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So I take a look at your articles+steve man and come up with this list. So I'll like to ask you for a favor when you got time.

How many of these cards would you definitely keep and think of it as uncuttable cube staple? I want to save some money because I'm building a new cube from a scratch.

White
Dauntless Bodyguard
Giver of Runes
Usher of the Fallen
Cathar Commando
Intrepid Adversary
Lion Sash
Luminarch Aspirant
Seasoned Hallowblade
Adeline, Resplendent Cathar
Skyclave Apparition
White Plume Adventurer
Elite Spellbinder
Palace Jailer
Seasoned Dungeoneer
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Solitude
Fateful Absence
Prismatic Ending
Sevinne's Reclamation
Portable Hole
Swift Reconfiguration
Borrowed Time
Cave of the Frost Dragon
Winds of Abandon
Court of Grace

Blue
Ledger Shredder
Sea Gate Stormcaller
Suspicious Stowaway
Thieving Skydiver
Hullbreacher
Poppet Stitcher
Urza, Lord High Artificer
Feywild Caretaker
Torrential Gearhulk
Narset, Parter of Veils
Tezzeret, Betrayer of Flesh
Brainstorm
Brazen Borrower
Jwari Disruption
Lose Focus
Commit // Memory
Cryptic Command
Occult Epiphany
Gitaxian Probe
Ponder
Shark Typhoon
Faerie Conclave

Barrin, Tolarian Archmage
Consider

Black
Dungeon Crawler
Gutterbones
Blade of the Oni
Cabal Initiate
Dauthi Voidwalker
Dogged Detective
Nullpriest of Oblivion
Skyclave Shade
Opposition Agent
Rotting Regisaur
Sedgemoor Witch
Nighthawk Scavenger
Rankle, Master of Pranks
Ravenous Chupacabra
Archon of Cruelty
Liliana, the Last Hope
Fatal Push
Baleful Mastery
Murderous Rider
Lethal Scheme
Grief
Bloodchief's Thirst
Dread Fugue
Inquisition of Kozilek
Collective Brutality
Exhume
Living Death
Hive of the Eye Tyrant
Yahenni's Expertise
Incarnation Technique

Red
Dragon's Rage Channeler
Falkenrath Pit Fighter
Monastery Swiftspear
Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer
Dire Fleet Daredevil
Bloodthirsty Adversary
Dismissive Pyromancer
Earthshaker Khenra
Eidolon of the Great Revel
Flametongue Yearling
Goblin Cratermaker
Goblin Engineer
Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin
Laelia, the Blade Reforged
Legion Warboss
Seasoned Pyromancer
Twinshot Sniper
Bonecrusher Giant
Cathartic Pyre
Lightning Strike
Searing Spear
Fury
Embereth Shieldbreaker
Firebolt
Den of the Bugbear
Shatterskull Smashing
Phoenix of Ash

Green
Ascendant Packleader
Gilded Goose
Hexdrinker
Llanowar Elves
Pelt Collector
Outland Liberator
Sakura-Tribe Elder
Tangled Florahedron
Wall of Roots
Courser of Kruphix
Pest Infestation
Esika's Chariot
Oracle of Mul Daya
Questing Beast
Undermountain Adventurer
Deep Forest Hermit
Deranged Hermit
Titan of Industry
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
Nissa, Who Shakes the World
Abundant Harvest
Life from the Loam
Bala Ged Recovery
Selvala's Stampede
Monster Manual
Boseiju, Who Endures
Lair of the Hydra
Voracious Hydra
Turntimber Symbiosis // Turntimber, Serpentine Wood
Vivien, Monster’s Advocate

Colorless
Hangarback Walker
Walking Ballista
Ancient Stone Idol
Triplicate Titan
Karn, Scion of Urza
Currency Converter
Eater of Virtue
Memory Jar
Fabled Passage
Prismatic Vista

Multicolor
Scheming Fence
Teferi, Time Raveler
Notion Thief
Ob Nixilis, the Adversary
Wrenn and Six
Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes
Avacyn's Pilgrim
Knight of Autumn
Damn
Prismari Command
Grist, the Hunger Tide
Rip Apart
Oko, Thief of Crowns
Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath
Hydroid Krasis
Assassin's Trophy
Lurrus of the Dream-Den
Lutri, the Spellchaser
Vanishing Verse
Ignoble Hierarch
Master of Death
Baleful Strix

From my point of view in a typical MTGO Vintage Cube setting (sans storm). The 100% tier is pretty solid, IMO, everything else can go up or down a tier depending on your own wants and needs.

