I think this looks interesting. Playing it turn 2 off an elf could be very strong, and it plays well with other things GW decks typically do like Craterhoof Behemoth and Opposition. +1/+1 counter and token synergies for archetype-focused cubes that are supporting either or both of those in GW.
I'm not a fan of this card at all since it's like a reverse Monastery Mentor. Playing this off a turn 2 Elf doesn't account to much since it doesn't trigger the training on it, and it's much harder to chain creatures spells than it is to chain non-creature spells.
That's true. Thinking on it more, this is also weaker than Adeline and Brimaz from the same mana value in white, which makes it difficult to justify the guild slot.
I really like this, definitely want to test it but cuts in GW are hard. It might not be better than Kitchen Finks on power level, but me and my playgroup think this at least deserves a test. Getting the Training to trigger on this guy isn't what's important, it's that the 1/1s are really easy to make into 2/2s and that just a token or two is enough to make this guy a stat monster. Only issue I have with the guy is that he curves poorly into Armageddon/Ravages of War, but I think it's still worth trying regardless. Card has so much upside and is so unbelievably easy to trigger for tokens.
The other concern could be that this guy generates value from the same angle that the cards it triggers from already enable. Making more creature tokens won't beat that Wrath of God/Wildfire/Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite/Time Vault loop, meanwhile a card like Monastery Mentor rewards you for playing counterspells and hand attack and removal, all things that can potentially protect itself. Disruptive creatures like Dauntless Bodyguard/Selfless Spirit/Skyclave Apparition/Reclamation Sage/etc might be able to curb that issue, but there is a part of me nervous for this card's value in the face of mass removal and combos.
Also, this is more than likely not a great topdeck, but the Training triggers might actually help curb that issue.
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I think this looks interesting. Playing it turn 2 off an elf could be very strong, and it plays well with other things GW decks typically do like Craterhoof Behemoth and Opposition. +1/+1 counter and token synergies for archetype-focused cubes that are supporting either or both of those in GW.
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The other concern could be that this guy generates value from the same angle that the cards it triggers from already enable. Making more creature tokens won't beat that Wrath of God/Wildfire/Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite/Time Vault loop, meanwhile a card like Monastery Mentor rewards you for playing counterspells and hand attack and removal, all things that can potentially protect itself. Disruptive creatures like Dauntless Bodyguard/Selfless Spirit/Skyclave Apparition/Reclamation Sage/etc might be able to curb that issue, but there is a part of me nervous for this card's value in the face of mass removal and combos.
Also, this is more than likely not a great topdeck, but the Training triggers might actually help curb that issue.