Testing this i think a more contolling version is prolbably better for an aggro heavy meta such as mine is so i think ive got my list right will see how it goes this fnm.
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I was going for a more UWb, with black serving as just a splash color.
This might change once I obtain a couple of liliana of the veils, moving for more UBw, with white splash for Day of Judgement and Oblivion Ring.
I feel pretty good about the creature composition, but I feel like I need at least 1 more land to smooth things out more; however I have no idea what to take out.
Im piloting this version and since i tried Rune-Scarred Demon i become a fan :D, with this list i've won last two FNM at my local store felling that my worst match is vs mono red
I haven't played a Standard Constructed event since Game Day for Scars of Mirrodin. I've been messing around with this deck online, slightly different build but the core is the same, and I want to play this when I get back into playing Standard which will be this weekend.
Either the Demon or the Sphinx will be replaced by a Frost Titan whenever I manage to get one. Online, Sever the Bloodline has been a fantastic sleeper. No one sees it coming and it just ruins some decks. I don't know if that will hold but I think it deserves a chance.
My sideboard isn't finished (clearly) but I'm having trouble figuring out what should be in there. I was thinking of a couple adding a couple Dissipates but that still leaves me 4 cards short.
Solar Flare is by far one of the most frustrating and most amazing decks that I have ever played and I continue to try and fine tune mine on a regular basis. Here is my newest build and play testing seems to be holding fairly strong. The one thing you'll notice is the 5 Planeswalkers I have in my build - I'll explain it through PM if anyone would like to know.
I have been trying for so long to find a list that is playable at my fnm which is rather strong. however most of the lists that I see now just cant compete with the aggressiveness of the meta. I feel as though Sun Titan is to cute to work as our primary function. Also while liliana has fallen out of favor I feel that she is just to good to cut. My current list has 3 Lili and 2 Sun Titan (no phantasmal) no counters in the main (7 out of the board for the 3 people who play WRR).
My build is pretty unique compared to most, as I opt for no counterspells main and a heavier removal suite, along with a more toolbox approach with my creatures. I also don't like the Scars lands, so I don't run them.
FTR, I have tested Sorin a bit, and though he's pretty good, I find it's just because he's a solid planeswalker, not because of any interaction with Flare (though the tokens can be nasty with Elesh on board).
There's a lot of control in my meta(UW, various Esper lists) so Jin-Gitaxias is really good. I have never lost a game then i boarded him in and he lived a turn. Grave Titan comes in against aggressive blue decks because hes very good againt Vapor Snag.
Does that high creature count never give you problems? I feel like I get too many bombs too early when I'm running 6 creatures, and your mana curve is even higher.
Does that high creature count never give you problems? I feel like I get too many bombs too early when I'm running 6 creatures, and your mana curve is even higher.
The hands can get a little clunky at times, but not very often. I mull hands that have two sevens almost instantly, and discarding creatures for Unburial Rites helps make them less clunky.
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3 Dissipate
4 Mana Leak
Removal
3 Doom Blade
1 Oblivion Ring
3 Day of Judgment
Incremental Advantage
3 Forbidden Alchemy
3 Unburial Rites
2 Think Twice
3 Liliana of the Veil
2 Snapcaster Mage
Fat
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Phantasmal Image
1 Grave Titan
2 Consecrated Sphinx
3 Island
3 Swamp
3 Plains
3 Glacial Fortress
1 Drowned Catacombs
4 Darkslick Shores
4 Isolated Chapel
2 Ghost Quarter
4 Seachrome Coast
1 Day of Judgment
1 Dissipate
3 Mirran Crusader
2 Nephalia Drownyard
2 Jace, Memory Adept
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Timely Reinforcements
2 Wring Flesh
4 plains
4 islands
1 swamp
4 isolated chapel
3 darkslick shores
3 seachrome coast
3 glacial fortress
3 drowned catacomb
2 ghost quarters
Creatures
3 snapcaster mage
2 consecrated sphinx
1 grave titan
1 elesh norn, grand cenobite
1 wurmcoil engine
1 liliana of the veil
1 gideon jura
spells
1 unburial rites
1 white sun's zenith
3 day of judgment
2 oblivion ring
1 doomblade
1 go for the throat
1 dismember
3 dissapate
4 mana leak
3 ponder
4 forbidden alchemy
3 surgical extraction
2 steel sabotage
1 white sun's zenith
2 rachet bomb
2 celetial purge
4 timely reinforcements
1 day of judgment
Testing this i think a more contolling version is prolbably better for an aggro heavy meta such as mine is so i think ive got my list right will see how it goes this fnm.
