Just noticed I didn't throw Spikeshot Elder in yet. Now, I gues I'll remove that Hellkite Charger.
-Spikeshot Elder
+Hellkite Charger
Oh, and is Arc Trail 360 material? I like Arc Lightning a fair bit more, but I'm pretty unsure.
I think Wtwlf reported that it's at least as good, since Arc Lighting is usually only a 2-for-1 anyway. So the cheaper cost more than makes up for not having a third target.
I'm considering to order following card which will most likely rip my bank account in half.
-Force of Will
-Tarmogoyf
-Mana Drain
Any more "expensive" card currently not in my cube (excluding card in powered cube)? I'll like to know of them before hand so I can get to working more part time job.
Good Point. I'll count any card in the power 9 and card such as Library of Alexandria as 'powered'. I also will stay away from alpha/beta land.
Well, my problem with those card is that their price (I consider alpha/beta land as the entire set) is too high. So, any card above $100 range perhap? With an exception of Mana Drain. I just love the art on that card too much.
Sarcomancy is already in. I got 5 of the Zen fetch so far and waiting to find a good deal on judge foil allied fetch land. I just got offer $130 for a set of 5 of them. Not sure if I'm taking it yet.
The following card is already in my hand, but is under conderation on what to take out.
(The artifacts are directly going in without anything getting axe).
Elspeth Tirel
Koth of the Hammer
Mimic Vat
Sword of Body and Mind
Molten Tail Masticore
It's this change, on the post at the top of the page.
-Karmic Guide
+Elspeth Tirel
-Makeshift Mannequin
+Skinrender
-Spikeshot Elder
+Hellkite Charger
-Fireball
+Koth of the Hammer
-Rift Bolt
+Hearth Kami
-Offering to Asha
+Venser, the Sojourner
+Mimic Vat
+Ratchet Bomb
+Sword of Body and Mind
+Chimeric Mass
+Molten-Tail Masticore
The rest of the card will most likely be put on order and 'll be here on the next big update.
Also, what is Morphoid? I tried to click on it but it doesn't take me anywhere.
In additional to the above problem, I just update the OP with my bench card. I'm not sure if the definition match, but they're all just the card that I have that I'm not sure what to take out yet.
And yes, I finally decided to bite and buy that fetch offer. So I have a full set of all 10 fetch which all are foil now:p, althrough I have to get to another house to get the enemy-fetchland. Man, these allied foil look pretty, althrough I got to admited that my money's bleeding by a fair margin.
I'll just copy the bench card from the OP to put in this post, so it'll be easier to view.
i'm not sure if this is what you wanted, but i went through your bench and suggested swaps to get those cards in (with some exceptions and qualifications).
you can choose any of those five to cut. personally, i would cut the charger, rift bolt, and the champion. as much as i love the charger, you don't need that many big guys in red. rift bolt isn't good enough for 360 in my opinion. and champion is solid but koth does something similar but is more powerful and more versatile.
not much to say, i just think the cards on the left don't make the cut in a 360 and the cards on the right do. and you need to get woodfall primus or terastodon in here soon.
i would probably leave chimeric mass and maybe ratchet bomb out of a 360, myself. scepter and obelisk are definite cuts, but the rest of these are pretty iffy. i'd be comfortable dropping processor as well, but your mileage may vary on that one.
i don't really advocate this. both cards are unusual choices, neither support very aggressive decks. currently i run neither but i plan to test sarkhan soon. i actually like void a lot, but it's not better than bit blast, terminate, or redcap by any stretch of the imagination.
pure upgrade part three, but i'd rather see absorb instead of teferi's moat in here.
bouncelands --> fetchlands
the fetchlands need to be in here, and they are all unquestionably better than the bouncelands. but what you should do instead is just cut one card from each color pair in your multicolor section. based on what you have, i'd run
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
Thx QQ! That's exactly what I want. However, my '360' cube is actually currently 350 card. So there's 10 tinkable card slot to play around. I'm not sure if I should
-keep the Karoos (10 card spot)
-have 5 new artifact and 5 incoming ultilities land
-have 5 new artifact and 5 shard color
-Have 10 dual Multicolor
Or something else entirely. Do you have any suggestion for that?
