MTG Salvation

Robber > Khenra > Immolator

Krasis > Nissa

Khenra >> Robber > Immolator

Krasis > Nissa

Carver > Scavenger > Engineer

Quote from SaucyFaucet »

heartfire immolator vs. earthshaker khenra vs. robber of the rich?

hydroid krasis vs. nissa, steward of elements?

nighthawk scavenger vs. flesh carver vs. plague engineer?

thanks so much!!

Krasis >> Nissa
Scavenger > Carver > Engineer

wall of roots vs wall of blossoms

Quote from Visserdrix »

wall of roots vs wall of blossoms

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate and argue that 2 mana green dorks are not playable outside of:
- Devoted Druid
- Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
- Lotus Cobra

I think you all the 1 mana dorks should be played first, including:
- Exploration
- Utopia Sprawl
- Wild Growth

Other fast mana I would consider playing over a turn 2 mana dork:
- Azusa, Lost but Seeking
- Earthcraft
- Growing Rites of Itlimoc
- Kodma's Reach

The problem with 2 mana dorks is you're wasting your first 3 mana (turn 1 + turn 2) for a mana investment that you will only get back by turn 5, unlike a turn 1 dork that will get it turn 3 (not including the benefit gained from acceleration.

I would consider the myr cycle over any green 2 drop mana dork.

For this reason, I would give the edge to wall of blossom.

Quote from Visserdrix »

wall of roots vs wall of blossoms

I like Wall of Blossoms quite a bit, but Wall of Roots is an outstanding cube card.

Wall of Roots is awesome. Wall of Blossoms is great, but I don't run it anymore at 465 cards. Wall of Roots is in no danger of being cut.

Cheers,
rant

@Breathe1234 I agree with parts of this assessment, but Wall of Roots exceeds your proposed situation. It produces mana instantly. It produces mana on your opponent’s turn, after producing on yours. It blocks better than any mana dork mentioned. It never taps.

Wall of Roots > Wall of Blossoms

Quote from SaucyFaucet »

@Breathe1234 I agree with parts of this assessment, but Wall of Roots exceeds your proposed situation. It produces mana instantly. It produces mana on your opponent’s turn, after producing on yours. It blocks better than any mana dork mentioned. It never taps.

Wall of Roots > Wall of Blossoms

I never thought about that actually - you can use it on your opponent's turn.

thanks guys! I havent played either of them in my own list and they are both staples for a lot of people. My green section has been hurting and aggro has been running a bit rampant so I thought one or both of these might give green a bit of a buff.

I actually want to come back to the discussion about of Wall of Roots:

I've ran some numbers on the minimum number of artifact ramp needed to support WildFire/ Upheaval/ Balace etc Archetype. I've noticed that our cube lists are consistently underplaying the number of artifact ramp required for a consistency level similar to other archetypes. (See my Calculations on Minimum Archetype Support).

There are some playable 2 mana rocks
- Star Compass
- Sphere of the Suns
- Fractured Powerstone
- Thought Vessel
- Prismatic Lens
- Charcoal Diamond
- Fire Diamond
- Marble Diamond
- Moss Diamond
- Sky Diamond

Wall of Roots has good utility in Pod/ Aristocrat decks, but I've noticed these decks are frequently over supported and 2 are easily replacable, while mana rocks are not.

If you are supporting WildFire (which unfortunately OP isn't), I would recommend playing more mana rocks over 2 mana green mana dorks and potentially open those slots for other archetypes.

@Breathe1234 I always feel like I need more mana rocks, thanks for the suggestions. Personally, I could never cut green slots for more colorless slots, though. Unless you mean working a higher # of 2-drop rampers into colorless more and finding other green 2’s, which I also wouldn’t prefer, because Rofellos and Cobra are busted, and Sylvan Caryatid does a lot of things.

-Tezzeret The Seeker vs. Tezzeret, Artifice Master vs. Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas (regardless of slot use)

I’m assuming Urza, Lord High Artificer is better than all 3 in most peoples’ eyes.

Also:

Questing Beast vs. Nightpack Ambusher
Crawling Barrens vs. erratic portal vs. darksteel colossus
(moreso I’d just like to hear if people have tried/still play the Iron Giant, since Infect is a no-go for my design.)

Urza >> AoB = The Seeker > Artifice Master

Beast >> Ambusher

Quote from SaucyFaucet »

@Breathe1234 I always feel like I need more mana rocks, thanks for the suggestions. Personally, I could never cut green slots for more colorless slots, though. Unless you mean working a higher # of 2-drop rampers into colorless more and finding other green 2’s, which I also wouldn’t prefer, because Rofellos and Cobra are busted, and Sylvan Caryatid does a lot of things.

-Tezzeret The Seeker vs. Tezzeret, Artifice Master vs. Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas (regardless of slot use)

I’m assuming Urza, Lord High Artificer is better than all 3 in most peoples’ eyes.

Also:

Questing Beast vs. Nightpack Ambusher
Crawling Barrens vs. erratic portal vs. darksteel colossus
(moreso I’d just like to hear if people have tried/still play the Iron Giant, since Infect is a no-go for my design.)

Urza is better than all the Tezzerets. We only play Artifice Master, as it is the most playable of the three outside of a dedicated artifacts deck.

Beast is at least a league above ambusher.