Does anyone else think that this card is stupidly absurd to deal with? Even if you, kill (or better exile) it, the card advantage it's given your opponent ridiculous. And if they start looping them, its GG. At least the Titans didn't get your opponents Thragtusks and Armada Wurm's back from the grave.
Yes, this card is patently ridiculous. It can run your opponents out of their removal in short order, if they even have any left by the time she comes down.
Great card.
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Very good card. I am honestly astounded that the pricetag isn't bigger than it currently is. I picked my "playset" (only 3) up for $13 a piece and was thrilled to only pay that much.
It puts enemies in such a ridiculous situation. It's lose/lose for them most of the time.
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Very strong without a doubt and absolutely retarded in multiples. Only issue is high mana cost and complete devotion to white due to WWW. Also I think it gets hit by alot of the removal in the format so it might not be the finisher of choice imo.
Very strong without a doubt and absolutely retarded in multiples. Only issue is high mana cost and complete devotion to white due to WWW. Also I think it gets hit by alot of the removal in the format so it might not be the finisher of choice imo.
If you're using it to cycle, removing it would give it value.
The minute she was spoiled I immediately told my friends I thought she was the second coming or even a direct upgrade to Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite. They were like, whatever, she's too expensive/blah blah blah/ramp won't be a thing anymore. EDH funsies for Kaalia players. The usual, along with the cynical mentality that pre-ordering her/preordering in general was a bad move.
So, I preordered a full 4 playset for $7 a pop. They're up to $18 as of today on TCGplayer median price. They got in the mail yesterday for me, previous naysaying friends feel robbed right about now. Sure I'll gladly pay $30 (plus shipping) for 4 of these, instead of $80 for a playset.
EDIT: My jaw just hit the floor, checked price again, she's actually pushing $19.50 as of this afternoon.
Yo dawg Frites Player, we herd you liked getting 1 for 3'd by Angel of Serenity, so we put some Angels in your Angel (Avacyn) so you can get chained while you get exiled. ANGELCEPTION.
The minute she was spoiled I immediately told my friends I thought she was the second coming or even a direct upgrade to Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite. They were like, whatever, she's too expensive/blah blah blah/ramp won't be a thing anymore. EDH funsies for Kaalia players. The usual, along with the cynical mentality that pre-ordering her/preordering in general was a bad move.
So, I preordered a full 4 playset for $7 a pop. They're up to $18 as of today on TCGplayer median price. They got in the mail yesterday for me, previous naysaying friends feel robbed right about now. Sure I'll gladly pay $30 (plus shipping) for 4 of these, instead of $80 for a playset.
EDIT: My jaw just hit the floor, checked price again, she's actually pushing $19.50 as of this afternoon.
She's nowhere near the second coming of anything. She's good, but doesn't provide near the same value Elesh Norn does when she hits the board. The only card that resembles a second coming is Deathrite Shaman which is the second coming of Noble Hierarch in Modern, and it's mindblowing that the price on that card isn't 20 bucks each.
She's nowhere near the second coming of anything. She's good, but doesn't provide near the same value Elesh Norn does when she hits the board. The only card that resembles a second coming is Deathrite Shaman which is the second coming of Noble Hierarch in Modern, and it's mindblowing that the price on that card isn't 20 bucks each.
Which they'll hit, trust me.
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought we were discussing a newly released standard card, in the standard forums apparently, and the impact it would have on standard. And at the same CMC, similar power level, and similar massive ETB effect. Oh what's that? Angel of Serenity is winning games left and right and warping the format and settling up at 19-20 already? Pic related, it's my ramp deck. Oh, I heard she's good in standard white based control as a finisher too.
Yo dawg Frites Player, we herd you liked getting 1 for 3'd by Angel of Serenity, so we put some Angels in your Angel (Avacyn) so you can get chained while you get exiled. ANGELCEPTION.
Yo dawg Frites Player, we herd you liked getting 1 for 3'd by Angel of Serenity, so we put some Angels in your Angel (Avacyn) so you can get chained while you get exiled. ANGELCEPTION.
It'll be interesting to see how the supposed "supply shortage" affects chase mythics.
I'm with Cassial. But, the Angel is more of a 2nd coming Primeval Titan, imo ;)... it's just soooo easy to ramp into her WITHOUT Unburial Rites. And if you happen to hit two Angels... the "lock" is nearly impossible to beat without straight GY hate.
It's an instant speed 5/5 trampler for 4. Wtf do you people want seriously? It has applications in populate/ above the curve beats decks, or in Bant control/ flash. I seriously think anyone mad at this card for any reason other than losing an attacker to instant speed wurm, should go home and make their own awesome card game and leave the rest of us alone.
It'll be interesting to see how the supposed "supply shortage" affects chase mythics.
I'm with Cassial. But, the Angel is more of a 2nd coming Primeval Titan, imo ;)... it's just soooo easy to ramp into her WITHOUT Unburial Rites. And if you happen to hit two Angels... the "lock" is nearly impossible to beat without straight GY hate.