1. all the fetches belong in a 360, especially with shocklands present.
2. your multicolor should be cut down to 35 cards maximum anyway, and less would be fine.
so the fetches need to go in, and it doesn't matter how. but even if you don't cut anything for them, it would be healthy for your cube to be running less multicolor anyway. so you could cut the cards i left out of the 3-per-pair plan i posted to put something else in (proxied beta duals? more monocolor? utility lands?).
so add the fetches for sure. and beyond that, my choice would be to cut multicolor to add original duals or utility lands.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
Excellent advice, QQ. I can say I agree on almost every single point. Although I'd probably leave Orzhov Signet instead of Selesnya Signet but that's because we see more BW control decks than GW ramp decks.
i don't really advocate this. both cards are unusual choices, neither support very aggressive decks. currently i run neither but i plan to test sarkhan soon. i actually like void a lot, but it's not better than bit blast, terminate, or redcap by any stretch of the imagination.
To comment on my own testing of Sarkhan, I think he's a fine curve topper for BR aggro. If left untouched he brains your opponent for ten the following turn (five from the dragon in combat and five from Sarkhan). I'm absolutely fine with that on turn six in my aggro deck since it usually means I win. He's still near the bottom of my mulitcolor choices for my cube (I'm at 6 per), but he's been surprisingly good so far.
Alright, a new year upgrade! This’ll most likely be the last of the changes I’ll make this year. Pernicious Deed and Woodfall Primus also happens to fall into my hand.
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Out
Wild Nacalt
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
I don’t think I have the space I need, and this has been unbalancing the colors for a while. I’ll move the Wild Nacalt to the Bench for now, through. I feel like it’s too good to remove completely.
White
Out
Scepter of Dominance
In
Elspeth Tirel
I like Ajani, a lot. We’ll see how these changes go.
Black
Out
Makeshift Mannequin
In
Skinrender
I know this change is not as suggested. But Makeshift Mannequin has been underperforming in comparison to Ob Nixilis, who’s been excellent.
Red
Out
Rift Bolt
Hellkite Charger
Fireball
In
Heart Kami
Spikeshot Elder
Koth of the Hammer
I know Fireball is not a suggest cut. But I think 3/50 X spell in red (Banefire, Earthquake, Fireball) is too much. I’ll put the Champion in for now.
Green
Out
Briarhorn
Rampaging Baloths
Rude Awakening
In
Lotus Cobra
Obstinate Baloth
Woodfall Primus
Basically, taken all three card that doesn’t seem to make a cut at 360 out. Although I’m not sure if Baloth is 360 or not.
Multicolor
Out for Space Cut Reason
Life// Death
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Intimidation Bolt
Behemoth Sledge
Sarkhan the Mad
Agony Warp
Rumbling Slum
Kiss of Amesha
Voidslime
Castigate
Out
Putrefy
Offering to Asha
Pillory of the Sleepless
In
Pernicious Deed
Venser, the Sojourner
Vindicate
I decided to decrease it to 30, as suggested. Some of the card is simply not draft. I’m not sure about Putrefy/Putrid Leech. But I like the Leech too much for its potential in aggro deck.
Land
In
Scalding Tarn
Verdant Catacombs
Arid Mesa
Misty Rainforest
Marsh Flats
Windswept Heath
Wooded Foothills
Flooded Strand
Bloodstained Mire
Polluted Delta
Artifact
In
Mimic Vat
Molten-Tail Masticore
Sword of Body and Mind
Ratchet Bomb
Chimeric Bomb
After cutting out the multicolor, I don’t have to take any out for these guys. My cube is now at 355, so some things that’ll move card spot around might happen again in the next update.
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Now, I’ll like some suggestion. If there’s ANY cards in my list that you don’t think is good enough to be in 360 cube, please say so. And if there’s any cards that you think should be in a 360 cube and isn’t in my list, please also say so. The only limit on the suggest card is that the card price is below $100. Here’s my list of things to buy currently.
-Force of Will
-Mana Drain
-Morphling (I’m not too sure on him. The rule changes seem to weaken him, a lot)
-Yawgmoth’s Will
-Yawgmoth’s Bargain
-Plague Sliver
If running +1 3c card is a problem for you, just move Wild Nacatl to green and cut Basking Rootwalla or Wild Dogs.