1 Sun Titan
1 Grave Titan
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Artifact Creatures (5)
2 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Wurmcoil Engine
Planeswalkers (1)
1 Gideon Jura
Artifacts (3)
1 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Pristine Talisman
Enchantments (3)
3 Oblivion Ring
Instants (14)
1 Tragic Slip
2 Think Twice
2 Doom Blade
4 Mana Leak
1 Dissipate
4 Forbidden Alchemy
3 Day of Judgement
2 Unburial Rites
Lands (25)
3 Island
3 Plains
2 Swamp
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Drowned Catacomb
2 Isolated Chapel
4 Seachrome Coast
2 Ghost Quarter
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Nephalia Drownyard
2 Go for the Throat
1 Dismember
1 Silverchase Fox
2 Revoke Existence
2 Celestial Purge
3 Flashfreeze
2 Dissipate
1 Day of Judgement
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3 Snapcaster Mage
3 Fiend Hunter
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Sun Titan
2 Wurmcoil Engine
Spells: 24
4 Ponder
4 Forbidden Alchemy
3 Mana Leak
3 Dissipate
2 Go for the Throat
2 Doom Blade
2 Day of Judgment
3 Oblivion Ring
1 Unburial Rites
2 Swamp
6 Plains
4 Island
4 Seachrome Coast
4 Glacial Fortress
3 Isolated Chapel
3 Drowned Catacomb
I was going for a more UWb, with black serving as just a splash color.
This might change once I obtain a couple of liliana of the veils, moving for more UBw, with white splash for Day of Judgement and Oblivion Ring.
3 Day of Judgment
2 Gitaxian Probe
2 Unburial Rites
Enchantment(3):
3 Oblivion Ring
Lands(24):
5 Island
5 Plains
5 Swamp
4 Glacial Fortress
3 Drowned Catacomb
2 Isolated Chapel
3 Think Twice
3 Mana Leak
2 Dissipate
2 Doom Blade
1 Go for the Throat
4 Forbidden Alchemy
Creatures(11):
2 Sun Titan
3 Mirran Crusader
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
2 Blade Splicer
3 Phantasmal Image
1 Doom Blade
3 Ghost Quarter
1 Gitaxian Probe
2 Go for the Throat
1 Grave Titan
1 Plains
2 Ratchet Bomb
1 Swamp
3 Timely Reinforcements
I feel pretty good about the creature composition, but I feel like I need at least 1 more land to smooth things out more; however I have no idea what to take out.
3 Drowned Catacombs
3 Isolated Chapel
3 Glacial Fortress
3 Island
3 Plains
3 Swamp
2 Seachrome Coast
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Nephalia Drownyard
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Grave Titan
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
2 Sun Titan
4 Forbidden Alchemy
3 Think Twice
1 Doom Blade
3 Tragic Slip
2 Day of Judgment
2 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Unburial Rites
2 Oblivion Ring
4 Mana Leak
2 Dissipate
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Celestial Purge
3 Timely Reinforcements
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Tribute to Hunger
2 Divine Offering
2 Phantasmal Image
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Negate
3x Blade Splicer
2x Grave Titan
1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
2x Liliana of the Veil
4x Ponder
4x Doom Blade
4x Mana Leak
2x Oblivion Ring
2x Dissipate
4x Forbidden Alchemy
2x Day of Judgment
1x Unburial Rites
4x Drowned Catacomb
3x Isolated Chapel
3x Darkslick Shores
2x Seachrome Coast
1x Ghost Quarter
4x Island
3x Plains
3x Swamp
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
2 Blade Splicer
2 Phantasmal Image
2 Sun Titan
3 Snapcaster Mage
Enchantments [2]
2 Oblivion Ring
Instants [14]
1 Tribute to Hunger
1 Victim of Night
1 Dissipate
2 Doom Blade
2 Think Twice
3 Mana Leak
4 Forbidden Alchemy
2 Lilliana of the Veil
