Quote from ColbyCube »What are the targets that all you guys play that Ugin doesn't hit which you might care about ?
Quote from Antknee42 »I honestly don't compare Ugin and Karn at all. To me, the comparison should be with All is Dust, and Ugin is +1 mana for +DI upside. Going in my 570 for sure, but I'll have to find a cut for it since All is Dust was always just on the outside looking in for me.
Quote from voiddisciple »Why is it "each permanent ... that's one or more colors" and not just "each colored permanent ..."?
Quote from Salmo »It's just about reasonable expectations.
Quote from hardb0dy »I'll be passing up on this guy too. We actually don't even run Karn anymore...
Quote from wtwlf123 »In hardb0dy's defense, we were thinking about cutting Karn when we were at 360 too. It's not as good in small powered lists as it is in larger cubes supporting bigger threat decks and haymaker archetypes.
Quote from Samyueru
I mean, hell, we're all on a forum for something that most people would describe as a "children's card game"...do what makes you happy. You are never too old to enjoy yourself.
Quote from Konfusius »Adding a card (Karn Liberated) that costs 7 and can't be cheated into play with reanimation spells or Tinker is hard to justify at 360, because there are enough colorless threats that can be cheated.
Quote from Hicham »this guy fits right in and made us include Show and Tell
Quote from Averoth »Tested Ugin out a few times since his being spoiled and he has not disappointed. When Ugin resolved into a board position where his owner was way behind, he single handedly would either bring the board to parity or leave a battlefield with only him (as a relevant permanent) in play. In situations of parity, he usually came down, bolted something and created a board position that forced the opponent into bad plays to deal with him. When ahead, he either sealed it with bolts to the face or ran away with the game with an ultimate 3 turns later. He has never not had a HUGE impact on a board he was played into.
TLDR: auto include