods are cooking is a real forum because otherwise we'll probably be losing an irreplaceable resource.
You can't have a 14.6k post thread on reddit with continuous conversation, and discord isn't really any better.
Agreed x1000. I'm glad the forum staff is looking into something to replace these forums and I hope it ends up being at least as good as if not better than what we have now. The community here has really helped me shape my peasant cube philosophy and you folks are honestly an irreplaceable resource.
Reddit and Discord are both *****ty replacements for a real forum. I hope that whatever the mods are cooking is a real forum because otherwise we'll probably be losing an irreplaceable resource.
You can't have a 14.6k post thread on reddit with continuous conversation, and discord isn't really any better.
Both are *****ty, but I will probably just use reddit unless someone has a discord setup and people use it
I'm confident that the staff here will build something worth migrating to. Reddit is a toxic wasteland, and I don't think any other sites are much better. Fingers crossed!
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We as a staff are currently working on a new site and will have more details to follow on this but there will a be a continuation site just now owned by the staff. More notes on this and its progress will be be found on the main cube forum page.
Another thing to note is I'm an avid Peasant cube and it would take my dead body before they remove the peasant and pauper cube section from the new site.
Relatively satisfied with these cuts (other than Fleshbag vs Merciless on what to cut for Plaguecrafter). They have been panning out quite well. NOW! For for the huge pile of foils I have been collecting for this cube that I need to figure out if there is a spot for them. These haven’t been actually added yet. I am just brainstorming. Need some feedback on if these are solid cuts or not:
Saheeli, Sublime Artificer in for Gelectrode as it is never as appealing for other players as I want it to be. Could also label this as a red or a blue card instead? Nahiri, Storm of Stone in for Honored Crop-Captain and (see below) Integrity // Intervention in for Renegade Wheelsmith Big changes to Boros. Not sure if I am going to like taking out both the Crop Captain AND the Wheelsmith. They were solid for what Boros wanted to do. Nahiri has performed crazy the few times I have got to use her and the options on Integrity/Intervention can be a game winner. Cruel Celebrant in for Maw of the Obzedat. Both cards do what I want Orzhov to do, but I think Cruel is better due to CMC and ability. Angrath, Captain of Chaos in for Rite of the Raging Storm and call it a red card.. f it. I was super close to expanding my guild section to 4 cards thanks to this, Saheeli, etc. Decided to label this as Red since it is hybrid, though. Kasima, Enigmatic Mentor in for Mist Raven. Creates bodies and loots. Should be better in the long run. Band Together in for Epic Confrontation they have the same goal, but I think the fact you won’t lose your creature makes this better. And you can use two of your duders to kill a larger one (the pump on Confrontation also helps with that, I know). I debated on keeping both since it is a useful ability, but couldn’t think of other cuts. Bleeding Edge in for Quest for the Gravelord MAYBE?? I haven’t a clue. This card is removal and also makes a dude, so I could cut nearly anything. Quest hasn’t been doing much, but we just may be playing bad magic. I like it in theory, so I am not sure if this is the right cut. Eternal Taskmasater in for Orc Sureshot I have just been trying to find an excuse to cut this card. Don’t care for it much. Adanto Vanguard in for Whitemane Lion as suggested by a user back in January. Pteramander in for Phantasmal Bear, seems like a solid choice. I still need a foil Pteramander… Light up the Stage in for Titan’s Strength combat tricks are meh. Card “draw” should be much better. Rhythm of the Wild in for Voltaic Brawler not much of a tough choice here. Frilled Mystic in for Bounding Krasis I loved the tricks that can be had with Krasis. I think ole Mystic Snake is gonna be better, though. Sphinx of the Guildpact in for Pierce Strider should be a solid upgrade.
