yep, their it is, so... what do ya guys think? (took me long enough... so, good night!)
note: It looks kinda like an Agro deck with a little bit of control...
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hum... seems a little meh... but I'm glad to have feed back!
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well thanx all... the origonal build had 3 sloggers... but was cut down to 1 to make room for Tops... the card is nice yes... but well... I don't like eating my deck that much... especially if it removes a win condition... well... I'm guna playtest it now and tell you guys how it gose Vs. G/B... I can already tell you their are possibly to meany 1 drops... and sry if my spelling appals you... I don't get out much. Off I go!
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sorry...
any who... back from playtesting... with-out SB in the first game Vs. G/B this deck has a 30% win chance... no creatures to kill... take out: 3 bolts, 4 oxi, 2 pyro. add: 1 slogger, 3 Time of Need, 1 falling, 1 rising, 2 becon, 1 fireball... now your chances go up a hell of a lot.
as for Kumano, he's the bread and butter in this match up... make sure you have a lot of red mana open, or do at least 4 damage to Kukusho wth something else, and then burn the dragon for 1R... removing it... invaluble... Slogger gets credity to when along side with Kodama... don't be afraid to shoot burn at your opponents head, as the B/G lacks creatures... the Tops are also invaluble in the deck from my experiance... they allow me to find what I need quickly... so their not that bad... I also tryed playing this deck with plowunders... it just dosen't seem to work that well... but I'll try it again via subing out the tops for plowunders and see how it goes... as for the witness... they run for about $9 here! so... I have 3... I don't need to pay $9 for another... and Kumana stays in I think... but perhaps I'll put a slogger in main and put a Yamabushi in the SB... :/ again thanx for all the help! (oh... and the starting hand for my B/G deck was as follows: swamp, swamp, forest, elder, reach, Kokusho, random other card. so my opponent tells me... and that was just horrable...)
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Tops go bye bye. Bring in Sloggers and Plow Unders. The power of Magic compels you to. Have you ever not listened to Magic before? I didn't think so.
Kumano >> Slogger.
Ask any pro.
Sure you can do 2 for R, but when it comes down to it, you get WAY more use of out Kumano.
Running them both is probably your best bet.
ya... spirit killing goodness... smachs Kokusho hard... and that's why he's in... glad you agree with me.
edit: I was thinking about taking out the Bolts or the Pyros... the Bolts beacuse their isen't aren't tomeany artifact decks running around any-more and I still have some artifact hate... they also make good burn... the Pyros... I have yet to play... and they aren't that good... to meany 1-2 power creatures in my deck... so... ya. what to take out and what to put in... (the pyros would also be good in the right situation. ex. WW... but... no)
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I'm not sold on the Isao's, I know he's good, he just doesn't look like he fits the deck. Iwamori maybe? Not that many decks play with legendary critters yet ( cept black, dont play him vs b/g). Flames of the blodhand works pretty well vs b/g with their kokusho shenanigans. Sorry I'm just throwin out ideas here, but the red shoal should be an immediate consideration as should the Green Genju (GG, heh). I'd say green genjus over Isao, beefyer, drop sooner and more versatile.
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Hey. I saw that Heartbeat of Spring was mentioned earlier. You should add in a Joiner Adept and a Vernal Bloom. This way, if you have both out, your Forests tap for :symg::symr:, which is just the right price for massive Kumano pinging! I use this in my red\green deck and works out well when at eot i can basically RFG all creatures on the board. ^.^
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I might move Isao to the SB... I already have to meany 3 drops... and the ting is... their is already enough mana excell in the deck... I think adding the 3 mentioned cards would be a little to much. Flames... I have no idea... I've yet to read the card. Iwamari might seem good for this deck... but he's not really... again possibly SB. Thanx all!
edit: I was thinking about taking out the pyros for Firewalkers... but I'm still not so sure... to playtest I go!
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i definately agrre on kumano. hes a house. too bad you cant get another witness...are they really $9 USD there? im glad i picked up my double playsets early:shocked2:
ya... they cost a pritty penny... but awakening is only $3 so ya... it's odd here. :/ the deck works well... but the Pyros just need to go... :/ (I also find that 3 witness is a good number for this build...)
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When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block. "Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
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Heh, yeah it was a serious pain to get the 4 witnesses for my R/G. Had to trade a crainial.... not that bad really. Yeah... i have always had a problem with Acetics... not that they are a bad card... i just dont like them.
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Definitely looks fun. Kinda expensive for casual though, don't you think? With a little changing it could go competitive...
Still would be great at FNM though.