100%
- White Plume Adventurer
- Palace Jailer
- Seasoned Dungeoneer
- Solitude
- Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
- Thieving Skydiver
- Brainstorm
- Brazen Borrower
- Ponder
- Shark Typhoon
- Dauthi Voidwalker
- Murderous Rider
- Grief
- Inquisition of Kozilek
- Monastery Swiftspear
- Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer
- Laelia, the Blade Reforged
- Bonecrusher Giant
- Fury
- Shatterskull Smashing
- Hexdrinker
- Llanowar Elves
- Pest Infestation
- Esika's Chariot
- Questing Beast
- Deep Forest Hermit
- Nissa, Who Shakes the World
- Prismatic Vista
- Teferi, Time Raveler
- Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes
- Knight of Autumn
- Grist, the Hunger Tide
- Oko, Thief of Crowns
- Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath
- Ignoble Hierarch
- Baleful Strix

90%
- Occult Epiphany
- Hullbreacher
- Narset, Parter of Veils
- Urza, Lord High Artificer
- Prismatic Ending
- Dauntless Bodyguard
- Giver of Runes
- Usher of the Fallen
- Lion Sash
- Luminarch Aspirant
- Seasoned Hallowblade
- Winds of Abandon
- Rankle, Master of Pranks
- Archon of Cruelty
- Liliana, the Last Hope
- Bloodchief's Thirst
- Collective Brutality
- Exhume
- Earthshaker Khenra
- Seasoned Pyromancer
- Phoenix of Ash
- Wall of Roots
- Courser of Kruphix
- Undermountain Adventurer
- Deranged Hermit
- Abundant Harvest
- Selvala's Stampede
- Karn, Scion of Urza
- Scheming Fence
- Wrenn and Six
- Prismari Command
- Assassin's Trophy
- Lurrus of the Dream-Den
- Lutri, the Spellchaser


80%
- Sedgemoor Witch
- Blade of the Oni
- Consider
- Gitaxian Probe
- Swift Reconfiguration
- Portable Hole
- Torrential Gearhulk
- Dire Fleet Daredevil
- Bloodthirsty Adversary
- Flametongue Yearling
- Goblin Cratermaker
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
- Hangarback Walker
- Walking Ballista
- Currency Converter
- Fabled Passage
- Ob Nixilis, the Adversary
- Hydroid Krasis

Quote from Lord_Tiram »

Hi wtwlf,
I was wondering whether it might be ok for me to ask you for feedback on my cube.
Specifically, whether you think there are certain cards that should be replaced by cards currently missing (e.g. better available removal or creature options), or whether any obvious cards supporting existing archetypes are missing.

I have been following your cube for close to 13 years now; I am still very frequently checking for any cube updates you may have implemented, and I am still very much looking forward to your cube set (p)reviews.

My cube is based on your cube, but has been at 420 cards for a while now.
We almost always do 4-player Burn-Two drafts (with 5x 21-card boosters per player, for a total of 35 picks).

The main differences compared to your cube are:
- No Power (and a few "Power-adjacent" cards)
- Less color fixing (~60 cards of our 120-card delta are fixing lands and artifacts; I enjoy that fixing needs to be picked very highly. There are a few more less powerful but more flexible fixing lands and artifacts in my cube.)
- No "Draw 7" Theme
- Less support for "Cheat a fatty into play" (but still available)
- Less focus on the artifact.dec (but still supported)
- Very limited "Land recursion" (mostly to make repeatable land destruction a bit harder)
- Avoidance of cards forcing players to track creature types

Here are links to Cube Cobra:
- My Cube: https://cubecobra.com/cube/overview/89171
- Comparison to your Cube: https://cubecobra.com/cube/compare/5f8c912185458210437930e5/to/5d61aa23b8ec593ca4b76ca6

I would very much appreciate your feedback, if you have the chance to take a look; of course, I totally understand if this is too much hassle.

Thank you