That’s a great idea. I think I’ll remove Basking Rootwalla for it.
I would have removed Martial Coup for Elspeth2, since she also produces tokens and wraths the board..
It's just that Martial Coup have turn a lot more game around than Scepter of Dominance. Scepter somehow always manage to get shatter by random things every time it manage to hit the table.
Hve you considered cutting Flame Javelin instead of Rift Bolt, since 3 damage for R seams like a much better deal than 4 for 2RR..
I have, but I found that the suspend usually is too late. I like the ability to hit for one more better, even if it cost some more mana. Flame Javelin is on the cutting block currently through.
Rite of Replication is a potential cut from blue, since even if it is a fun card and almost an instant win if you kick it, there is just not enough room in such a small cube imo..
Yes, it will most likely have to go as soon as some good blue card got here. Too bad, it's kind of my pet card too. But I like power over playing with favorite cards.
Oh, some of those look amazing. Another question. Do Volrath's Stronghold/Treetop Village/Shelldock Isle would be in their respective color? And should I run those as 5 land of 'specific color'?
I"ll try and make the manland in when I manage to change my cube to guild system.
Would you play Treetop Village in a non-green deck? No? Then it's a green card. But realistically eidolon is correct. Once you unbalance the numbers, you should move them to their colors. I run 1 land in black, 2 in white, 3 in blue, 2 in red, and 1 in green, so I can't really run them as lands without messing with balance.
And on better part of the news, I adjust my multicolor section to guild system to brace the incoming changes. Changes from now on will be made to those (No more aggro signet+bourceland, awesome!).
The only change I don't like is Niv-Mizzet over the signet. I'm not a huge fan of the U/R signet but Niv-Mizzet was not worth his brutal mana cost. A 4/4 for 6 that is hard to cast and does nothing until you untap with it just isn't worth a slot especially when each of those colors already has better finishers. He's also got Visara syndrome where he really wants to attack and he really wants to not attack and use his ability. He's a bit confused.
i don't like losing either of these guys. i'd consider cutting innocent blood, profane command, or disfigure instead. those are all good spells, but i like the kill spell strapped to the dude more. tough call, though.
-Obstinate Baloth
-Wild Dogs
-Call of the Herd
this is really tough, but i would cut stonewood invocation and harmonize over two of these. i'd probably end up cutting call of the herd but wild dogs might be the better cut.
-Izzet Signet
+Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
i would straight up reverse this. 6cc guy who is hard to cast and fails the terminate test is not what red/blue needs. it has enough great finishers and i think it would prefer the signet.
+Goblin Trenches
this is good but you should consider duergar hedge-mage if you find yourself needing more disenchants.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
i don't like losing either of these guys. i'd consider cutting innocent blood, profane command, or disfigure instead. those are all good spells, but i like the kill spell strapped to the dude more. tough call, though.
this is really tough, but i would cut stonewood invocation and harmonize over two of these. i'd probably end up cutting call of the herd but wild dogs might be the better cut.
Umm. Stonewood Inovocation is already getting cut. I guess Harmonize can get cut over one of those through. I’m a little sad that green lose a spell. Anyways, I think that Obstinate Baloth might be the best of the three to keep.
i would straight up reverse this. 6cc guy who is hard to cast and fails the terminate test is not what red/blue needs. it has enough great finishers and i think it would prefer the signet.
The only change I don't like is Niv-Mizzet over the signet. I'm not a huge fan of the U/R signet but Niv-Mizzet was not worth his brutal mana cost. A 4/4 for 6 that is hard to cast and does nothing until you untap with it just isn't worth a slot especially when each of those colors already has better finishers. He's also got Visara syndrome where he really wants to attack and he really wants to not attack and use his ability. He's a bit confused.
-Rite of Replication
-Into the Roil
-Future Sight
+Mana Drain
+Force of Will
+Time Spiral
-Rite of Replication
-Into the Roil
-Dismiss
+Mana Drain
+Force of Will
+Time Spiral
Future Sight is gone instead of Dismiss. That’s about it.
