Hexmage will be my cut for this, I like this card over Relentless Dead, getting rid of a BB spell will be a nice relief for black since most cubes are running Hymn / Sinkhole / Bloodghast.
Hell yes, two A+ Black two drops and a very solid BB creature and the set id not even half spoiled. I'm moving house and every time I check my phone on a break something cool and cubeable had been spoiled. This is possibly the best card of the set. Although the flip land runs it close for coolness factor. Black was only really lacking the two drop department and this set is all over that.
I guess I can now use the word. This is strictly a better version of Blood Scrivener! Insane black 2-drop! Snap include! One of the best card so far, if not the best!
I guess I can now use the word. This is strictly a better version of Blood Scrivener! Insane black 2-drop! Snap include! One of the best card so far, if not the best!
Technically it's not, since you can have scenarios where you have no cards at the beginning of turn, get the extra card, play/discard those cards and then draw again somehow and still get another card. Scrivener gets you an extra card any time you go to draw and you're hellbent, not just during your upkeep. In that scenario, Scrivener is drawing you an extra card and is better. So close
How does this stack up to Dark Confidant in Cube? In constructed Bob is handily the better card, but in Cube games go longer and the +1 attack seems like it'd matter more.
As amazing as this guy is, Confidant is just such a huge card for black aggro decks. I'd put Confidant a tier above Visitor for his ability.
How does this stack up to Dark Confidant in Cube? In constructed Bob is handily the better card, but in Cube games go longer and the +1 attack seems like it'd matter more.
Always drawing cards>not always drawing cards. By logic of games going longer in the cube, always drawing cards will help you out much more.
Yeah, I'm just impressed I'm able to compare this card to Confidant at all instead of Pain Seer and his ilk.
I don't think this is too close to confidant because there will certainly be games where this guy is a 3/1 that draws you nothing and Confidant would be so much better in those spots, but I agree that it's pretty awesome to even make the stretch.
Yeah, I'm just impressed I'm able to compare this card to Confidant at all instead of Pain Seer and his ilk.
I don't think this is too close to confidant because there will certainly be games where this guy is a 3/1 that draws you nothing and Confidant would be so much better in those spots, but I agree that it's pretty awesome to even make the stretch.
But the scary thing is that I am thinking about the decks that I have cut confidant because the curve comes out too high, and this card would easily have stayed.
*Full disclosure I never actually cut Bob even when he is bound to kill me, I just know sometimes it would have been the right decision.
Yeah, I'm just impressed I'm able to compare this card to Confidant at all instead of Pain Seer and his ilk.
I don't think this is too close to confidant because there will certainly be games where this guy is a 3/1 that draws you nothing and Confidant would be so much better in those spots, but I agree that it's pretty awesome to even make the stretch.
But the scary thing is that I am thinking about the decks that I have cut confidant because the curve comes out too high, and this card would easily have stayed.
*Full disclosure I never actually cut Bob even when he is bound to kill me, I just know sometimes it would have been the right decision.
On more than one occasion I have played Bob with Greater Gargadon lol
I played with a newer player recently and he had bob in a control deck, I was aggro. He played it at 4 expecting to use it as a chump, but I just passed twice and let it kill him. Land. Griselbrand.
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Fast Mana Acceleration (Mox Diamond / Chrome Mox / Dark Ritual / Power 9 Type Cards)
- Really nice for an aggro card to reward you for dumping your hand early, Dark Ritual’s stock especially goes up because of this card.
Discard Spells (Mindtwist / Thoughtseize / Duress / Inquisition of Kozilek / Hymn to Tourach / Gerrard’s Verdict)
- Strips your opponent’s of answers while you increase your threat density, Asylum Visitor also helps you out if you’re playing AGAINST discard.
Pack Rat
- This deserves a special mention. While it’s not exactly great to play these back to back turn 2 and 3 unless you’re stuck on two land, Asylum Visitor doubles Pack Rat’s production in the late game.
Liliana of the Veil / Liliana, Defiant Necromancer
- Lets you develop your board more when you’re going hellbent with everyone’s favorite black planeswalkers.
Hypnotic Specter
- Turn 1 Dark Ritual - > Hypnotic Specter just got a whole lot more fun.