My opponents can never really stop the angel combo because I often target GoST or Snapcaster with it and my opponent gets more hesitant to blow her up.
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Degenerate? Sure. Loudmouth? You bet. Law abiding? No ****ing way.
But yeah, I've been testing this deck against unreasonably large amounts of grave hate and haven't been losing. I can't imagine anything hosing AoS specifically that the rest of the deck can't play around if it has to.
But yeah, I've been testing this deck against unreasonably large amounts of grave hate and haven't been losing. I can't imagine anything hosing AoS specifically that the rest of the deck can't play around if it has to.
Yeah... until people start playing Slaughter Games in boards like they should be already because people don't have varied enough win cons in control decks.
Yeah... until people start playing Slaughter Games in boards like they should be already because people don't have varied enough win cons in control decks.
Unfortunately, Even if they have varied their win-cons Slaughter Games still hurts. This card alone really threatens the potential dominance of Entreat the Angels and Angel of Serenity style decks. I'm very excited to see how we (UWx) combat the Games.
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the flesh from your bones,
and scrape your bones dry,
and still you will not have suffered enough!
Quote the Ryxsyn;
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Unfortunately, Even if they have varied their win-cons Slaughter Games still hurts. This card alone really threatens the potential dominance of Entreat the Angels and Angel of Serenity style decks. I'm very excited to see how we (UWx) combat the Games.
Bant Control can give up sideboard answers to other decks to board into Midrange I guess. But that only seems like a good plan when the metagame has become static.
On 9/19/12 I made a call on this card: 25$, with 15-20% of high-placing States lists using it as a primary finisher. I'm feeling pretty good about that call now. I only wish I'd preorder 4 instead of 2 at 7.50 each.
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UD5, what, exactly, are you trying to accomplish with your deck? And im being serious. You need to be able to state your deck's objective clearly and concisely so you can build around that plan.
Are you a g/w aggro deck? If so you probably want to top out your curve with Wurm (even that might be too high of a curve and then maybe top out with thragtusk), and include silverblade paladin. Are you a ramp deck that wants to get to the bombs and drop them on your opponents head as quickly as possible? If that's the case send the militants to your sideboard (to bring in against snappy control decks) and include arbor elf, thragtusk, and centaur healer (to give you enough time to actually GET to your bombs), and topping out the curve with angel of serenity. For ramp you'll also want to run a full 4 farseek.
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Mid-range 'Merica UWR
LOL Zombies GB
Wurmz Ramp GW
UD5, what, exactly, are you trying to accomplish with your deck? And im being serious. You need to be able to state your deck's objective clearly and concisely so you can build around that plan.
Are you a g/w aggro deck? If so you probably want to top out your curve with Wurm (even that might be too high of a curve and then maybe top out with thragtusk), and include silverblade paladin. Are you a ramp deck that wants to get to the bombs and drop them on your opponents head as quickly as possible? If that's the case send the militants to your sideboard (to bring in against snappy control decks) and include arbor elf, thragtusk, and centaur healer (to give you enough time to actually GET to your bombs), and topping out the curve with angel of serenity. For ramp you'll also want to run a full 4 farseek.
I wanna ramp to get out the Wurm and Angel as soon as possible, I went and drafted tonight and got some advice from some more seasoned players and they suggest I run 4 arbor elf 4 farseek 4 avacyn's pilgrim and maybe some borderland ranger. I'll probably also run loxodon smiter and oblivion ring. Looks like it'll be 4 elf and 4 pilgrim at the 1 drop... then maybe the centaur token at the 2 drop along with farseek, then loxodon smiter @ the 3 drop.. Thoughts..
I need at least 4 more cards for this build, and the Hunter isn't a lock, just something I thought might help me stall till I play my bombs, the Shield is to protect the Angel... Also, I have 2 Requiem Angel and 3 Sublime Archangel and 3 Thragtusk, though I'm not sure any of those spells fit the mold.. this new set makes my head spin, you shoulda seen my draft deck, what a disaster.
Great card.
States '09: 14th place. Aiming for better next year.
States '10: 12th place. Aiming for better next year.
Idaho State Champ: 2011
States '12: 5th place.
It puts enemies in such a ridiculous situation. It's lose/lose for them most of the time.
Because we care about facts.
If you're using it to cycle, removing it would give it value.
So, I preordered a full 4 playset for $7 a pop. They're up to $18 as of today on TCGplayer median price. They got in the mail yesterday for me, previous naysaying friends feel robbed right about now. Sure I'll gladly pay $30 (plus shipping) for 4 of these, instead of $80 for a playset.
EDIT: My jaw just hit the floor, checked price again, she's actually pushing $19.50 as of this afternoon.
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Yo dawg Frites Player, we herd you liked getting 1 for 3'd by Angel of Serenity, so we put some Angels in your Angel (Avacyn) so you can get chained while you get exiled. ANGELCEPTION.