Black
-Disfigure
+Plague Sliver
-Nakrataal/Bone Shredder
+Plague Sliver
I said it diffirently before, but now I think Innocent Blood has better potential than Disfigure. And I love profane command way too much.
Red
-Flame Javelin
+Chain Lightning
-Flame Javelin
+Chain Lightning
Zero change here, moving on.
Green
-Stonewood Invocation
-Obstinate Baloth
-Wild Dogs
-Call of the Herd
-Harmonized
+Deranged Hermit
+Ohran Viper
+Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
+Tarmogoyf
+Berserk
-Stonewood Invocation
-Obstinate Baloth
-Wild Dogs
-Call of the Herd
+Deranged Hermit
+Ohran Viper
+Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
+Tarmogoyf
Tough section. I’m really sad. Like, really, really sad. I thought I can save one of either Obstinate Baloth/Wild Dogs/Call of the Herd by cutting Harmonize instead. Then Berserk got here…
Artifact
-Obelisk of Alara
+Sol Ring
-Obelisk of Alara
+Sol Ring
Funny how easiest change to made come right after the hardest change to made. Moving on.
Some cuts of signet has no complaint here, but it do got a few complants from some people in my playgroups. It look like more Signet is staying than I wanted to… For now.
Multicolor
Golgari
-Golgari Signet
+Putrefy[/
-Golgari Signet
+Putrefy
Nothing here.
Izzet
No change
-Izzet Signet
+Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
This section is fair enough.
Boros
-Boros Signet
+Goblin Trenches
-Boros Signet
+Goblin Trenches
Well, it’s staying the same for now. I’m seriously considering Duergar Hedge-Mage, but none just happen to be on my hand for now. If some, by any chance of luck, happen to come across me. I’ll be sure to make that change.
Selesnya
-Selesnya Signet
+Behemoth Sledge
-Selesnya Signet
+Behemoth Sledge
Done, and it’ll going to be Mirari’s Wake very, very soon!
Simic
No change
-Simic Signet
+Voidslime
Some players in my playgroups just like color-fixing more than the voidslime. I guess things don’t always work the way you want it to.
Gruul
-Gruul Signet
+Giant Solifuge
-Gruul Signet
+Giant Solifuge
Luciky, no objection. Aggressive creature in aggressive color pair is awesomeness!
Rakdos
-Rakdos Signet
+Sarkhan the Mad
-Rakdos Signet
+Sarkhan the Mad
Not sure what to say here, but I like my dragon(s).
Dimir
No change
-Dimir Signet
+Agony Warp
Yes, another objection. Look like the Signet’s staying over a gas for now.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
Another set of upgrade, not as nearly as costly as the last one, through. I don't think anymore of my upgrade will cost that much anymore, except when I add in the dual land, but that's a while into the future.
Here's this round of upgrade.
-Keldon Champion
+Kargan Dragonlord
-Isochron Scepter
-Cystal Ball/Ratchet Bomb/Chimeric Mass
+Sundering Titan
+Mox Diamond
I’m simply not sure on second cuts of the artifacts. I like all 3 of those cards a lot, but Sundering Titan look too good of Tinker target to pass up. What do you guys think?
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
Next round of change, most likely the last one before Mirrodin Besiged.
-Frantic Search
+Glided Drake
Not too sure on this, but I don’t know what else to cut.
-Draining Whelk
+Palinchron
The whelk just have been failing to preform lately, should be upgrade.
I like Chrome Mox a lot, but I agree with eidolon. The lands he mentions are better than it. I'd try to find room for all of them even at 360. Without power, Chrome Mox probably makes it at 360 too.
I think Wtwlf reported that it's at least as good, since Arc Lighting is usually only a 2-for-1 anyway. So the cheaper cost more than makes up for not having a third target.
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-Force of Will
-Tarmogoyf
-Mana Drain
Any more "expensive" card currently not in my cube (excluding card in powered cube)? I'll like to know of them before hand so I can get to working more part time job.
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Well, my problem with those card is that their price (I consider alpha/beta land as the entire set) is too high. So, any card above $100 range perhap? With an exception of Mana Drain. I just love the art on that card too much.
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The following card is already in my hand, but is under conderation on what to take out.