Sorceries [5]
2 Unburial Rites
3 Day of Judgment
Lands [26]
1 Drowned Catacomb
2 Island
2 Seachrome Coast
3 Ghost Quarter
3 Plains
3 Swamp
4 Darkslick Shores
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Isolated Chapel
L1 Judge
3x Oblivion Ring
Instant (11):
4x Mana Leak
2x Doom Blade
1x Go for the Throat
4x Forbidden Alchemy
Land (26):
6x Island
5x Plains
4x Swamp
2x Ghost Quarter
4x Glacial Fortress
3x Drowned Catacomb
2x Isolated Chapel
3x Ponder
3x Day of Judgment
1x Gitaxian Probe
2x Timely Reinforcements
2x Unburial Rites
Creature (10):
2x Sun Titan
1x Wurmcoil Engine
1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
2x Blade Splicer
2x Spellskite
2x Phantasmal Image
2x Flashfreeze
2x Dissipate
2x Archon of Justice
1x Doom Blade
1x Grave Titan
3x Mirran Crusader
2x Go for the Throat
1x Phantasmal Image
1x Timely Reinforcements
5x Island
5x Plains
3x Swamp
1x Ghost Quarter
4x Isolated Chapel
3x Glacial Fortress
3x Drowned Catacomb
2x Seachrome Coast
Board Control - 16
2x Mana Leak
3x Dissipate
4x Doom Blade
3x Oblivion Ring
1x Arrest
3x Day of Judgment
3x Sun Titan
1x Grave Titan
1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
2x Snapcaster Mage
2x Phantasmal Image
2x Spellskite
Grave/Library Control - 9
4x Forbidden Alchemy
3x Unburial Rites
1x Day of Judgment
3x Revoke Existence
3x Nihil Spellbomb
2x Cathedral Membrane
3x Timely Reinforcements
2x Nevermore
Sideboard and card quantities are always in flux.
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4 Isolated Chapel
4 Drowned Catacomb
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Swamp
4 Plains
3 Island
Creatures
2 Snapcaster Mage
2 Sun Titan
2 Phantasmal Image
1 Grave Titan
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Rune-scarred Demon
4 Forbidden Alchemy
4 Mana Leak
3 Liliana of the Veil
3 Timely Reinforcements
3 Unburial Rites
3 Day of Judgment
3 Think Twice
2 Oblivion Ring
1 Doom Blade
1 Dismember
1 Dissipate
1 Ratchet Bomb
4 Negate
3 Memoricide
3 Spellskite
3 Ghost Quarter
2 Stony Silence
3x Oblivion Ring
5x Plains
3x Swamp
1x Ghost Quarter
2x Solemn Simulacrum
4x Mana Leak
2x Dissipate
4x Glacial Fortress
4x Drowned Catacomb
2x Doom Blade
2x Day of Judgment
2x Sun Titan
1x Grave Titan
1x Wurmcoil Engine
1x Mimic Vat
1x Go for the Throat
1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1x Jace, Memory Adept
2x Phantasmal Image
1x Rune-Scarred Demon
4x Isolated Chapel
3x Snapcaster Mage
4x Forbidden Alchemy
2x Unburial Rites
2x Divine Offering
2x Celestial Purge
1x Day of Judgment
2x Ratchet Bomb
2x Nihil Spellbomb
1x Karn Liberated
2x Spellskite
3x Timely Reinforcements
Im piloting this version and since i tried Rune-Scarred Demon i become a fan :D, with this list i've won last two FNM at my local store felling that my worst match is vs mono red
2 Isolated Chapel
3 Drowned Catacombs
3 Glacial Fortress
4 Ghost Quarter
6 Swamp
2 Plains
3 Island
Creatures:
4 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Grave Titan
2 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Sphinx of Uthuun
3 Oblivion Ring
Instants:
1 Go for the Throat
3 Doom Blade
4 Mana Leak
4 Forbidden Alchemy
Sorcery:
4 Ponder
3 Day of Judgement
2 Sever the Bloodline
3 Unburial Rites
2 Go for the Throat
3 Spellskite
1 Oblivion Ring
3 Memoricide
I haven't played a Standard Constructed event since Game Day for Scars of Mirrodin. I've been messing around with this deck online, slightly different build but the core is the same, and I want to play this when I get back into playing Standard which will be this weekend.