Other cards I have ready to roll, but not sure if they deserve a spot at 360 (well, 375) Huatli’s Raptor could replace Qasali Pridemage since there seems to be enough removal in those colors Kongming, “Sleeping Dragon” nice little anthem Snapping Sailback costs a lot for a situational enrage trigger? Nahiri’s Mechinations took forever to find this card in foil in my area. Then added 2 other cards from later sets (Nahiri and the split card). Not sure if worth my time now. Mortify do I really want removal in a guild slot? Palace Jailer I really want to find a spot for this card but not sure if the Monarch mechanic is something I want to introduce in Peasant. Foil was hella spicy find. Sinister Sabotage – Was told this is NOT worth in 360 Meteor Golem – Was told this is NOT worth in 360 Sunhome Stalwart as suggested, went with Adanto Vanguard over this for now? Adventurous Impulse digs and has a very low chance of whiffing in typical Gx decks Maulfist Revolutionary I think an Evolution Sage would be better. Speaking of which… is Evo Sage cubable? Cause she’s one of my favorite War cards… Wretched Gryff – There was talk about these Emerge duders but can’t remember what was decided for them Abundant Maw see above Wanted Scoundrels – card is sweet! Beautiful foil! But… holy drawback. I need some people with experience to chime in on this one. Seed Guardian – Pretty sure this isn’t worth it in 360
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I know this is a good amount of info thrown out at once. Just trying to catch up. Haha. These last few sets have been hectic. I am 99% sure I am missing stuff that I should have added. I nearly forgot about Rhythm and Pteramander, for instance…. If you spot something I am missing, whether new or old, let me know. I am always down to modify my cube, add cards to solidify what each color / guild wants to do, and balance it out.
Cruel Celebrant is the 4th one of those effects, which seems a bit excessive at 360 to me, but ymmv.
If you're trying to support an aggressive RG shell Voltaic Brawler is too ridiculous not to run. A 2 mana 4/3 trampler with very few asterisks is nuts.
Kongming, "Sleeping Dragon" is pretty borderline at 360, but he's not bad.
Nahiri's Machinations just doesn't do anything in practice. The indestructible is not relevant more than you would like, the pings are expensive, and it is just dead when behind. Basically any removal spell can effectively do what it's trying to.
Palace Jailer is one of the most powerful cards we have access to. Monarch is a fairly interesting mechanic, but Jailer can make it oppressive.
Seed Guardian just has too many things going against it: double green, weakness to white and blue removal, not attacking well, and needing support to make a sizable token.
Most of the other changes look fine, though Mist Raven for Kasmina is a bit strange to me considering they go in pretty different decks. The other cards listed are playable, but there's other cards with similar or higher power level that aren't as clunky, so there's no need to run them unless you have a specific reason.
Peasant Cube on a Budget - The Wrap-Up
I got the cube together! How much did I get right (or wrong)?
You can give it a draft here if you're so inclined.
I've only given it a test draft a couple of times myself so far. It feels like it falls into the archetypes fairly well as I'm drafting it, but I do miss the tri-lands for one...
I personally love Discord. I think the structure of a discord group is great for building a community. Join our peasant cube discord now: https://discord.gg/2ZryxaU
I feel like Peasant is very aggro bent by is nature.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
Peasant cube: Cards I own
I think opinions vary, but I quite like it. It's a cheap sac-outlet for the decks that want it, and in the right deck it can be a game-winning piece by completely screwing over your opponent's draws. It requires some set-up, but the pay-off is real.
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In other news, I've been working on a peasant tribal list the last couple of months. It's finally in a state that I'd like to share. I've made a thread for it in the cube lists forum (here). If anyone has the time and/or like to take a look, maybe shoot some feedback, that would be very welcome!
My Cubes:
Peasant Travel Cube on CubeCobra (180 cards, modern frames) (mtgsalvation thread can be found here)
I had a blog for a while @ peasant-cube.blogspot.com where I may or may not post again, lol
So far I have
Archetypes: W/R Cycling, G/R/U Madness/threshold/flashback, Onslaught Goblins, G/B sacrifice, Reanimate
Combos: Channel/Fireball, Psychatog/Berserk, Land Tax/Goblin Trenches, Land Tax/Forbid, Standstill/man lands, Pestilence/Lashknife Barrier
My Cubes:
Peasant Travel Cube on CubeCobra (180 cards, modern frames) (mtgsalvation thread can be found here)
I had a blog for a while @ peasant-cube.blogspot.com where I may or may not post again, lol
I just ran roughshod over someone with in my dimir control deck thanks to it plus curse of shallow graves and reassebling skeleton.
Yes it was a weird deck
Also, it may be too "unfun" for people. My opponent decided that he had enough magic for one day after that experience
My CubeCobra (draft 20 card packs, 2 packs.)
