I can't find my Blood Knight! I'll add it in to red's embarrassing two drop pile, I'm also not really sure about Hell's Thunder also because red in my cube isn't so pretty in multiplayer. Some cards I'm thinking about adding:
I heard Word of Seizing is really really good but I'm not sure, I like it a lot because it's instant speed control of any permanent with split second to boot, heard stories of it taking control of Pernicious Deed and blowing up stuff.
Green is suffering a little bit too still. Suggestions are welcomed.
Fyndhorn Elves I did have him in there but I'm not sure if I care for more mana elves. Noble Hierarch is going to be thrown in once I get one or make a proxy of it. Wild Mongrel will be in as soon as I can find my copy, seems like someone is stealing my two drops (I had literary no good white two drops when I first made my cube, not because I forgot either.) Wickerbough Elder or Indrik Stomphowler will probably replace Naturalize . I'm having a hard time keeping my cube sorted and updated so it might take a while to edit the front page. Kavu Titan is underwhelming kicked or not. Nimble Mongoose is awesome but threshold is not a mechanic I like in my cube, I'll try it out though. Skyshroud Elite Been meaning to put it in for a while, just don't have one and keep forgetting to proxy it. Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary is bonkers. Cloudthresher is color intensive and probably won't go in because of it.
A lot of your suggestions are awesome Shalazar but you're going to keep me from eating!
Huge update! Man someone should pay me for all this work I've been doing on my cube, this is quite a bit of work! I'm shooting for 56 cards per color then after that I'll fix up the multi-color.
I don't know how I got Jackal Pup and Jackal Familiar mixed up but I did, sorry about that. Seems like I need nine more white cards. My red and green are updated on the front but my blue is a few cards jumbled. Black is pretty close to perfect, just need to lower the curve quite a bit.
You took the words right out of my mouth. They are excellent cards for red. I also think Hell's Thunder is pretty good. It's a slightly smaller but flying Ball Lighting that happens to be easier on the mana and recursive. What about that would red not want?
You took the words right out of my mouth. They are excellent cards for red. I also think Hell's Thunder is pretty good. It's a slightly smaller but flying Ball Lighting that happens to be easier on the mana and recursive. What about that would red not want?
Cheers,
rant
I took out Avalanche Riders because I don't own any and just didn't have room for it, it'll be returning soon because it's one of my favorite cards! I'm not sure about Pillage, anyone suggest better land destruction? Preferably something that will also do damage? If not Pillage will probably return.
Damge + Land Destruction either needs to be on a stick, or you're talking about Molten Rain. There's one or two others that I can think of (Incendiary Command and Choking Sands) but they're not really good enough.
@Recoup: I also had this in for a while, in an attempt to give red other spells than pure burn and a hand full of artifact/land destruction spells. Unfortunately it turned out a lot worse than I expected.
Maybe you want to try it out for yourself first, since it looks promising, but Recoup is not a card that I could recommend.
(@Kami of Ancient Lore: I guess you meant Kami of Ancient Law )
A lot of those cards I do have in my cube, Nezumi Shortfang is my idle replacement for Fugue. I'm going to throw some more 1 drop black creatures in the mix, Vampire Lacerator and Carnophage and see if they're actually worthwhile. My friend argues no but I think they're quite dandy for aggro.
I think Recoup would be better if it weren't just sorceries because it misses out on a lot of worthwhile removal spells.
Here are some tokens that I would like to get for my cube as well since I'm pimping my cube to the max.
4x Beast Token - Darksteel Player Rewards
3x Spirit Token - Shadowmoor
5x Faerie Rogue Token - Morningtide
15x Goat Token - Eventide
3x Dragon Token - Shards of Alara
2x Elephant Token - Invasion Player Rewards
5x Pegasus Token
5x Goblin Token - 2010 Core Set
2x Dragon Token - Onslaught Player Rewards
3x Zombie Token - 10th Edition
2x Avatar Token - Lorwyn
4x Elemental Token - Conflux
All of them are able to be created in my cube, (some via Planes.) The Pegasus Tokens suck though...
I also run Planechase. What Planes are your favourites for Cubing? I have really enjoyed Murasa, Otaria and the promo Planes. The Fourth Sphere of Phyrexia has been a bit sick too on occasion.
Vanguard AND Planechase simultaneously would be face-meltingly awesome and confusing.
I also run Planechase. What Planes are your favourites for Cubing? I have really enjoyed Murasa, Otaria and the promo Planes. The Fourth Sphere of Phyrexia has been a bit sick too on occasion.
Vanguard AND Planechase simultaneously would be face-meltingly awesome and confusing.