Either the Demon or the Sphinx will be replaced by a Frost Titan whenever I manage to get one. Online, Sever the Bloodline has been a fantastic sleeper. No one sees it coming and it just ruins some decks. I don't know if that will hold but I think it deserves a chance.
My sideboard isn't finished (clearly) but I'm having trouble figuring out what should be in there. I was thinking of a couple adding a couple Dissipates but that still leaves me 4 cards short.
3 Island
3 Swamp
3 Plains
2 Seachrome Coast
3 Drowned Catacomb
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Isolated Chapel
2 Darkslick Shores
2 Ghost Quarter
CREATURES
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
2 Snapcaster Mage
2 Phantasmal Image
2 Grave Titan
2 Sun Titan
4 Forbidden Alchemy
4 Mana Leak
2 Dissipate
2 Unburial Rites
3 Doom Blade
2 Oblivion Ring
3 Day of Judgement
PLANESWALKERS
3 Liliana of the Veil
2 Gideon Jura
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Ratchet Bomb
3 Timely Reinforcements
1 Day of Judgement
2 Celestial Purge
3 Flashfreeze
2 Oblivion Ring
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2 Phantasmal Image
3 Blade Splicer
1 Geist of Saint Traft
1 Grave Titan
3 Sun Titan
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Spells: 24
1 Dead Weight
3 Ponder
1 Traveler's Amulet
4 Mana Leak
1 Pacifism
4 Forbidden Alchemy
2 Liliana of the Veil
3 Oblivion Ring
3 Day of Judgment
2 Unburial Rites
4 Drowned Catacomb
4 Glacial Fortress
6 Island
4 Isolated Chapel
5 Plains
1 Seachrome Coast
2 Swamp
2 Grave Titan
1 Day of Judgment
4 Timely Reinforcements
3 Dissipate
1 Oblivion Ring
3 Celestial Purge
1 Unburial Rites
I went for a more tap-out, aggressive style of the flare. Lots of Sun Titan abuse.
2 Blade Splicer
2 Sun Titan
2 Consecrated Sphinx
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Sphinx of Uthuun
4 Mana Leak
2 Think Twice
3 Doom Blade
2 Dissipate
4 Forbidden Alchemy
3 Day of Judgment
2 Unburial Rites
2 Liliana of the Veil
4 Glacial Fortress
1 Seachrome Coast
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Drowned Catacomb
2 Darkslick Shores
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Nephalia Drownyard
2 Plains
3 Island
4 Swamp
2 Spellskite
2 Flashfreeze
1 Dissipate
2 Dismember
4 Timely Reinforcements
1 Day of Judgment
1 Unburial Rites
2 Gideon Jura
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here's my list and has done good against aggro.
1 Phantasmal Image
3 snapcaster mage
1 Consecrated Sphinx
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 massacre wurm
2 sun titan
1 Olivia Voldaren
4 Mana Leak
3 deperate ravings
2 Doom Blade
1 Dissipate
4 Forbidden Alchemy
2 galvic blast
2 Unburial Rites
1 Oblivion Ring
3 Liliana of the Veil
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Isolated Chapel
4 sullfer falls
4 Darkslick Shores
1 Ghost Quarter
2 blackcleave cliffs
1 clifftop retreat
2 Plains
3 Island
1 Consecrated Sphinx
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Grave Titan
1 Massacre Wurm
1 Phantasmal Image
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Sun Titan
1 Wurmcoil Engine
3 Liliana of the Veil
Spells (20)
4 Day of Judgment
4 Doom Blade
4 Forbidden Alchemy
4 Oblivion Ring
4 Unburial Rites
Lands (26)
4 Drowned Catacomb
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Island
4 Isolated Chapel
5 Plains
5 Swamp
FTR, I have tested Sorin a bit, and though he's pretty good, I find it's just because he's a solid planeswalker, not because of any interaction with Flare (though the tokens can be nasty with Elesh on board).