430, Peasant, Very Unpowered
Why you should take your hybrids out of your gold section
Manamath Article
2023 Average Peasant Cube|and Discussion
Because I have more decks than fit in a signature
Useful Resources:
MTGSalvation tags
EDHREC
ManabaseCrafter
You can't have a 14.6k post thread on reddit with continuous conversation, and discord isn't really any better.
Draft it on Cubetutor here, and CubeCobra here.
Treasure Cruise did nothing wrong.
Agreed x1000. I'm glad the forum staff is looking into something to replace these forums and I hope it ends up being at least as good as if not better than what we have now. The community here has really helped me shape my peasant cube philosophy and you folks are honestly an irreplaceable resource.
MTGS Average Peasant Cube 2023 Edition
Follow me. I tweet.
Both are *****ty, but I will probably just use reddit unless someone has a discord setup and people use it
Does riptide lab have a set peasant section or just all a cluster**** of everything?
My 720 Peasant Cube
Another thing to note is I'm an avid Peasant cube and it would take my dead body before they remove the peasant and pauper cube section from the new site.
Time strikes again.
How much is left?
My CubeCobra (draft 20 card packs, 2 packs.)
430, Peasant, Very Unpowered
Why you should take your hybrids out of your gold section
Manamath Article
2023 Average Peasant Cube|and Discussion
Because I have more decks than fit in a signature
Useful Resources:
MTGSalvation tags
EDHREC
ManabaseCrafter
I'm hoping that Salvation's successor site is adequate for this community. Reddit is cool, but it doesn't really facilitate long-term discussions.
My Type 4 stack (Cube Tutor link)
Ok, I am a little behind here and there (and trying to get as much done in the next month before MTGSalv closes...). I just did a small update to my cube a few weeks ago. I am now trying to catch up to war. Been super busy and barely enough time to play, let alone dive deep into cuts.
Last update was:
Deadly Recluse > Kraul Harpooner
Stasis Snare > Conclave Tribunal
Frost Lynx > Murmuring Mystic
Merciless Executioner > Plaguecrafter
Immolating Souleater > Goblin Cratermaker
Relatively satisfied with these cuts (other than Fleshbag vs Merciless on what to cut for Plaguecrafter). They have been panning out quite well. NOW! For for the huge pile of foils I have been collecting for this cube that I need to figure out if there is a spot for them. These haven’t been actually added yet. I am just brainstorming. Need some feedback on if these are solid cuts or not:
Saheeli, Sublime Artificer in for Gelectrode as it is never as appealing for other players as I want it to be. Could also label this as a red or a blue card instead?
Nahiri, Storm of Stone in for Honored Crop-Captain and (see below)
Integrity // Intervention in for Renegade Wheelsmith Big changes to Boros. Not sure if I am going to like taking out both the Crop Captain AND the Wheelsmith. They were solid for what Boros wanted to do. Nahiri has performed crazy the few times I have got to use her and the options on Integrity/Intervention can be a game winner.
Cruel Celebrant in for Maw of the Obzedat. Both cards do what I want Orzhov to do, but I think Cruel is better due to CMC and ability.
Angrath, Captain of Chaos in for Rite of the Raging Storm and call it a red card.. f it. I was super close to expanding my guild section to 4 cards thanks to this, Saheeli, etc. Decided to label this as Red since it is hybrid, though.
Kasima, Enigmatic Mentor in for Mist Raven. Creates bodies and loots. Should be better in the long run.
Band Together in for Epic Confrontation they have the same goal, but I think the fact you won’t lose your creature makes this better. And you can use two of your duders to kill a larger one (the pump on Confrontation also helps with that, I know). I debated on keeping both since it is a useful ability, but couldn’t think of other cuts.
Bleeding Edge in for Quest for the Gravelord MAYBE?? I haven’t a clue. This card is removal and also makes a dude, so I could cut nearly anything. Quest hasn’t been doing much, but we just may be playing bad magic. I like it in theory, so I am not sure if this is the right cut.
Eternal Taskmasater in for Orc Sureshot I have just been trying to find an excuse to cut this card. Don’t care for it much.
Adanto Vanguard in for Whitemane Lion as suggested by a user back in January.
Pteramander in for Phantasmal Bear, seems like a solid choice. I still need a foil Pteramander…
Light up the Stage in for Titan’s Strength combat tricks are meh. Card “draw” should be much better.
Rhythm of the Wild in for Voltaic Brawler not much of a tough choice here.