I run a combo deck that's immune to these shenanigans and would quite pleased if my opponent was playing Angel since it can't beat my combo anyway. <3
She's nowhere near the second coming of anything. She's good, but doesn't provide near the same value Elesh Norn does when she hits the board. The only card that resembles a second coming is Deathrite Shaman which is the second coming of Noble Hierarch in Modern, and it's mindblowing that the price on that card isn't 20 bucks each.
Which they'll hit, trust me.
You're immune to damage? That's quite a feat.
Also, good thing there are 54 other cards in my deck.
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought we were discussing a newly released standard card, in the standard forums apparently, and the impact it would have on standard. And at the same CMC, similar power level, and similar massive ETB effect. Oh what's that? Angel of Serenity is winning games left and right and warping the format and settling up at 19-20 already? Pic related, it's my ramp deck. Oh, I heard she's good in standard white based control as a finisher too.
Yo dawg Frites Player, we herd you liked getting 1 for 3'd by Angel of Serenity, so we put some Angels in your Angel (Avacyn) so you can get chained while you get exiled. ANGELCEPTION.
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Yo dawg Frites Player, we herd you liked getting 1 for 3'd by Angel of Serenity, so we put some Angels in your Angel (Avacyn) so you can get chained while you get exiled. ANGELCEPTION.
I'm with Cassial. But, the Angel is more of a 2nd coming Primeval Titan, imo ;)... it's just soooo easy to ramp into her WITHOUT Unburial Rites. And if you happen to hit two Angels... the "lock" is nearly impossible to beat without straight GY hate.
My opponents can never really stop the angel combo because I often target GoST or Snapcaster with it and my opponent gets more hesitant to blow her up.
You play 6 Angel of Serenity?
Strong.
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I math good!
But yeah, I've been testing this deck against unreasonably large amounts of grave hate and haven't been losing. I can't imagine anything hosing AoS specifically that the rest of the deck can't play around if it has to.
Yeah... until people start playing Slaughter Games in boards like they should be already because people don't have varied enough win cons in control decks.
Unfortunately, Even if they have varied their win-cons Slaughter Games still hurts. This card alone really threatens the potential dominance of Entreat the Angels and Angel of Serenity style decks. I'm very excited to see how we (UWx) combat the Games.
hatred
I will flay the skin from your flesh,
the flesh from your bones,
and scrape your bones dry,
and still you will not have suffered enough!
Quote the Ryxsyn;
NeVeRMoRe!
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain!
-Harvey Dent
Bant Control can give up sideboard answers to other decks to board into Midrange I guess. But that only seems like a good plan when the metagame has become static.
Thanks to Gabgabdevo for the awesome sig image!
I'm always looking for foil Madcap Skills and Ghitu Fire-Eater, [trade thread link forthcoming]
I'm new to competitive standard and would appreciate any advice. My main issue is the curve of the deck, peep it out..
4 x Avacyn's Pilgrim
4 x Call of the Conclave
2 x Farseek
4 x Fiend Hunter
2 x Borderland Ranger
4 x Loxodn Smiter
4 x Oblivion Ring
4 x Faith's Shield
2 x Armada Wurm
2 x Angel of Serenity
20 x basic lands
4 x sunpetal grove
Possible inclusions include Selesnya Charm Rancor and Thragtusk
Please let me know what you think, it's a crime to have this bomb rotting in my binder. Thanks
Are you a g/w aggro deck? If so you probably want to top out your curve with Wurm (even that might be too high of a curve and then maybe top out with thragtusk), and include silverblade paladin. Are you a ramp deck that wants to get to the bombs and drop them on your opponents head as quickly as possible? If that's the case send the militants to your sideboard (to bring in against snappy control decks) and include arbor elf, thragtusk, and centaur healer (to give you enough time to actually GET to your bombs), and topping out the curve with angel of serenity. For ramp you'll also want to run a full 4 farseek.
Mid-range 'Merica UWR
LOL Zombies GB
Wurmz Ramp GW
I wanna ramp to get out the Wurm and Angel as soon as possible, I went and drafted tonight and got some advice from some more seasoned players and they suggest I run 4 arbor elf 4 farseek 4 avacyn's pilgrim and maybe some borderland ranger. I'll probably also run loxodon smiter and oblivion ring. Looks like it'll be 4 elf and 4 pilgrim at the 1 drop... then maybe the centaur token at the 2 drop along with farseek, then loxodon smiter @ the 3 drop.. Thoughts..
4 x Arbor Elf
4 x Call of the Conclave
4 x Farseek
4 x Loxodon Smiter
4 x Fiend Hunter
2 x Armada Wurm
2 x Angel of Serenity
4 x Faith's Shield
4 x Oblivion Ring
I need at least 4 more cards for this build, and the Hunter isn't a lock, just something I thought might help me stall till I play my bombs, the Shield is to protect the Angel... Also, I have 2 Requiem Angel and 3 Sublime Archangel and 3 Thragtusk, though I'm not sure any of those spells fit the mold.. this new set makes my head spin, you shoulda seen my draft deck, what a disaster.