It has Master Biomancer So i'm in! The Deck can worok if the right cards are in an out let's review your list shall we?
3 Deathrite Shaman - hmm can gain life in times of need or make him loose life. the odds of teh first ability being used is really low on your own side of the graveyard anyways. Perhaps another card could be used.
1 Snapcaster Mage - Good addition could go up to 2? since you do have a decent amount of removal where you could benefit from them in great time of need. Though Jace can dig for him.
3 - Vampire Nighthawk - a really good card in the current meta game. With all the flying creature around.
4 - Master Biomancer - the go Over the top of Other Midrange card. (like i said i love this card )
3 - Thragtusk - It probably run 4 and cut a nighthawk and put the hawk in the side board. but 3 is still a good number with the Skullcrack printing he probably won't be as good but only time will tell us that.
2 - Prime Speaker Zegana. - Awesome card glad is being used in your list.
Removal Package is there. if Hexproof Aura's is going to be a permanent part of the meta game perhaps adding move edict's would be the right choice.
Liliana seems to be doing good in the Jund deck but they don't have Jace for the card Advantage
I was playing a draft match, and I had a Serra Angel out. I went to swing with it, and by accident made the motion to tap it. The other player untapped it and said:
"I know you want to tap that, but she's a respectable gal with vigilance."
Biomancer + Cavern of Souls doesn't work like that. The creatures aren't Mutants as they are being cast, they become mutants after resolving and entering the battlefield.
(it says tempo but my feelings are it's closer to midrange)
If I were to do this would probably cut some spells and delvers for cloudfin raptors or invisible stalker, thragtusks, a liliana or two, and a runecaster pike. Don't think even with a 46% chance to flip a delver is enough and not sure sure how I feel about mayor, if it flips it can start making an army for us but it has to flip to do anything.
I have been testing my updated list above to positive results. Went to a 100+ man sealed tournament this weekend and tested it out between rounds. I have made a few changes as you can see. I dropped the Cavern of Souls from the list because as stated above, it doesn't work the way I originally thought.
I have been testing with good success lately. I have dropped the Prime Speaker Zegana. She is too slow and expensive. She has no evasion as a creature, by the time you can cast her to draw cards, it is too late against most of the Aggro decks in the format, she also gets countered a lot when she comes down, unless you have alchemist's refuge in which case she is even more expensive. I added 2 more Snapcaster to the main board because it has been very good for me. When he comes down, most of the time I have a Biomancer in play, making him a 4/3 blocker and giving me access to more removal. If you can fight off the early game with Nighthawks and removal, you can lock the game down quick since Biomancer's 4 toughness makes himself hard to remove. Every creature that comes in after is much better! I also added another abrupt decay to the MB. It is an amazing card in today's for,at and dare I say the best removal in the format?
Has anyone else been testing? What are your thoughts?
If I were to do this would probably cut some spells and delvers for cloudfin raptors or invisible stalker, thragtusks, a liliana or two, and a runecaster pike. Don't think even with a 46% chance to flip a delver is enough and not sure sure how I feel about mayor, if it flips it can start making an army for us but it has to flip to do anything.
This deck reminds me a ton of "UG Counterwolves" decks that appeared around ISD/DKA. The main issue with the deck was mana, since we only had access to one set of UG duals. Some people splashed R for Huntmaster and Daybreak Ranger, but I can explain some of these choices... but once Delver became a thing it was really not worth trying to bring G into the picture since Delver was doing everything we were at the time (we were playing Snag, Leak, and Pike).
Turn one Delver, Turn two Mayor was actually VERY hard to beat at the time, even without a Ponder, esp since Delver is a Human on both sides. The trick was not clogging up your deck with too many creatures (we had maybe 12-16 at most, with Images in the SB for Giest hate). As long as you can protect them, it's a realy fun and worthy trick to pull off. I do like his build a ton, and am thinking of dusting off the Counterwolves shell and adapting it to B like this.