(The artifacts are directly going in without anything getting axe).
Elspeth Tirel
Koth of the Hammer
Mimic Vat
Sword of Body and Mind
Molten Tail Masticore
It's this change, on the post at the top of the page.
-Karmic Guide
+Elspeth Tirel
-Makeshift Mannequin
+Skinrender
-Spikeshot Elder
+Hellkite Charger
-Fireball
+Koth of the Hammer
-Rift Bolt
+Hearth Kami
-Offering to Asha
+Venser, the Sojourner
+Mimic Vat
+Ratchet Bomb
+Sword of Body and Mind
+Chimeric Mass
+Molten-Tail Masticore
The rest of the card will most likely be put on order and 'll be here on the next big update.
Also, what is Morphoid? I tried to click on it but it doesn't take me anywhere.
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And yes, I finally decided to bite and buy that fetch offer. So I have a full set of all 10 fetch which all are foil now:p, althrough I have to get to another house to get the enemy-fetchland. Man, these allied foil look pretty, althrough I got to admited that my money's bleeding by a fair margin.
I'll just copy the bench card from the OP to put in this post, so it'll be easier to view.
Bench Card
1 Skinrender
1 Hearth Kami
1 Spikeshot Elder
1 Koth of the Hammer
1 Lotus Cobra
1 Obstinate Baloth
1 Molten-Tail Masticore
1 Chimeric Mass
1 Sword of Body and Mind
1 Mimic Vat
1 Ratchet Bomb
1 Vindicate
1 Goblin Trenches
1 Teferi’s Moat
1 Venser, the Sojourner
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Arid Mesa
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Marsh Flats
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Flooded Strand
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Polluted Delta
Also, what's the thought on Gift Given. He's an 'un' card, right?
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OUT --> IN
ajani goldmane or scepter of dominance --> elspeth tirel
this is a tough one, i could see excluding any of these three at 360.
ob nixilis, the fallen --> skinrender
this will be unpopular but i think skinrender is more crucial than ob nix at this size.
hellkite charger or crater hellion --> hearth kami
magus of the scroll or rift bolt--> spikeshot elder
keldon champion --> koth of the hammer
you can choose any of those five to cut. personally, i would cut the charger, rift bolt, and the champion. as much as i love the charger, you don't need that many big guys in red. rift bolt isn't good enough for 360 in my opinion. and champion is solid but koth does something similar but is more powerful and more versatile.
briarhorn or rampaging baloths --> lotus cobra
rude awakening --> obstinate baloth
not much to say, i just think the cards on the left don't make the cut in a 360 and the cards on the right do. and you need to get woodfall primus or terastodon in here soon.
rakdos signet --> mimic vat
boros signet --> molten-tail masticore
orzhov signet --> sword of body and mind
golgari signet --> ratchet bomb
gruul signet --> chimeric mass
if that's not an option this is the best i can do:
obelisk of alara --> mimic vat
isochron scepter --> molten-tail masticore
crystal ball --> sword of body and mind
phyrexian processor --> ratchet bomb
mind stone --> chimeric mass
i would probably leave chimeric mass and maybe ratchet bomb out of a 360, myself. scepter and obelisk are definite cuts, but the rest of these are pretty iffy. i'd be comfortable dropping processor as well, but your mileage may vary on that one.
sarkhan the mad --> void
i don't really advocate this. both cards are unusual choices, neither support very aggressive decks. currently i run neither but i plan to test sarkhan soon. i actually like void a lot, but it's not better than bit blast, terminate, or redcap by any stretch of the imagination.
castigate or pillory of the sleepless --> vindicate
pure upgrade.
intimidation bolt --> goblin trenches
also pure upgrade, but i think you should seriously consider duergar hedge-mage.
kiss of the amesha --> venser, the sojourner
offering to asha --> teferi's moat
pure upgrade part three, but i'd rather see absorb instead of teferi's moat in here.
