GB Aggro never was played, even when I went the Wild Dogs route and supported it heavily in green. I've seen black aggro matched effectively with red (most often) and white (with lots of token/stax shenanigans), but never green. It might be because there is no one signal card that would draw people into those colors in aggro.
I'm curious, has anyone seen a GB aggro, like, ever?
Maybe once. And even then it was more like an aggresive midrange deck. There are no very stong gold cards for aggro, unlike in RG and GW.
We get a lot of GW aggro and lately RG has been making a come back, but GU or GB don't happen (splashes for power cards notwithstanding).
RG aggro is very strong in my cube but BG is always midrange, reanimator, or ramp. BG aggro happens very rarely. WG aggro is a good deck when it comes together. Naya aggro is pretty nasty. I support green aggro with Wild Dogs, Jungle Lion, etc. because I think supporting aggro in four colors is optimal for giving aggro all the tools it needs to be an even competitor.
I stopped supporting aggro in green, but missed it after about a year of leaving it out. I've now brought some support back in. Now my green section feels a little more versatile in the decks that it can produce and I like it better overall.
Black is pretty much the same way. There was a push for Pox a while back, but I don't think there was ever much of an effort to decrease black aggro. I'm supporting both archetypes in my list and I'm happy with how it's playing out.
As far as a GB aggro deck, they come together from time to time, but mostly GB is a midrange color combo.
I've done hardly any research into cubes, but they sound like a good way to practice draft for free, in addition to providing an interesting and fun to play limited format.
What numbers should I be looking at for an 8 person cube? Some calculations:
Per 'pack':
11 Commons
3 Uncommons
1 Rare/Mythic
1 Land
16*3*8 = 384
For some variance I was thinking 400 cards.
Approximately:
60 Black
60 Green
60 Red
60 Blue
60 White
60 Artifact/Multicolour
24 Lands
16 Cards scattered throughout
Does this sound okay? I'm not really planning on transporting it, just having at home.
I've done hardly any research into cubes, but they sound like a good way to practice draft for free, in addition to providing an interesting and fun to play limited format.
What numbers should I be looking at for an 8 person cube? Some calculations:
Per 'pack':
11 Commons
3 Uncommons
1 Rare/Mythic
1 Land
16*3*8 = 384
For some variance I was thinking 400 cards.
Approximately:
60 Black
60 Green
60 Red
60 Blue
60 White
60 Artifact/Multicolour
24 Lands
16 Cards scattered throughout
Does this sound okay? I'm not really planning on transporting it, just having at home.
Most cubes (mine included) just randomize the packs regardless of rarity. Cubes are generally built with the best/most fun cards without any thought towards whether they're rare or common. Just a thought.
Also, regarding your section sizes. At 400, 60 per color may be too big. Assuming you want a 10th of your cube to be fixing (a common standard) that means you'd want at least 40 lands. In addition to that, assuming you just run 3 cards per guild, which can lead to some frustrating cuts in some color combinations, that only leaves 30 slots for artifacts. I highly recommend putting together a skeleton list on cubetutor or a spreadsheet just to get yourself organized before you get too deep into the process.
I recently built a custom 360 card cube based on flavor from the SNES. I am super happy with how it turned out and it has been a ton of fun drafting over the past week. I figure I'd share our V1.0 with you all.
I recently built a custom 360 card cube based on flavor from the SNES. I am super happy with how it turned out and it has been a ton of fun drafting over the past week. I figure I'd share our V1.0 with you all.
I really want to fully appreciate all the work you did on this, but I literally only played 1 SNES game (I was an NES/Genesis/Playstation person), and that was Chrono Trigger, so most of the awesome flavor is lost on me
Seriously great work, though. Great mix of your two biggest hobby interests!
Four packs of 11 is probably the best way to draft with a smaller group. We've found that normal 15 card packs tend to net you a lot more time with a pack than you really need as most packs of this size aren't going to have more than a few playables for your colors. Using more packs gets you the same card pool, but a better deck.
For those with the benefit of experience, how do the decks tend to turn out when drafting with 4 people, using 5 packs of 9? I guess a 450 cube will cause a bit more variance than a 360? Just wondering as I've got some friends visiting in a few weeks and this is how I was planning on drafting.
For those with the benefit of experience, how do the decks tend to turn out when drafting with 4 people, using 5 packs of 9? I guess a 450 cube will cause a bit more variance than a 360? Just wondering as I've got some friends visiting in a few weeks and this is how I was planning on drafting.
We pretty much exclusively draft with less than eight people. Outside of when my friend and I do a faux 8-man in which we each draft four of the decks (which is an incredibly fun way to spend 4-5 hours if you've got the time) and Winston drafts, we always end up with 3-5 people. In all honesty the decks turn out about the same as what you'd expect from an 8-man in my experience. The last time we did that I was able to throw together a very aggressive Boros build with relative ease. You do have to value some things a little higher (like reanimation or fatties if you're trying to draft that deck) but for the most part the end results aren't much different.