Discard Outlets (Heir of Falkenrath / Wild Mongrel / Psychatog)
- Enables Asylum Visitor’s Madness and rewards you for YOLO fireballing your opponent.
Olivia, Mobilized for War
- Nice interaction between these two, providing fuel for each other’s fire, this and all the other discard interactions really makes Olivia, Mobilized for War a contender in a lot of cube’s Rakdos slots.
Sword of Feast and Famine
- This one’s a double threat since it forces your opponent to discard and helps you empty your hand out faster by untapping your lands.
Masticores
- Feeds the beasts.
Pitch Spells (Force of Will / Contagion)
- What, you don’t cube Contagion?
Vampires Matters Cards (Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet)
- I would have put Falkenrath Gorger on this list but Asylum Visitor already has Madness…
So I guess that guy settles the Pain Seer VS Blood Scrivener discussion.. Definitely cubing that card!
For us, that discussion was already settled. Pain Seer was often good, Blood Scrivener was not.
I wanted to like Scrivener, and I'm really stoked about Asylum Visitor (like everyone else). He's so much better, especially because of the extra power, but the other "upgrades" aren't just flavour text either.
Re-read it.... O....m.....G......
This might be the best card in the set??? Wtf...
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I guess I'm cutting Pain Seer for this.
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Technically it's not, since you can have scenarios where you have no cards at the beginning of turn, get the extra card, play/discard those cards and then draw again somehow and still get another card. Scrivener gets you an extra card any time you go to draw and you're hellbent, not just during your upkeep. In that scenario, Scrivener is drawing you an extra card and is better. So close
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Always drawing cards>not always drawing cards. By logic of games going longer in the cube, always drawing cards will help you out much more.
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I don't think this is too close to confidant because there will certainly be games where this guy is a 3/1 that draws you nothing and Confidant would be so much better in those spots, but I agree that it's pretty awesome to even make the stretch.
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But the scary thing is that I am thinking about the decks that I have cut confidant because the curve comes out too high, and this card would easily have stayed.
*Full disclosure I never actually cut Bob even when he is bound to kill me, I just know sometimes it would have been the right decision.
On more than one occasion I have played Bob with Greater Gargadon lol
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Fast Mana Acceleration (Mox Diamond / Chrome Mox / Dark Ritual / Power 9 Type Cards)
- Really nice for an aggro card to reward you for dumping your hand early, Dark Ritual’s stock especially goes up because of this card.
Discard Spells (Mindtwist / Thoughtseize / Duress / Inquisition of Kozilek / Hymn to Tourach / Gerrard’s Verdict)
- Strips your opponent’s of answers while you increase your threat density, Asylum Visitor also helps you out if you’re playing AGAINST discard.
Pack Rat
- This deserves a special mention. While it’s not exactly great to play these back to back turn 2 and 3 unless you’re stuck on two land, Asylum Visitor doubles Pack Rat’s production in the late game.
Liliana of the Veil / Liliana, Defiant Necromancer
- Lets you develop your board more when you’re going hellbent with everyone’s favorite black planeswalkers.
Hypnotic Specter
- Turn 1 Dark Ritual - > Hypnotic Specter just got a whole lot more fun.
Discard Outlets (Heir of Falkenrath / Wild Mongrel / Psychatog)
- Enables Asylum Visitor’s Madness and rewards you for YOLO fireballing your opponent.
Olivia, Mobilized for War
- Nice interaction between these two, providing fuel for each other’s fire, this and all the other discard interactions really makes Olivia, Mobilized for War a contender in a lot of cube’s Rakdos slots.
Sword of Feast and Famine
- This one’s a double threat since it forces your opponent to discard and helps you empty your hand out faster by untapping your lands.
Masticores
- Feeds the beasts.
Pitch Spells (Force of Will / Contagion)
- What, you don’t cube Contagion?
Vampires Matters Cards (Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet)
- I would have put Falkenrath Gorger on this list but Asylum Visitor already has Madness…
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For us, that discussion was already settled. Pain Seer was often good, Blood Scrivener was not.
I wanted to like Scrivener, and I'm really stoked about Asylum Visitor (like everyone else). He's so much better, especially because of the extra power, but the other "upgrades" aren't just flavour text either.
EDIT: Nevermind I forgot its Anguished Unmaking. Which is probably better.
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