bouncelands --> fetchlands
the fetchlands need to be in here, and they are all unquestionably better than the bouncelands. but what you should do instead is just cut one card from each color pair in your multicolor section. based on what you have, i'd run
1 wall of denial
1 venser, the sojourner
1 teferi's moat
//UB
1 nemesis of reason
1 shadowmage infiltrator
1 psychatog
//BR
1 terminate
1 bituminous blast
1 murderous redcap
//RG
1 bloodbraid elf
1 kird ape
1 sarkhan vol
1 loam lion
1 qasali pridemage
1 kitchen finks
//WB
1 vindicate
1 mortify
1 desolation angel
//UR
1 fire//ice
1 prophetic bolt
1 electrolyze
//BG
1 putrid leech
1 putrefy
1 maelstrom pulse
1 lightning helix
1 figure of destiny
1 ajani vengeant
//GU
1 mystic snake
1 simic sky swallower
1 trygon predator
hope that was helpful!
-keep the Karoos (10 card spot)
-have 5 new artifact and 5 incoming ultilities land
-have 5 new artifact and 5 shard color
-Have 10 dual Multicolor
Or something else entirely. Do you have any suggestion for that?
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1. all the fetches belong in a 360, especially with shocklands present.
2. your multicolor should be cut down to 35 cards maximum anyway, and less would be fine.
so the fetches need to go in, and it doesn't matter how. but even if you don't cut anything for them, it would be healthy for your cube to be running less multicolor anyway. so you could cut the cards i left out of the 3-per-pair plan i posted to put something else in (proxied beta duals? more monocolor? utility lands?).
so add the fetches for sure. and beyond that, my choice would be to cut multicolor to add original duals or utility lands.
To comment on my own testing of Sarkhan, I think he's a fine curve topper for BR aggro. If left untouched he brains your opponent for ten the following turn (five from the dragon in combat and five from Sarkhan). I'm absolutely fine with that on turn six in my aggro deck since it usually means I win. He's still near the bottom of my mulitcolor choices for my cube (I'm at 6 per), but he's been surprisingly good so far.
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Out
Wild Nacalt
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
I don’t think I have the space I need, and this has been unbalancing the colors for a while. I’ll move the Wild Nacalt to the Bench for now, through. I feel like it’s too good to remove completely.
White
Out
Scepter of Dominance
In
Elspeth Tirel
I like Ajani, a lot. We’ll see how these changes go.
Black
Out
Makeshift Mannequin
In
Skinrender
I know this change is not as suggested. But Makeshift Mannequin has been underperforming in comparison to Ob Nixilis, who’s been excellent.
Red
Out
Rift Bolt
Hellkite Charger
Fireball
In
Heart Kami
Spikeshot Elder
Koth of the Hammer
I know Fireball is not a suggest cut. But I think 3/50 X spell in red (Banefire, Earthquake, Fireball) is too much. I’ll put the Champion in for now.
Green
Out
Briarhorn
Rampaging Baloths
Rude Awakening
In
Lotus Cobra
Obstinate Baloth
Woodfall Primus
Basically, taken all three card that doesn’t seem to make a cut at 360 out. Although I’m not sure if Baloth is 360 or not.
Multicolor
Out for Space Cut Reason
Life// Death
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Intimidation Bolt
Behemoth Sledge
Sarkhan the Mad
Agony Warp
Rumbling Slum
Kiss of Amesha
Voidslime
Castigate
Out
Putrefy
Offering to Asha
Pillory of the Sleepless
In
Pernicious Deed
Venser, the Sojourner
Vindicate
I decided to decrease it to 30, as suggested. Some of the card is simply not draft. I’m not sure about Putrefy/Putrid Leech. But I like the Leech too much for its potential in aggro deck.
Land
In
Scalding Tarn
Verdant Catacombs
Arid Mesa
Misty Rainforest
Marsh Flats
Windswept Heath
Wooded Foothills
Flooded Strand
Bloodstained Mire
Polluted Delta
Artifact
In
Mimic Vat
Molten-Tail Masticore
Sword of Body and Mind
Ratchet Bomb
Chimeric Bomb
After cutting out the multicolor, I don’t have to take any out for these guys. My cube is now at 355, so some things that’ll move card spot around might happen again in the next update.
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Now, I’ll like some suggestion. If there’s ANY cards in my list that you don’t think is good enough to be in 360 cube, please say so. And if there’s any cards that you think should be in a 360 cube and isn’t in my list, please also say so. The only limit on the suggest card is that the card price is below $100. Here’s my list of things to buy currently.