Goldmeadow, without a doubt, is my favorite plane. Everytime we played on it someone actually loses the game to the goats within the next 3 or so turns. I pumped my goats to 1/2s one game, forgot how but swung for lethal damage. Planeswalked to Krosa one game and another game to Velis Vel, three deaths to goats.
Pools of Becoming is my second favorite plane, just because the is so awesome.
Naya is pretty lame in the first few turns of the game because you easily have enough mana to planeswalk away from it so that your opponents don't get to play all their lands.
Lethe Lake is very scary since there are only 33 cards in your deck (at most, unless you mulligan.)
Minamo is fun but I don't like planes that say "I win" which this plane is borderline.
We've yet to play on Glimmervoid Basin long enough for a player to even cast a spell but it looks really really fun.
Shiv is boring unless you roll :chaos:.
Izzet Steam Maze is always broken, fun especially because counterspells still work the same, the ability is almost always useless.
Cliffside Market is fun, never played with it when the life totals actually made someone lose or win, just like four or so life difference.
Otaria is broken late game, the is just extra broken, I don't enjoy planes that are like this too much.
I do have all 43 planes, though the promo ones are okay they're not as fun as some of the first 40. I really really really want more planes Wizards. Make them please.
*doublecheck if Iam looking at the right cube now*
Nice changes! Kederekt Leviathan: Upheaval has a similar function and has worked out really well for other cubers.
The cheapest way to get a good amount of horse tokens is just using a Top Trump pony quartet.
Awesome, Upheaval is something I've been meaning to add to my cube for a long time. Not too sure about Glen Elendra Archmage. It's one of those cards that is always always a beast against me but when I play it, it's just sub-par.
Whats Top Trump pony quartet? I did a quick Google search just to find a card game.
@suggested cards that are already in your cube: sry, I have checked magicmerl's cube for missing cards instead (since I usually have the other cube in an extra tab). (this would also explain the Kami of Ancient Lore...)
In my defence, I think that Kami of Ancient Lore is a better card name than Kami of Ancient Law :~)
I am a little sad to pull out Nameless Inversion because it's the only tribal spell I have making the Goyf only a 7/8 but I felt I already had too much removal, especially in black so it's worth it. Vampire Nighthawk is in my cube but just haven't updated the front in a while.
I also think Tidings is pretty weak, I'm not exactly looking for more draw spells though.
A updated picture, found a chest in my closet that would be worthy enough to hold my cards, just need to find a box for my cube that first. My playmat fits in perfectly and the inside has some sort of felt too.
I'm still working on it, I did white, green and blue but still need red and black. Multicolor aren't going to be touched for a long long time.
Thanks once again eidolon232! A lot of those I have already excluded. Voidmage Husher is pretty fun and isn't bad as a 2/2 flying flash creature with a blink ability for ani-removal. I probably will keep her in for a while, there are much worse cards in my cube.
Still need to even out the colors, man this is so much work!
You cut Forbid? I view that card as the second best counterspell right after Mana Drain. That card turns any kind of card advantage into a soft lock - completely bonkers.
You cut Forbid? I view that card as the second best counterspell right after Mana Drain. That card turns any kind of card advantage into a soft lock - completely bonkers.
Your adds are excellent, but you should absolutely find something else to cut for it than Forbid.
Your welcome, but I gotta agree with DerBK here: The Forbidian deck was a very strong combo and even if the later isn't good enough anymore, it doesn't matter where you get your extra cards from. Once you have a Forbid and a grip full of cards, it is very unlikely that your opponent will resolve his next few threads.
Actually I think I meant to cut Hinder, don't know why I cut Forbid instead. This is like the 2nd time I got two cards mixed up in my cube. I'm going to put it back, my friend actually took out some cards that I really didn't agree to take out and they're lost somewhere in my room. Not sure if it was one of the cards he took out or if it was just missing for whatever reason.
Any powerful enchantments out there missing from my cube? I've never played with it but Form of the Dragon is pretty game winning but extra risky. On a side note, forgot Magma Jet and keep forgeting Fire // Ice in my cube.
Red
+ Flametongue Kavu
+ Goblin Bushwacker
+ Hammer of Bogardan
+ Hell's Thunder
+ Jackal Familiar
+ Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
+ Keldon Vandals
+ Squee, Goblin Nabob
+ Stigma Lasher
- Hearth Kami
Withered Wretch
Grave Pact
Carnophage and the other 2/2 for B
My friend doesn't like Carnophage and friends though I think they're great. I also have poop for 1 drop black creatures.
Red
+ Taurean Mauler
+ Word of Seizing
Black
+ Vampire Nighthawk
I heard Word of Seizing is really really good but I'm not sure, I like it a lot because it's instant speed control of any permanent with split second to boot, heard stories of it taking control of Pernicious Deed and blowing up stuff.
