I've been having a lot of trouble against mono black and variants lately. They just seem so relentless and have a ton of removal. What do you guys suggest against them?
As an MBI player, my two biggest fears when playing against U/W is countermagic and Vapor Snags. This matchup is all about setting yourself up in your opening hand to avoid early death.
If they resolve Phyrexian Crusader against you, you pretty much scoop unless you have a buttload of bounce spells in hand.
Ive been playing white as a base color for a while. I can tell you mirran crusader is a beast, just need to watch out for Black Sun's Zenith and Geth's Verdict Dismember and o ring work well here. Faith's Shield might not be a bad idea either if your meta supports it's use in the sideboard
Ive been playing white as a base color for a while. I can tell you mirran crusader is a beast, just need to watch out for Black Sun's Zenith and Geth's Verdict Dismember and o ring work well here. Faith's Shield might not be a bad idea either if your meta supports it's use in the sideboard
Just as a side note, Oblivion Ring doesn't hit Phyrexian Crusader, so your only O.Ring target is Lashwrithe or hope they play Skithiryx and O.Ring him.
Just as a side note, Oblivion Ring doesn't hit Phyrexian Crusader, so your only O.Ring target is Lashwrithe or hope they play Skithiryx and O.Ring him.
Yeah, but that lashwrithe can be a 1 or 2 turn clock! Vicious
Edit: Revoke Existence would work as well if thats in your sideboard. Dunno if i would side mine in though. Dismember works well as instant speed
Yeah, but that lashwrithe can be a 1 or 2 turn clock! Vicious
Edit: Revoke Existence would work as well if thats in your sideboard. Dunno if i would side mine in though. Dismember works well as instant speed
Well your best play against a Lashwrithe'd Crusader is to Vapor Snag it at the start of the attack step and then try and counter the thing the following turn, but that's a perfect world viewpoint.
Dismember is the best card you can play against them since it's basically a free roll.
I think i agree with this. I'm more aggressive and dont run leak in favor of thalia, nor do i run vapor snag. So yeah, if you're more aggro, that dismember is good for phyrexian crusader or anything in respond to the equiping of lashwrithe like a flyer. Also inkmoth. Instant speed ftw.
Dismember is the best card you can play against them since it's basically a free roll.
Agreed. When I play vs. MBI (which is somewhat rampant at my LGS; probably 10%), I have 3 Dismember in the SB, Mirran Crusader in the MB, and 2 Sword of Feast and Famine in the SB.
However, if they draw the nuts, they can definitely win anyway. Phrexian Crusader, Lashwrithe, discard, and creature removal can be a beating.
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I don't have too much trouble against infect. Dismembers for the crusader, perhaps a couple DOJ if on the play crusader and giest are pretty removal proof. You need to extend a little more than you would against Slagstorm/DOJ decks because the sac effects can be brutal.
How does everyone feel about phantasmal image against infect? It's good in other match ups as well. It deals with skittles, can copy then block crusader, and can copy our beaters.
How does everyone feel about phantasmal image against infect? It's good in other match ups as well. It deals with skittles, can copy then block crusader, and can copy our beaters.
What would you side out for it? And is it worth a spot in the sideboard? I think i'd rather have the dismember for them. Instant removal.
O ring is nice for lashwrithe. The deck is tight. Image is nice but in other matchups... its another beater or a removal for legends, which either dismember or o ring can do. Dont need more beaters either. Dismember just seems more versatile considering all of the matchups.
O ring is nice for lashwrithe. The deck is tight. Image is nice but in other matchups... its another beater or a removal for legends, which either dismember or o ring can do. Dont need more beaters either. Dismember just seems more versatile considering all of the matchups.
Dismember is only really good against infect where we don't have to worry about our health.
Dismember is only really good against infect where we don't have to worry about our health.
I also think it's effective against wolf run, I'm not so concerned with my health because if they get a titan and have the ramp available.. it'll be over quick enough as it is. I would probably also use it against an early delver, 4 life in one turn is better than say 9 over 3 turns. I also dont have motarpod for inkmonth anymore..
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If they resolve Phyrexian Crusader against you, you pretty much scoop unless you have a buttload of bounce spells in hand.
Mirran Crusader and Sword of War and Peace can win you that race, but it is close. And if the Infect player drops Lashwrithe next turn, you will even lose THAT race.
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Just as a side note, Oblivion Ring doesn't hit Phyrexian Crusader, so your only O.Ring target is Lashwrithe or hope they play Skithiryx and O.Ring him.
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Yeah, but that lashwrithe can be a 1 or 2 turn clock! Vicious
Edit: Revoke Existence would work as well if thats in your sideboard. Dunno if i would side mine in though. Dismember works well as instant speed
Well your best play against a Lashwrithe'd Crusader is to Vapor Snag it at the start of the attack step and then try and counter the thing the following turn, but that's a perfect world viewpoint.
Because we care about facts.
I think i agree with this. I'm more aggressive and dont run leak in favor of thalia, nor do i run vapor snag. So yeah, if you're more aggro, that dismember is good for phyrexian crusader or anything in respond to the equiping of lashwrithe like a flyer. Also inkmoth. Instant speed ftw.
Agreed. When I play vs. MBI (which is somewhat rampant at my LGS; probably 10%), I have 3 Dismember in the SB, Mirran Crusader in the MB, and 2 Sword of Feast and Famine in the SB.
However, if they draw the nuts, they can definitely win anyway. Phrexian Crusader, Lashwrithe, discard, and creature removal can be a beating.
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What would you side out for it? And is it worth a spot in the sideboard? I think i'd rather have the dismember for them. Instant removal.
not sure yet, just brain storming as it would improve more than one match up. I would probably drop O-ring for it.
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Dismember is only really good against infect where we don't have to worry about our health.
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I also think it's effective against wolf run, I'm not so concerned with my health because if they get a titan and have the ramp available.. it'll be over quick enough as it is. I would probably also use it against an early delver, 4 life in one turn is better than say 9 over 3 turns. I also dont have motarpod for inkmonth anymore..