It's not the entire spoiler, just the complex stuff. It's some find though! There isn't too much to get excited about for us cubers but that Courser is Ok.
In other news: Is anybody interested in continuing the Cube Index thread (which is the basis for the cube comparison data)? If that is not the case, I am shutting down the thread and the cube comparison thread that comes with it.
Awww man, that's a huge loss. As someone who can't be as active as the rest of the Cubers (new baby, work, etc.), I get a lot of use as a consumer of that data. Thanks for providing the data for us for so long!
In other news: Is anybody interested in continuing the Cube Index thread (which is the basis for the cube comparison data)? If that is not the case, I am shutting down the thread and the cube comparison thread that comes with it.
While I do like the data, I never bother to add my cube anymore.
The main list I maintain is over on cubetutor. Can you pull cube data directly from that?
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Total side note but I like how people are discussing running this over itself.
Well, it has to be said that Kolaghan is clearly better than Kolaghan. Considering what BR decks usually want and how stiff the competition in this guild is, there is no way that I would run Kolaghan over Kolaghan! Kolaghan might make it in as the sixth guild card or so. Kolaghan on the other hand ranks several places below that.
It was so funny to me when they described this as a downgrade to the original Zurgo during the Pax East panel. I was thinking if this is a downgrade, they should really "downgrade" all legendary creatures. Haha.
My deck designing is quite concise at this point:
1. Come up with deck idea
2. Realize this idea is somehow fundamentally similar to another deck I have or that is commonly played in my group
3. Decide I don't want to disassemble one of my existing decks
4. Give up and do nothing
I don't see the point of this new shroud mechanic. It's strictly worse than Hexproof. Threshold is pretty bad too, Delirium is a much better mechanic and probably easier to activate.
Otherwise this card is a pretty neat guy. Dodges removal and grows into a Primal Huntbeast. 3/5
Do the lands like Drowned Catacombs have a better name than "those taplands from M10 and Innistrad"?
Some are distinct, like the awesome sounding Hinterland Harbor (alliterations, amirite?) but there are only a few more I could name off the top of my head.
Maybe once. And even then it was more like an aggresive midrange deck. There are no very stong gold cards for aggro, unlike in RG and GW.
We get a lot of GW aggro and lately RG has been making a come back, but GU or GB don't happen (splashes for power cards notwithstanding).
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Black is pretty much the same way. There was a push for Pox a while back, but I don't think there was ever much of an effort to decrease black aggro. I'm supporting both archetypes in my list and I'm happy with how it's playing out.
As far as a GB aggro deck, they come together from time to time, but mostly GB is a midrange color combo.
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What numbers should I be looking at for an 8 person cube? Some calculations:
Per 'pack':
11 Commons
3 Uncommons
1 Rare/Mythic
1 Land
16*3*8 = 384
For some variance I was thinking 400 cards.
Approximately:
60 Black
60 Green
60 Red
60 Blue
60 White
60 Artifact/Multicolour
24 Lands
16 Cards scattered throughout
Does this sound okay? I'm not really planning on transporting it, just having at home.
Most cubes (mine included) just randomize the packs regardless of rarity. Cubes are generally built with the best/most fun cards without any thought towards whether they're rare or common. Just a thought.
Also, regarding your section sizes. At 400, 60 per color may be too big. Assuming you want a 10th of your cube to be fixing (a common standard) that means you'd want at least 40 lands. In addition to that, assuming you just run 3 cards per guild, which can lead to some frustrating cuts in some color combinations, that only leaves 30 slots for artifacts. I highly recommend putting together a skeleton list on cubetutor or a spreadsheet just to get yourself organized before you get too deep into the process.
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This is just the greatest thing. Props for all your hard work!
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Seriously great work, though. Great mix of your two biggest hobby interests!
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My group has enjoyed doing 5 packs of 9, seems to work out reasonably well for us. The small pack sizes keep things fresh.
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I like 5 packs of 9 when we only have 4 players.
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We pretty much exclusively draft with less than eight people. Outside of when my friend and I do a faux 8-man in which we each draft four of the decks (which is an incredibly fun way to spend 4-5 hours if you've got the time) and Winston drafts, we always end up with 3-5 people. In all honesty the decks turn out about the same as what you'd expect from an 8-man in my experience. The last time we did that I was able to throw together a very aggressive Boros build with relative ease. You do have to value some things a little higher (like reanimation or fatties if you're trying to draft that deck) but for the most part the end results aren't much different.
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Awww man, that's a huge loss. As someone who can't be as active as the rest of the Cubers (new baby, work, etc.), I get a lot of use as a consumer of that data. Thanks for providing the data for us for so long!
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My Article - "Mana Short: A study in limited resource management."
My 50th Set (P)review - Discusses my top 20 Cube cards from OTJ!
While I do like the data, I never bother to add my cube anymore.
The main list I maintain is over on cubetutor. Can you pull cube data directly from that?
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Some are distinct, like the awesome sounding Hinterland Harbor (alliterations, amirite?) but there are only a few more I could name off the top of my head.
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