Green is suffering a little bit too still. Suggestions are welcomed.
Here are some suggestions that hopefully help...
In principle I think you need to increase the ratio of creatures to spells in green. I think the curve can be lowered a bit too. So with that in mind:
Budget Friendly Suggestions (if memory serves me):
- Pouncing Jaguar
- Basking Rootwalla
- Wild Mongrel
- Albino Troll
- Wickerbough Elder
- Indrik Stomphowler
.Non-Budget Friendly Suggestions (if memory serves again):
- Noble Hierarch
- Skyshroud Elite
- Nimble Mongoose
- Fyndhorn Elves
- Wall of Blossoms
- Wall of Roots
- Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
- Lotus Cobra
- Kavu Titan
- Great Sable Stag
- Genesis
- Cloudthresher
.http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=385729
Noble Hierarch is going to be thrown in once I get one or make a proxy of it.
Wild Mongrel will be in as soon as I can find my copy, seems like someone is stealing my two drops (I had literary no good white two drops when I first made my cube, not because I forgot either.)
Wickerbough Elder or Indrik Stomphowler will probably replace Naturalize . I'm having a hard time keeping my cube sorted and updated so it might take a while to edit the front page.
Kavu Titan is underwhelming kicked or not.
Nimble Mongoose is awesome but threshold is not a mechanic I like in my cube, I'll try it out though.
Skyshroud Elite Been meaning to put it in for a while, just don't have one and keep forgetting to proxy it.
Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary is bonkers.
Cloudthresher is color intensive and probably won't go in because of it.
A lot of your suggestions are awesome Shalazar but you're going to keep me from eating!
Huge update! Man someone should pay me for all this work I've been doing on my cube, this is quite a bit of work! I'm shooting for 56 cards per color then after that I'll fix up the multi-color.
Red
+ Jackal Pup
+ Blood Knight
+ Hammer of Bogardan
- Avalanche Riders
- Jackal Familiar
- Lash Out
- Ancient Grudge
- Volcanic Fallout
- Pillage
- Stigma Lasher
- Hell's Thunder
Green
+ Wall of Roots
+ Wall of Blossoms
+ Lotus Cobra
+ Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
+ Noble Hierarch
+ Skyshroud Elite
+ Nimble Mongoose
+ Basking Rootwalla
- Predator's Strike
I don't know how I got Jackal Pup and Jackal Familiar mixed up but I did, sorry about that. Seems like I need nine more white cards. My red and green are updated on the front but my blue is a few cards jumbled. Black is pretty close to perfect, just need to lower the curve quite a bit.
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You took the words right out of my mouth. They are excellent cards for red. I also think Hell's Thunder is pretty good. It's a slightly smaller but flying Ball Lighting that happens to be easier on the mana and recursive. What about that would red not want?
Cheers,
rant
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I took out Avalanche Riders because I don't own any and just didn't have room for it, it'll be returning soon because it's one of my favorite cards! I'm not sure about Pillage, anyone suggest better land destruction? Preferably something that will also do damage? If not Pillage will probably return.
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Knight of the Holy Nimbus (Soon to be Knight of Meadowgrain, but I do like him!)
Glowrider
Magus of the Tabernacle (Love Stax but don't think it'll be seeing play)
Voidmage Husher
Chronozoa (Soon to become Kira, Great Glass-Spinner)
Brine Elemental
Kederekt Leviathan
Festering Goblin
Scepter of Fugue
Wurmcalling
Also would like to make room for Recoup
Suggestions are welcomed!
In a a week or two I have something really cool coming in the mail. I can't wait.
A lot of those cards I do have in my cube, Nezumi Shortfang is my idle replacement for Fugue. I'm going to throw some more 1 drop black creatures in the mix, Vampire Lacerator and Carnophage and see if they're actually worthwhile. My friend argues no but I think they're quite dandy for aggro.
I think Recoup would be better if it weren't just sorceries because it misses out on a lot of worthwhile removal spells.
White
- Glowrider
+ Spectral Procession
- Magus of the Tabernacle
+ Knight of the Meadowgrain
Blue
- Chronozoa
+ Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
- Brine Elemental
+ Wake Trasher
Black
- Festering Goblin
+ Vampire Lacerator
- Scepter of Fugue
+ Nezumi Shortfang
Green
- Wurmcalling
+ Tooth and Nail
Need to replace!
- Kederekt Leviathan
- Voidmage Husher
Here are some tokens that I would like to get for my cube as well since I'm pimping my cube to the max.