Frilled Mystic in for Bounding Krasis I loved the tricks that can be had with Krasis. I think ole Mystic Snake is gonna be better, though.
Sphinx of the Guildpact in for Pierce Strider should be a solid upgrade.
Other cards I have ready to roll, but not sure if they deserve a spot at 360 (well, 375)
Huatli’s Raptor could replace Qasali Pridemage since there seems to be enough removal in those colors
Kongming, “Sleeping Dragon” nice little anthem
Snapping Sailback costs a lot for a situational enrage trigger?
Nahiri’s Mechinations took forever to find this card in foil in my area. Then added 2 other cards from later sets (Nahiri and the split card). Not sure if worth my time now.
Mortify do I really want removal in a guild slot?
Palace Jailer I really want to find a spot for this card but not sure if the Monarch mechanic is something I want to introduce in Peasant. Foil was hella spicy find.
Sinister Sabotage – Was told this is NOT worth in 360
Meteor Golem – Was told this is NOT worth in 360
Sunhome Stalwart as suggested, went with Adanto Vanguard over this for now?
Adventurous Impulse digs and has a very low chance of whiffing in typical Gx decks
Maulfist Revolutionary I think an Evolution Sage would be better. Speaking of which… is Evo Sage cubable? Cause she’s one of my favorite War cards…
Wretched Gryff – There was talk about these Emerge duders but can’t remember what was decided for them
Abundant Maw see above
Wanted Scoundrels – card is sweet! Beautiful foil! But… holy drawback. I need some people with experience to chime in on this one.
Seed Guardian – Pretty sure this isn’t worth it in 360
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I know this is a good amount of info thrown out at once. Just trying to catch up. Haha. These last few sets have been hectic. I am 99% sure I am missing stuff that I should have added. I nearly forgot about Rhythm and Pteramander, for instance…. If you spot something I am missing, whether new or old, let me know. I am always down to modify my cube, add cards to solidify what each color / guild wants to do, and balance it out.
http://www.cubetutor.com/cubeblog/36546
My Peasant Cube Forum
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/the-cube-forum/cube-lists/682833-360-peasant-hasteds-cube
My Riviera Live Draft Cube
http://www.cubetutor.com/cubeblog/35647
If you're trying to support an aggressive RG shell Voltaic Brawler is too ridiculous not to run. A 2 mana 4/3 trampler with very few asterisks is nuts.
Kongming, "Sleeping Dragon" is pretty borderline at 360, but he's not bad.
Nahiri's Machinations just doesn't do anything in practice. The indestructible is not relevant more than you would like, the pings are expensive, and it is just dead when behind. Basically any removal spell can effectively do what it's trying to.
Palace Jailer is one of the most powerful cards we have access to. Monarch is a fairly interesting mechanic, but Jailer can make it oppressive.
Seed Guardian just has too many things going against it: double green, weakness to white and blue removal, not attacking well, and needing support to make a sizable token.
Most of the other changes look fine, though Mist Raven for Kasmina is a bit strange to me considering they go in pretty different decks. The other cards listed are playable, but there's other cards with similar or higher power level that aren't as clunky, so there's no need to run them unless you have a specific reason.
I got the cube together! How much did I get right (or wrong)?
You can give it a draft here if you're so inclined.
I've only given it a test draft a couple of times myself so far. It feels like it falls into the archetypes fairly well as I'm drafting it, but I do miss the tri-lands for one...
My Stupidly Large Number of Current Decks
PucaTrade with me!
The Multiplayer Power Rankings
Cube: the Gittening (My Multiplayer Cube) - MTGS Cube List | @ CubeTutor
The N00b Cube (Peasant cube for new players) - MTGS Cube List | @ CubeTutor
Happy belated, and final birthday, peasant cube thread.
My CubeCobra (draft 20 card packs, 2 packs.)
430, Peasant, Very Unpowered
Why you should take your hybrids out of your gold section
Manamath Article
My C/Ube on Cube Cobra
But, I wanted to say I’ve enjoyed being part of this community. Thanks for the discussions, insights and general passtime.
My Cubes:
Peasant Travel Cube on CubeCobra (180 cards, modern frames) (mtgsalvation thread can be found here)
I had a blog for a while @ peasant-cube.blogspot.com where I may or may not post again, lol