I like Winter Orb here, both for reasons of card I'd least like to face in the pack, and likelihood of wheeling a solid aggro card here in either B, R or W.
Koth I like the synergy with our P1P1 Winter Orb. Untap a land for +1 and potentially swing filling the agro roll. Double red is not ideal but it's not back breaking like triple blue on future sight.
Swords to Plowshares for me. Hard to find better removal. It only cost W and kills almosty everything. Also I think Winter Orb shines in a white based aggro deck more then it does in a midrangy red deck.
Survival is a great pick too. Personally I am tempted by the Llannowar Elves as they are so crucial in a lot of builds, but Swords is just too good too pass.
Koth is fine. I would have picked Swords if I was confident Cloudgoat would table, but with the strength of the pack I dont think he will. Picking up Gruul Signet on the wheel will be nice.
Taking swords means we are sending somebody else Cloudgoat Ranger, and sending the signal that red is wide open if we don't take Koth. - As we are probably playing aggro, I wouldn't want the best aggro color to be cut from us pack 2 because we put the guy to our left into red.
I was tempted to take swords as well, but I couldn't pass on the Koth-Orb synergy.
My 2 cents is that Survival has huge potential to combo with Winter Orb (group pick 1). Survival is also the biggest thing to give up (over greaves). I'm picking survival because it sets you up SO WELL.
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I mean, hell, we're all on a forum for something that most people would describe as a "children's card game"...do what makes you happy. You are never too old to enjoy yourself.
Agreed. Black Vise is good for aggro, and good with Winter Orb. Both the Treespeaker and the Lynx would be nice too, but I don't want to move into another color just yet.
I'll change my vote to Winter Orb, but I still like Mox Diamond more as a card.
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You can still pick diamond lol, I don't expect anyone to change their votes I just like discussing.
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Aaaand we're off with the second pack.
1 Reanimate
1 Chain Lightning
1 Cultivate
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Koth of the Hammer
1 Cloudgoat Ranger
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Gruul Signet
1 Forbid
1 Honor of the Pure
1 Duress
Edit: Added in the pack in text form.
EDIT: with the pack, i really hate passing SoF and Greaves. But I have to stick with Koth, he gets around winter's orb, adds to aggressive style.
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1 Cultivate
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Koth of the Hammer
1 Cloudgoat Ranger
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Gruul Signet
1 Forbid
1 Honor of the Pure
1 Duress
How so? He can generate mana with out tapping for mana, he untap a land to use it as a creature if need be, or just use it as a land.
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Actually Koth synergizes pretty well with orb. He would be my pick.
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although it is hard to let survival pass
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Survival is a great pick too. Personally I am tempted by the Llannowar Elves as they are so crucial in a lot of builds, but Swords is just too good too pass.
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I was tempted to take swords as well, but I couldn't pass on the Koth-Orb synergy.
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Koth of the Hammer joins Winter Orb in your pile.
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Keiga, the Tide Star
1 Steppe Lynx
1 Inferno Titan
1 Razormane Masticore
1 Thought Courier
1 Joraga Treespeaker
1 Dimir Signet
1 Control Magic
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1 Oblivion Stone
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