4x Beast Token - Darksteel Player Rewards
3x Spirit Token - Shadowmoor
5x Faerie Rogue Token - Morningtide
15x Goat Token - Eventide
3x Dragon Token - Shards of Alara
2x Elephant Token - Invasion Player Rewards
5x Pegasus Token
5x Goblin Token - 2010 Core Set
2x Dragon Token - Onslaught Player Rewards
3x Zombie Token - 10th Edition
2x Avatar Token - Lorwyn
4x Elemental Token - Conflux
All of them are able to be created in my cube, (some via Planes.) The Pegasus Tokens suck though...
Vanguard AND Planechase simultaneously would be face-meltingly awesome and confusing.
On spoiled card wishlisting and 'should-have-had'-isms:
Artifacts:
+ Lotus Petal
+ Mindslaver
Goldmeadow, without a doubt, is my favorite plane. Everytime we played on it someone actually loses the game to the goats within the next 3 or so turns. I pumped my goats to 1/2s one game, forgot how but swung for lethal damage. Planeswalked to Krosa one game and another game to Velis Vel, three deaths to goats.
Pools of Becoming is my second favorite plane, just because the is so awesome.
Naya is pretty lame in the first few turns of the game because you easily have enough mana to planeswalk away from it so that your opponents don't get to play all their lands.
Lethe Lake is very scary since there are only 33 cards in your deck (at most, unless you mulligan.)
Minamo is fun but I don't like planes that say "I win" which this plane is borderline.
We've yet to play on Glimmervoid Basin long enough for a player to even cast a spell but it looks really really fun.
Shiv is boring unless you roll :chaos:.
Izzet Steam Maze is always broken, fun especially because counterspells still work the same, the ability is almost always useless.
Cliffside Market is fun, never played with it when the life totals actually made someone lose or win, just like four or so life difference.
Otaria is broken late game, the is just extra broken, I don't enjoy planes that are like this too much.
I do have all 43 planes, though the promo ones are okay they're not as fun as some of the first 40. I really really really want more planes Wizards. Make them please.
Awesome, Upheaval is something I've been meaning to add to my cube for a long time. Not too sure about Glen Elendra Archmage. It's one of those cards that is always always a beast against me but when I play it, it's just sub-par.
Whats Top Trump pony quartet? I did a quick Google search just to find a card game.
In my defence, I think that Kami of Ancient Lore is a better card name than Kami of Ancient Law :~)
Artifacts:
+ Lightning Greaves
+ Grafted Wargear
+ Duplicant
+ Etched Oracle
+ Karn, Silver Golem
+ Sword of Fire and Ice
+ Sword of Light and Shadow
+ Solemn Simulator
+ Metalworker
+ Nevinyrral's Disk
+ Platinum Angel
+ Zuran Orb
Flickerwisp
Cards that need room asap
Upheaval
Stroke of Genius
Hymn to Tourach
Vampire Lacerator
Carnophage
Puppeteer Clique
Booster Tutor
Bitterblossom
Yawgmoth's Will
Recurring Nightmare
Burst Lightning
One of the best cards black has, with all the abusive 187's and token makers that cubes are full of.
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I am a little sad to pull out Nameless Inversion because it's the only tribal spell I have making the Goyf only a 7/8 but I felt I already had too much removal, especially in black so it's worth it. Vampire Nighthawk is in my cube but just haven't updated the front in a while.
I also think Tidings is pretty weak, I'm not exactly looking for more draw spells though.
Bitterblossom will solve that problem.:D
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=385729
I'm still working on it, I did white, green and blue but still need red and black. Multicolor aren't going to be touched for a long long time.
Blue
- Trickbind
- Spell Burst
- Reality Acid
- Forbid
- Chronozoa
- Rewind
- Rising Waters
- Gush
- Brine Elemental
+ Gifts Ungiven
+ Wash Out
+ Stroke of Genius
Red
- Tarfire
+ Burst of Lightning
Thanks once again eidolon232! A lot of those I have already excluded. Voidmage Husher is pretty fun and isn't bad as a 2/2 flying flash creature with a blink ability for ani-removal. I probably will keep her in for a while, there are much worse cards in my cube.
Still need to even out the colors, man this is so much work!
Oh yeah, I always forget that Bitterblossom is a tribal. Incredibly lame.
Word. Forbid is ridiculous.
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Actually I think I meant to cut Hinder, don't know why I cut Forbid instead. This is like the 2nd time I got two cards mixed up in my cube. I'm going to put it back, my friend actually took out some cards that I really didn't agree to take out and they're lost somewhere in my room. Not sure if it was one of the cards he took out or if it was just missing for whatever reason.
Man you guys really love Forbid, haha.
Any powerful enchantments out there missing from my cube? I've never played with it but Form of the Dragon is pretty game winning but extra risky. On a side note, forgot Magma Jet and keep forgeting Fire // Ice in my cube.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=192234&highlight=horizon+boughs
This one!
On spoiled card wishlisting and 'should-have-had'-isms: