Quote from WacKy ZacKyI got 4x Delver in the board for the mirror match and I tried it against Wolfrun and it just doesn't work better than having 6 drops that can own the board.
Delver T1 Flip on upkeep VS Thrun T3(No Sac Outlets to topdeck)
Lets say the thrun was off a Rampant growth and you wring fleshed the Bop
T2: You-20 Wolf-17
T3: You-20 Wolf- 14
T4: You-16 Wolf-11
T5: You-12 Wolf-8
T6: You-8 Wolf-5
Its about even and depends on who goes first and with Opp having more board threats to deal with relying on drawing 2+ Delver is foolish.
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Quote from Publicinspace_EricI run four Delver of Secrets in the sideboard only for the mirror match when i side out 4 black sun's zenith and two tribute to hunger, then i put in 2 frost titans and the 4 Delver of Secrets
Quote from BaalThanks for clarification.
however in my builds i run 22 to 25 cards that can flip them. Aren't them enough?
Quote from AreysYou run 4 Black Sun's Zenith main board??? Wow must have a lot of GW tokens in your meta...
Quote from Dromar the BanisherAnyways, I think calling Delver a bad card (or one of the worst cards in Innistrad) is quite wrong. Maybe this isn't the right deck and maybe Standard isn't the right format for it but the card has already put up results in Legacy so it clearly has potential. In anycase it's infinitely more playable than a lot of the limited garbage in Innistrad if for nothing more than the mise factor of flipping a turn 1 Delver on your first opportunity.
Quote from OwNoZzI don't think Delver of secrets would really shine in standard.
Delver needs to be built around and besides Ponder there isn't much cards to flip him effectively.
However, in Legacy he's really awesome in Canadian threshold with their 8 cantrips (4 BS, 4 Ponder), 18 lands and 30+ Sorceries/Instants.
In conclusion if you want to make it work you shouldn't try to fit Delver in an existing archetype, but in whole new one. The problem's that, imho, you don't have the tools in the current standard.
Quote from PuddlejumperI don't anyone's really explored the potential of monowhite Jund, but it could be amazing.
Quote from BaalMy point, plus if he doesn't transform is a chump blocker that can give you the 1 more turn you need to take board control. and i'm glad to see that my point is shared into winning decks
Quote from slipknot72102doom blade would like to have a word with your point.
Just because something sees play in a randomly daily event means nothing. That burn deck obviously wins because of the burn. That illusion deck obviously needed a 1 drop.
the card itself really isn't worth the card board its printed on...does it serve a purpose? Sure its a blue 1 drop that might not be a 1/1. I would not put it in a list and expect to win a PTQ or GP though.