3x Deathrite Shaman
3x Snapcaster Mage
3x Vampire Nighthawk
3x Master Biomancer
4x Thragtusk
Planeswalkers (4)
2x Jace, Architect of Thought
1x Garruk, Primal Hunter
1x Liliana of the Veil
Other Spells (16)
4x Farseek
2x Devour Flesh
1x Ultimate Price
1x Think Twice
3x Simic Charm
2x Dissipate
3x Abrupt Decay
4x Breeding Pool
3x Watery Grave
3x Overgrown Tomb
4x Hinterland Harbor
2x Drowned Catacomb
3x Woodland Cemetery
2x Alchemist Refuge
1x Forest
1x Swamp
1x Island
2x Vraska the Unseen
2x Dimir Charm
2x AEtherize
1x Liliana of the Veil
1x Vampire Nighthawk
2x Ultimate Price
3x Rancor
1x Abrupt Decay
1x Devour Flesh
Please discuss. What are the odds something like this could be successful?
3 Deathrite Shaman - hmm can gain life in times of need or make him loose life. the odds of teh first ability being used is really low on your own side of the graveyard anyways. Perhaps another card could be used.
1 Snapcaster Mage - Good addition could go up to 2? since you do have a decent amount of removal where you could benefit from them in great time of need. Though Jace can dig for him.
3 - Vampire Nighthawk - a really good card in the current meta game. With all the flying creature around.
4 - Master Biomancer - the go Over the top of Other Midrange card. (like i said i love this card )
3 - Thragtusk - It probably run 4 and cut a nighthawk and put the hawk in the side board. but 3 is still a good number with the Skullcrack printing he probably won't be as good but only time will tell us that.
2 - Prime Speaker Zegana. - Awesome card glad is being used in your list.
Removal Package is there. if Hexproof Aura's is going to be a permanent part of the meta game perhaps adding move edict's would be the right choice.
Liliana seems to be doing good in the Jund deck but they don't have Jace for the card Advantage
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Kinda works with the shaman.
Creature package would be:
PW package would be:
Liliana of the Veil
If I were to remove the Seer, then I'd definitely try out the Biomancer.
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I don't think it works like that... The creatures wouldn't be mutants until they came into play..
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Mayor of Avabruck
4 Snapcaster Mage
3 Island
4 Breeding Pool
3 Drowned Catacomb
1 Hinterland Harbor
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Watery Grave
1 Woodland Cemetery
3 Devour Flesh
4 Dimir Charm
2 Dispel
4 Simic Charm
4 Thought Scour
3 Ultimate Price
4 Knight of Infamy
1 Devour Flesh
3 Essence Scatter
2 Golgari Charm
1 Negate
1 Ultimate Price
3 Duress
(it says tempo but my feelings are it's closer to midrange)
If I were to do this would probably cut some spells and delvers for cloudfin raptors or invisible stalker, thragtusks, a liliana or two, and a runecaster pike. Don't think even with a 46% chance to flip a delver is enough and not sure sure how I feel about mayor, if it flips it can start making an army for us but it has to flip to do anything.
Has anyone else been testing? What are your thoughts?
This deck reminds me a ton of "UG Counterwolves" decks that appeared around ISD/DKA. The main issue with the deck was mana, since we only had access to one set of UG duals. Some people splashed R for Huntmaster and Daybreak Ranger, but I can explain some of these choices... but once Delver became a thing it was really not worth trying to bring G into the picture since Delver was doing everything we were at the time (we were playing Snag, Leak, and Pike).
Turn one Delver, Turn two Mayor was actually VERY hard to beat at the time, even without a Ponder, esp since Delver is a Human on both sides. The trick was not clogging up your deck with too many creatures (we had maybe 12-16 at most, with Images in the SB for Giest hate). As long as you can protect them, it's a realy fun and worthy trick to pull off. I do like his build a ton, and am thinking of dusting off the Counterwolves shell and adapting it to B like this.