FNM? ya... it basicaly is a competitive deck now... I've been play-testing it and it's fun as hell. I was thinking about taking out the pyros and adding the two dragons as they be bombs... and possibly 3 other things (wich I haven't decided yet) for 3 Time of Needs... but I'm just not sure... right now it's proxyed... only real cards are the basic lands, Falling star, 1 Kumano, 1 Reach, 1 Elder, 2 jets and 1 Top... as I need the vast majority of the cards... along with some being in other decks... :/
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Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block. "Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
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x4 Sakura-Tribe Elder -Mana x-cell
x4 Kodamas Reach -Mana fix
x4 Frostling -Creature kill
x4 Magma jet -Creature kill/Sercher
x2 Pyroclasm -Creature kill
x4 Oxidize -... self explanitory
x3 Electrostatic Bolt -... self explanitory
x1 Arc-Slogger -for those hard to reach players
x3 Eternal Witness -*cough*er... do I need to say anything?
x2 Kumano, Master Yamabushi -Creature Control
x2 Isao, Enlightened Bushi -Helps put a stop to those U/G decks we have here
x1 Kodama of the North Tree -big stompy
x2 Troll Ascetic -helps fight U/G, keeps pressure on
x2 Senseis Divining Top -serch
x2 Shivan Oasis
x1 Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep
x1 Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers
x8 Mountain
x10 Forest
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Side Board:
x2 Fumiko the Lowblood -keep the pressure
x2 Rude Awakening -finisher
x1 Pyroclasm -more kill
x1 Fireball -finisher
x1 Jugan, the Rising Star -eh
x1 Ryusei, the Falling Star -eh
x2 Arc-Slogger -um... why not?
x2 Beacon of Destruction -mmm... re-usable burn
x3 Time of Need -serch
yep, their it is, so... what do ya guys think? (took me long enough... so, good night!)
note: It looks kinda like an Agro deck with a little bit of control...
Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
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A staple for this deck
Double your Kumano power!
Otherwise looks good!
Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
2/2
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=519290
You need 4 witnesses for sure.
Also Arc Slogger is better than Kumano
-2 Kumano
+2 Arc Slogger
And for god sakes learn to spell search, it's not that hard.
Please don't double post. Use the edit button.
-Sneaky
Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
2/2
any who... back from playtesting... with-out SB in the first game Vs. G/B this deck has a 30% win chance... no creatures to kill... take out: 3 bolts, 4 oxi, 2 pyro. add: 1 slogger, 3 Time of Need, 1 falling, 1 rising, 2 becon, 1 fireball... now your chances go up a hell of a lot.
as for Kumano, he's the bread and butter in this match up... make sure you have a lot of red mana open, or do at least 4 damage to Kukusho wth something else, and then burn the dragon for 1R... removing it... invaluble... Slogger gets credity to when along side with Kodama... don't be afraid to shoot burn at your opponents head, as the B/G lacks creatures... the Tops are also invaluble in the deck from my experiance... they allow me to find what I need quickly... so their not that bad... I also tryed playing this deck with plowunders... it just dosen't seem to work that well... but I'll try it again via subing out the tops for plowunders and see how it goes... as for the witness... they run for about $9 here! so... I have 3... I don't need to pay $9 for another... and Kumana stays in I think... but perhaps I'll put a slogger in main and put a Yamabushi in the SB... :/ again thanx for all the help! (oh... and the starting hand for my B/G deck was as follows: swamp, swamp, forest, elder, reach, Kokusho, random other card. so my opponent tells me... and that was just horrable...)
Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
2/2
Kumano >> Slogger.
Ask any pro.
Sure you can do 2 for R, but when it comes down to it, you get WAY more use of out Kumano.
Running them both is probably your best bet.
edit: I was thinking about taking out the Bolts or the Pyros... the Bolts beacuse their isen't aren't tomeany artifact decks running around any-more and I still have some artifact hate... they also make good burn... the Pyros... I have yet to play... and they aren't that good... to meany 1-2 power creatures in my deck... so... ya. what to take out and what to put in... (the pyros would also be good in the right situation. ex. WW... but... no)
Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
2/2
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Standard: Junk Super Friends, Elf-Wave
Elder Dragon Highlander: Animar, Skithiryx, Bosh, Konda, Wort, Ezuri, Patron of the Moon
edit: I was thinking about taking out the pyros for Firewalkers... but I'm still not so sure... to playtest I go!
Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
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Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
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When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
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Definitely looks fun. Kinda expensive for casual though, don't you think? With a little changing it could go competitive...
Still would be great at FNM though.
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Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
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When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
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