-Force of Will
-Mana Drain
-Morphling (I’m not too sure on him. The rule changes seem to weaken him, a lot)
-Yawgmoth’s Will
-Yawgmoth’s Bargain
-Plague Sliver
-Chain Lightning
-Tarmogoyf
-Berserk
-Sol Ring
-Grim Monolith
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That’s a great idea. I think I’ll remove Basking Rootwalla for it.
It's just that Martial Coup have turn a lot more game around than Scepter of Dominance. Scepter somehow always manage to get shatter by random things every time it manage to hit the table.
I have, but I found that the suspend usually is too late. I like the ability to hit for one more better, even if it cost some more mana. Flame Javelin is on the cutting block currently through.
Yes, it will most likely have to go as soon as some good blue card got here. Too bad, it's kind of my pet card too. But I like power over playing with favorite cards.
I'll keep these cuts in mind. I'll also add the Titan and Solemn to my to buy list.
I'm sorry, but what are utlity lands? It's most likely because I don't know them,not excluding them on purpose.
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I"ll try and make the manland in when I manage to change my cube to guild system.
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+Terramorphic Expanse
+Evolving Wild
+Quicksand
+Tectonic Edge
+Urza's Factory
And on better part of the news, I adjust my multicolor section to guild system to brace the incoming changes. Changes from now on will be made to those (No more aggro signet+bourceland, awesome!).
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White
-Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
-White Knight
+Lone Missionary
+Stormfront Pegasus/Mistral Charger
There’s really much much WW guys, so I’m removing them for a more splashable creatures.
Blue
-Rite of Replication
-Into the Roil
-Dismiss
+Mana Drain
+Force of Will
+Time Spiral
What can I say, these cards do some great things, but I really don’t know what to else to remove. Any suggestion in this section is greatly welcome.
Black
-Nakrataal/Bone Shredder
+Plague Sliver
Red
-Flame Javelin
+Chain Lightning
3 damage for 1 is much better than 4 damage for 4 (hardly 3)
Green
-Stonewood Invocation
-Obstinate Baloth
-Wild Dogs
-Call of the Herd
+Deranged Hermit
+Ohran Viper
+Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
+Tarmogoyf
Wow, a hard section to cut. I’m really unsure about these cut even more than the blue section.
Artifact
-Obelisk of Alara
+Sol Ring
Straight upgrade
That’s all the card I brought. But I change my cube to guild system. Might as well applied that with the cards I have.
Multicolor
-Golgari Signet
+Putrefy
Putrefy just have to go in.
-Izzet Signet
+Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Not too sure on this. I don’t know if R/U need another finisher.
-Boros Signet
+Goblin Trenches
People like trenches a lot. I’m one of them.
-Selesnya Signet
+Behemoth Sledge
Another unsure section.
-Simic Signet
+Voidslime
Voidslime stop planeswalkers’ ultimate for me couple of time. Maybe I’m just biased.
-Gruul Signet
+Giant Solifuge
I find that this signet aren’t use most of the time, even in color deck.
-Rakdos Signet
+Sarkhan the Mad
He’s an unusual choice that might be replaced soon. But I think he’s better for R/B than a signet.
-Dimir Signet
+Agony Warp
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i'd lose future sight or frantic search instead.
i don't like losing either of these guys. i'd consider cutting innocent blood, profane command, or disfigure instead. those are all good spells, but i like the kill spell strapped to the dude more. tough call, though.
this is really tough, but i would cut stonewood invocation and harmonize over two of these. i'd probably end up cutting call of the herd but wild dogs might be the better cut.
i would straight up reverse this. 6cc guy who is hard to cast and fails the terminate test is not what red/blue needs. it has enough great finishers and i think it would prefer the signet.
this is good but you should consider duergar hedge-mage if you find yourself needing more disenchants.
i would get a mirari's wake stat!
I agreed. I think I’ll lose Future Sight instead.
I think I'll lose innocent blood.
Umm. Stonewood Inovocation is already getting cut. I guess Harmonize can get cut over one of those through. I’m a little sad that green lose a spell. Anyways, I think that Obstinate Baloth might be the best of the three to keep.