2 olivia volaren
2 sun titan
2 snapcaster mage
1 grave titan
1 massacre wurm
spells
1 devil's play
3 mana leak
1 dissipate
2 doom blade
1 go for the throat
4 forbidden alchemy
1 whipflare
2 black sun's zenith
2 unburial rites
1 batterskull
2 ratchet bomb
2 pristine talisman
2 curse of death's hold
planeswalker
3 liliana of the veil
lands
3 blackcleave cliffs
4 darkslick shores
2 glacial fortress
4 sulfur falls
3 swamo
3 island
2 shimmering grotto
2 isolated chapel
2 drowned catacombs
3 Drowned Catacomb
2 Ghost Quarter
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Island
4 Isolated Chapel
4 Plains
2 Seachrome Coast
1 Swamp
Creatures 6
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
2 Phantasmal Image
3 Sun Titan
Other spells 28
1 Batterskull
3 Day of Judgment
1 Dissipate
3 Doom Blade
4 Forbidden Alchemy
2 Mana Leak
1 Negate
3 Oblivion Ring
1 Pacifism
3 Pristine Talisman
3 Think Twice
1 Timely Reinforcements
1 Unburial Rites
1 White Sun's Zenith
2 Curse of Death's Hold
2 Dissipate
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
2 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Oblivion Ring
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Revoke Existence
2 Timely Reinforcements
1 White Sun's Zenith
3 Sun Titan
2 Phantasmal Image
1 Drogskol Reaver
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Spells
4 Mana Leak
2 Dissipate
3 Think Twice
4 Forbidden Alchemy
3 Oblivion Ring
3 Day of Judgment
2 Doom Blade
2 Liliana of the Veil
1 Unburial Rites
3 Pristine Talisman
4 Glacial Fortress
2 Seachrome Coast
3 Drowned Catacomb
2 Darkslick Shores
3 Isolated Chapel
5 Island
3 Plains
2 Swamp
1 Ghost Quarter
3 Timely Reinforcement
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Dissipate
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Karn Liberated
1 Snapcaster Mage
1 White Sun's Zenith
1 Blue Sun's Zenith
2 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Day of Judgment
It was, so I changed it, drastically. Updated:
3 Sun Titan
2 Phantasmal Image
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Spells
4 Mana Leak
4 Day of Judgment
3 Think Twice
4 Forbidden Alchemy
3 Oblivion Ring
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Doom Blade
1 Unburial Rites
1 Dead Weight
1 Nihil Spellbomb
3 Pristine Talisman
4 Glacial Fortress
3 Seachrome Coast
3 Drowned Catacomb
1 Darkslick Shores
3 Isolated Chapel
5 Island
4 Plains
3 Ghost Quarter
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
2 Timely Reinforcement / Lingering Souls
3 Nephalia Drownyard
4 Dissipate
1 Blue Sun's Zenith
1 White Sun's Zenith
1 Consecrated Sphinx
1 Karn Liberated
1 Snapcaster Mage
Thoughts?
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
2 Sun Titan
2 Phantasmal Image
3 Snapcaster Mage
Enchantments
2 Oblivion Ring
1 Pacifism
Spells
4 Mana Leak
2 Dissipate
4 Forbidden Alchemy
2 Think Twice
3 Day of Judgement
2 Doom Blade
1 Dismember
2 Unburial Rites
1 Gideon Jura
1 Karn Liberated
Land
3 Seachrome Coast
3 Darkslick Shores
3 Glacial Fortress
4 Isolated Chapel
1 Drowned Catacomb
2 Ghost Quarter
5 Island
3 Swamp
2 Plains
2 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Spellskite
1 Snapcaster Mage
1 Phantasmal Image
2 Go for the Throat
2 Negate
2 Timely Reinforcements
1 Day of Judgement
1 Gideon Jura
1 Grave Titan
1 Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
There's a lot of control in my meta(UW, various Esper lists) so Jin-Gitaxias is really good. I have never lost a game then i boarded him in and he lived a turn. Grave Titan comes in against aggressive blue decks because hes very good againt Vapor Snag.
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GRGR TronRG
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Does that high creature count never give you problems? I feel like I get too many bombs too early when I'm running 6 creatures, and your mana curve is even higher.
The hands can get a little clunky at times, but not very often. I mull hands that have two sevens almost instantly, and discarding creatures for Unburial Rites helps make them less clunky.
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GWGW AggroWG
UWBEsper ControlBWU
Modern
GRWUKiki PodUWRG
RGZooGR
BRGJundGRB
GRGR TronRG
EDH
RUGAnimar, Soul of Elements ComboGUR
GWBTeneb, The Harvester ReanimatorBWG