MTG Salvation

I'm not sure this is a Faith's Fetters replacement. Fetters can hit lands, which has become increasingly important. Also, in the decks that want Fetters, the lifegain is pretty valuable. Still, this card is good. I won't have room at 450, but I can see testing it in larger cubes.

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I'm very interested - the cycling really puts it over the top for me, not surprisingly.

I'm also generally glad we've gotten two instant-speed o-ring variants in the last two years - this is a good direction to go.

This card seems really sick, but ever since I cut Faith's Fetters from my 360, I've been feeling enough of an impact with cheaper removal that I'm just not interested. Yet.

Slamming this into my cube, probably replacing Banishing Light with it. Seems on par with it, if not better. Also, of note, I also run Oblivion Ring and Faith's Fetters.

I understand why it had to cost 4, but damn that sucks. The cycling cost is so awesome though. 1 is so much less than 2 when it comes to cantrip effects. But I like fetter's better because of the life gain. It's just so valuable. That and hitting lands.

I'll definitely test this. Cycling is interesting on this card - it is cheap, but the card is one of the broadest, less-dead effects there are and is a risk to bin. I like it more than some of the O-Ring variants, but it is not as good as Banishing Light.

I don't think this gets there. I've already cut Utter End and Faith's Fetters because at the end of the day, 4 mana is just too much to pay for spot removal given the plethora of cheaper options available. Cycling (when's the last time you wished you could cycle your Oblivion Ring, anyway>) and instant speed really don't do anything to change that.

The cycling cost is so awesome though.

Agreed, that's the most exciting part of this card, and I hope we get more good cards with a one-mana cycling cost.

I think this is better than faith fetters and if it weren't for curve reasons (over saturation at 4) I think it's 98% as good as oring.

I can't stress enough how good 1 mana cycling is.
If you are desperate for land drops early in the game, only costing 1 mana vs 2 is a huge huge deal for tempo.

1 mana Cycling + flash is (barely) worth an extra mana imo.

I think large cubes should slam this

Rogue makes a good point - I can't think of the last time I wanted to cycle my o-ring effect.

I really hope we get a disenchant for 3 with cycling 1. Probably not going to happen, but I'd almost certainly run that. There are definitely games when I want to cycle disenchant.

Cycling W is so much better than cycling 2, and flash plus splash ability is quite nice. The competition is rough, but I don't spect to make room somehow.

Its not so much the cycling as that it has Flash. Ill probably try this.

Cycling (for 1!) is great when you're looking for a land, but other than that I don't think I'd be cycling an o-ring effect very often. I'm not sure whether I like this more than Faith's Fetters and that card is already on the chopping block. Flash is neat, of course, but so is hitting manlands and gaing 4 life.

I like this one. Optionality almost always underrated, and flash plus cycling greatly mitigate the higher casting cost.

Seems good. The competition at the 4cc white noncreature slot is absurd, so it might not make it in, but it sure does look interesting. I think this is as good as, if not better than Faith's Fetters. But even with the flash, I think the 2W costed O-Rings are better. Flash + cycling sure is a nice set of upgrades though!

this is the first card i am interested in. think i might drop pacifism for it.

Definitely better than pacifism. Exiling the creature is just way better than removing it from combat. Flash is really good on an effect like this allowing you to hold up counter magic and make your decisions on your opponents turn. That being said, I would still rather have the 3cc compliment than this.

I also like Faiths Fetters more because it makes up for the tempo loss with the life gain, and then can be abused with blink shenanigans.

Initially dismissed Cast Out because it costs 4, but it was in my list when we Cubed this weekend, and it tested fantastically. Just having an instant speed removal spell that can hit any nonland permanent is great, and gives another tool for Control decks without having to commit mana on their turn. The cycling is also relevant in certain situations, and has a very friendly cost of W. Though the 4-drop noncreature section in White is saturated, I still believe Cast Out is very competitive in that slot.

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Initially dismissed Cast Out because it costs 4, but it was in my list when we Cubed this weekend, and it tested fantastically. Just having an instant speed removal spell that can hit any nonland permanent is great, and gives another tool for Control decks without having to commit mana on their turn. The cycling is also relevant in certain situations, and has a very friendly cost of W. Though the 4-drop noncreature section in White is saturated, I still believe Cast Out is very competitive in that slot.

I share this belief. It's tested very smoothly and has pushed out Banishing Light from my cube for the forseeable future.
Not that I'm 100% convinced it's better, but it's close enough that I'm happy to change it for varieties sake at least in the short term.

I'll repeat myself that larger cubes should slam cast out in their cube and not think twice about it.

Cast Out was discussed Here in the Random Cube Card of the Day Thread. Why not cast out your opinion of today card in the thread?

(Spoiler: A good that is unfortunately in one of the tightest cube slots.)

I really wish this "opponent controls" part was removed so I can EOT exile one of my cards, then Upheaval

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I really wish this "opponent controls" part was removed so I can EOT exile one of my cards, then Upheaval

Also the wave applications would be sick 😍

I still play this. It's still okay. Four mana is clunky, and I've only seen it cycled once or twice. I don't really wanna play functional reprints of Oblivion Ring, so I'm fine playing this. Instant speed is good, and this always has a target.

I cut this recently but it always performed well in my list. I was always pretty hesitant at 4 mana but that didn't stop others from mainboading it (60% mainboard on 35 drafts) and it was played in lots of good decks (65.29% win percentage on 121 games).