Wow, I guess I’ll reverse it then.
I really want to. But I don’t know where to get 1. I want just 1 of them, that’s what make it sooooo difficult.
Yes, I guess Mirari’s Wake cool for 360 cube. I should be much easier to find X spell to play around with.
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lright, revised change. Oh, and Berserk just arrived in the mail today. So that’s one more space I’ll have to make in green.
White
-Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
-White Knight
+Lone Missionary
+Stormfront Pegasus/Mistral Charger
-White Knight
+Lone Missionary
+Stormfront Pegasus/Mistral Charger
No change in cut here
Blue
-Rite of Replication
-Into the Roil
-Future Sight
+Mana Drain
+Force of Will
+Time Spiral
-Into the Roil
-Dismiss
+Mana Drain
+Force of Will
+Time Spiral
Future Sight is gone instead of Dismiss. That’s about it.
Black
-Disfigure
+Plague Sliver
+Plague Sliver
I said it diffirently before, but now I think Innocent Blood has better potential than Disfigure. And I love profane command way too much.
Red
-Flame Javelin
+Chain Lightning
+Chain Lightning
Zero change here, moving on.
Green
-Stonewood Invocation
-Obstinate Baloth
-Wild Dogs
-Call of the Herd
-Harmonized
+Deranged Hermit
+Ohran Viper
+Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
+Tarmogoyf
+Berserk
-Obstinate Baloth
-Wild Dogs
-Call of the Herd
+Deranged Hermit
+Ohran Viper
+Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
+Tarmogoyf
Tough section. I’m really sad. Like, really, really sad. I thought I can save one of either Obstinate Baloth/Wild Dogs/Call of the Herd by cutting Harmonize instead. Then Berserk got here…
Artifact
-Obelisk of Alara
+Sol Ring
+Sol Ring
Funny how easiest change to made come right after the hardest change to made. Moving on.
Some cuts of signet has no complaint here, but it do got a few complants from some people in my playgroups. It look like more Signet is staying than I wanted to… For now.
Multicolor
Golgari
-Golgari Signet
+Putrefy[/
+Putrefy
Nothing here.
Izzet
No change
+Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
This section is fair enough.
Boros
-Boros Signet
+Goblin Trenches
+Goblin Trenches
Well, it’s staying the same for now. I’m seriously considering Duergar Hedge-Mage, but none just happen to be on my hand for now. If some, by any chance of luck, happen to come across me. I’ll be sure to make that change.
Selesnya
-Selesnya Signet
+Behemoth Sledge
+Behemoth Sledge
Done, and it’ll going to be Mirari’s Wake very, very soon!
Simic
No change
+Voidslime
Some players in my playgroups just like color-fixing more than the voidslime. I guess things don’t always work the way you want it to.
Gruul
-Gruul Signet
+Giant Solifuge
+Giant Solifuge
Luciky, no objection. Aggressive creature in aggressive color pair is awesomeness!
Rakdos
-Rakdos Signet
+Sarkhan the Mad
+Sarkhan the Mad
Not sure what to say here, but I like my dragon(s).
Dimir
No change
+Agony Warp
Yes, another objection. Look like the Signet’s staying over a gas for now.
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-Quicksand
+Library of Alexandria
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those other changes look good, but i don't like losing a lot of those green cards. 360 lists are tough.
Here's this round of upgrade.
-Keldon Champion
+Kargan Dragonlord
-Isochron Scepter
-Cystal Ball/Ratchet Bomb/Chimeric Mass
+Sundering Titan
+Mox Diamond
I’m simply not sure on second cuts of the artifacts. I like all 3 of those cards a lot, but Sundering Titan look too good of Tinker target to pass up. What do you guys think?
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-Frantic Search
+Glided Drake
Not too sure on this, but I don’t know what else to cut.
-Draining Whelk
+Palinchron
The whelk just have been failing to preform lately, should be upgrade.
-Terramorphic Expanse
+Wasteland
-Evolving Wild
+Grim Monolith
-Tectonic Edge
+Solemn Simulacrum
-Urza's Factory
+Chrome Mox
I’m just taking out the mediocre land for artifacts that most likely more powerful.
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